I've decided against the fat transfer because I wasn't aware I wouldn't be allowed to exercise for a few months and I *have* to exercise so now I think I will go to ASPS like you suggested Miss Orange, and source my own steroids. I did see this promotion on allaboutmei about DM clinic that does SMAS lift. It's cheaper than ASPS but I know nothing about them!
How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.
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Why do Chinese sites show such dramatic changes with facelifting and UK sites show such poor results?
When I envision facelifting I expect the results to be like this Koln doctor achieved temporarily with threads, fillers and botox, but expect permanent results with an actual facelift. But in reality I am seeing dreadful deep plane facelift results both in the US and UK. To me when a male plastic surgeon charges £20k up to £70k for poor mediocre results, it feels like a scam taking advantage of vulnerable women who may be going through a painful divorce or who have suffered depression from the sudden onset of menoface and are prepared to sell their car and house to fund what they may be sold as a facelift that will last 15 years so is worth the investment and transform them back to their youthful face. I have seen the angry video rants when their facelift falls at 7 months and listened to another share how the majority of ladies in Beverly Hills walk around with fallen facelifts.
Perhaps the answer is fat graft + smas FL +postop steroids as a permanent version of fillers + threads. The majority of ladies in the US and UK are solely relying on a facelift without replacing volume loss. This may account for why my smas FL result is better than most, even those getting a smas facelift. So the order again is first op: upper bleph with lid fat graft, 2nd op: lip lift, 3rd & 4th ops: full face fat graft + top up and finally 5th op: smas FL or FL/NL + postop steroids. Ladies who try to get everything done in one op risk mega swelling, facial distortion and unpredictable healing and results.
Perhaps the answer is fat graft + smas FL +postop steroids as a permanent version of fillers + threads. The majority of ladies in the US and UK are solely relying on a facelift without replacing volume loss. This may account for why my smas FL result is better than most, even those getting a smas facelift. So the order again is first op: upper bleph with lid fat graft, 2nd op: lip lift, 3rd & 4th ops: full face fat graft + top up and finally 5th op: smas FL or FL/NL + postop steroids. Ladies who try to get everything done in one op risk mega swelling, facial distortion and unpredictable healing and results.
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In my 40s prior to menoface, I relied on botox and dermal fillers much like the Koln doctor in my post above. Here is what can be achieved with just botox, fillers and brow microblading, until you reach menoface and require drastic surgical interventions to combat aging at triple the speed. I had more chin back then before I had it shaved a cm off.
Unbeknownst to me at the time this is the V line look craved in Korea and created by cutting the sides of the mandible and adding and fixating bone with titanium screws to the chin to make it more pointy. I had a natural v line! I hated it as in the UK everyone had a square jaw! lol. Shame I got it shaved down at age 49. I needed that chin bone now with aging facial bone loss!
My nose looked better at 45 but the tip rhino was 15 years old by age 49 so needed revision as the structure was starting to collapse. My nose is now too short but I don't want to risk a 4th rhino and end up with a very short contracted nose. I learned that each time you get rhino the stability of your nose weakens.
Unbeknownst to me at the time this is the V line look craved in Korea and created by cutting the sides of the mandible and adding and fixating bone with titanium screws to the chin to make it more pointy. I had a natural v line! I hated it as in the UK everyone had a square jaw! lol. Shame I got it shaved down at age 49. I needed that chin bone now with aging facial bone loss!
My nose looked better at 45 but the tip rhino was 15 years old by age 49 so needed revision as the structure was starting to collapse. My nose is now too short but I don't want to risk a 4th rhino and end up with a very short contracted nose. I learned that each time you get rhino the stability of your nose weakens.
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@MissOrange , what do you think of doing it the other way around, ie. have an Smas FL first (with steroids ofc, haha) and then a fat graft? I really hate my sagging jowls and would like to get them fixed asap.
Knowing that neck lifts fail over time, I am fortunate with Nick Rhodes' VR smas FL I got my class 2 neck sorted to class 1 too! Already tpfers have booked his bargain £7995 smas FL under GA for June and Sept. He is able to do more under GA. Although mine was under local.
'The SMAS extends over the cheek, inserting at the melolabial crease, and is continuous with the platysma inferiorly.' Wow! This means pulling the smas vertically upwards improves the neck as it pulls up the platysma muscle in the neck too as it is all connected!!!
Yesterday I met a lady who has had 2 full neck lifts with platsymaplasty a year apart and both have failed! This confirms Marando saying neck lifts fail over time! I have compiled a collage of neck fails you can request to see by dm. I would have to have a truly bad neck at least class 4 for me to embark on a cycle of neck lifts.
Here are my pics from yesterday (top 2) vs my 4 ugly meno-neck before pics.
'The SMAS extends over the cheek, inserting at the melolabial crease, and is continuous with the platysma inferiorly.' Wow! This means pulling the smas vertically upwards improves the neck as it pulls up the platysma muscle in the neck too as it is all connected!!!
Yesterday I met a lady who has had 2 full neck lifts with platsymaplasty a year apart and both have failed! This confirms Marando saying neck lifts fail over time! I have compiled a collage of neck fails you can request to see by dm. I would have to have a truly bad neck at least class 4 for me to embark on a cycle of neck lifts.
Here are my pics from yesterday (top 2) vs my 4 ugly meno-neck before pics.
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If you are feeling sorry for yourself in your 50s, just know that celebs face the same aging problems. Here 59 yo Sandra Bullock is consulting a surgeon who charges $50k-$100k for a DP FL. At least you know that smas trumps DP! And you can get one for only £7995!
Please how can I contact you I have dm your Instagram you have so much info and I need help
Hi @nancyshell, I do not do consultations or make personal recommendations. The surgeons I used to make myself look younger are mentioned in this thread along with the price I paid each surgeon.
Now that my hair has grown a lot since I stopped bleaching it blonde in hair salons, I have dyed my hair back to brown this morning with L'oreal Excellence 6.0 and am happy to look natural from now on with long hair instead of fake blonde with thinning hair! lol. The secret to long hair was simple. Stop bleaching it in hair salons! No special shampoos or expensive treatments needed to make it grow again. My next goal is to have long hair down to my waist again.
I compared my hair in Feb 2023 to today April 2024 and it is amazing how much my hair has recovered and grown! What did I do?
1. I stopped salon bleaching my hair after 31 August 2023 and tried to hold off on home dyes as long as possible rather than dye every 6 weeks.
2. I washed my hair every other day to limit losing hair strands and combed with a wide toothed comb.
3. I started using the Dyson air wrap to style my hair with alternating warm and cold air instead of 160-200 degree hair straighteners or hot rollers.
4. I never got my hair cut but only trimmed the fringe myself.
5. I reduced visits to the hair salon to once or twice a month for a wash and blowdry as they use hot heat with the blowdryer.
6. I started using 5% foam minoxidil from boots chemist on my bald spot at the back of my head. Maybe it got absorbed into the scalp and increased vascular flow to all my hair follicles?
Long thick hair is associated with youth vs thinning hair with old age. I may not be as pretty as a brunette than as a blonde but at least I have saved my hair and can turn 58 next month without worrying about going bald and needing hair toppers, extensions or wigs! Yay!
1. I stopped salon bleaching my hair after 31 August 2023 and tried to hold off on home dyes as long as possible rather than dye every 6 weeks.
2. I washed my hair every other day to limit losing hair strands and combed with a wide toothed comb.
3. I started using the Dyson air wrap to style my hair with alternating warm and cold air instead of 160-200 degree hair straighteners or hot rollers.
4. I never got my hair cut but only trimmed the fringe myself.
5. I reduced visits to the hair salon to once or twice a month for a wash and blowdry as they use hot heat with the blowdryer.
6. I started using 5% foam minoxidil from boots chemist on my bald spot at the back of my head. Maybe it got absorbed into the scalp and increased vascular flow to all my hair follicles?
Long thick hair is associated with youth vs thinning hair with old age. I may not be as pretty as a brunette than as a blonde but at least I have saved my hair and can turn 58 next month without worrying about going bald and needing hair toppers, extensions or wigs! Yay!
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Tomorrow I see my facelift surgeon for the first time since my VR smas FL Jan 2022. Hope he recognises me as I am now brunette. I compared my pics from May 2023 to April 2024 today and I have not aged! lol. I was thinking when I apply for my 60 yo freedom pass will my application be rejected with a photo of me at 60? lol.
I have been watching too many k dramas. I love looking Korean with my dark hair!
I have been watching too many k dramas. I love looking Korean with my dark hair!
Yesterday I met my great plastic surgeon Mr Nick Rhodes in York (where scenes from Harry Potter were filmed). I presented my case that his smas (+steroids) was superior to DP (+/-steroids) by other surgeons.
I compared his VR and my almost 58 yo VR smas face at 2Y3M postop taken 2 days ago
vs Jacono's dp+1-2w of steroids (see below) and the answer is clear ...dp (also called sub smas) may not fix nasolabials and may create them! Nasolabials make one look 40s+. You can never look 20s with deep nasolabial folds! See for yourself. I will NEVER have dp even when I am 70! Even Dr Sam Hamra who invented the dp in 1990 changed his tune and went back to smas facelifts.
His price for VR smas under GA is £7995. Why pay up to $120k to keep your nasolabials???
I compared his VR and my almost 58 yo VR smas face at 2Y3M postop taken 2 days ago
vs Jacono's dp+1-2w of steroids (see below) and the answer is clear ...dp (also called sub smas) may not fix nasolabials and may create them! Nasolabials make one look 40s+. You can never look 20s with deep nasolabial folds! See for yourself. I will NEVER have dp even when I am 70! Even Dr Sam Hamra who invented the dp in 1990 changed his tune and went back to smas facelifts.His price for VR smas under GA is £7995. Why pay up to $120k to keep your nasolabials???
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