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How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.
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Hi @bluebbb007, VR means vertical restore or vertical vector facelift. Deep plane is done in the oblique slanted vector which is not the best in my opinion to restore youth and beauty. Vertical is a pull of the smas muscle directly upwards. Dr Amir Karam in California does VR facelifts but charges a fortune, ie around $50,000! Whereas where I had it done at Coppergate Clinic in York, UK charges £5495 for a vertical vector restoration facelift and during covid when I had it done it only cost £3495.
Here is today's collage at over 25 months post VR smas facelift. The top 2 are lying down and the bottom 2 standing. Everything looks amazing for almost age 58. The smudges under my eyes are failed makeup attempts at baby aegyo sal.
I need to research why extreme cold weather makes my face fat graft swell though. It swelled a lot in Korea in -12C weather and gave me a puffy face. Maybe I had mild hypothermia?
Oh well as long as I stay warm indoors my face looks fab and the fat cells behave.
I need to research why extreme cold weather makes my face fat graft swell though. It swelled a lot in Korea in -12C weather and gave me a puffy face. Maybe I had mild hypothermia?
Oh well as long as I stay warm indoors my face looks fab and the fat cells behave.
Hi @MissOrange since you had FL, how many time did you do the fat grafting? Just curious how often do we need it.
Also regarding Smas FL, most I researched in the US are doing Deep instead Smas. Either mini or deep, over 30k does smas. Seems like not popular in here.
Not sure if you had seen the facebook facelift group, they all swollen very bad, and I'm definitely agreed the suture in Korea is much much better then in the States.
Hi @weewee, I stopped getting facial fat graft after my last one in Jan 2020 so none since my first VR without steroids July 5, 2021 or my second VR retightening/smas with steroids Jan 2022.
Yes in the US surgeons are pushing deep plane so they can charge a lot more money and half do not prescribe medrol pack so the swelling is very bad. They all seem to end up with deep nasolabial folds and some with laxity as early as 6 weeks postop when they deswell.
Here is an article detailing the b&a of 13 US facelift surgeons in this Allure article. https://www.allure.com/story/13-peo...t=The modern lift doesn't,used to in the '70s
I love Isabella Rossellini ever since she starred in Death becomes her. She looks wonderful at age 71 now. Unfortunately I have set myself a goal to never age, so who knows what I will look like at 71, but the way things are going I can face turning 60 in 2 years quite easily.
My tip for anyone who accidentally ends up looking 30 years younger with plastic surgery is to NEVER real your age to any stranger younger than you. Just keep telling yourself, “they don’t need to know.” I have endured 2 younger men seated next to me on 2 respective international flights look at me like I am a freak when they realise they thought I was decades younger after I reveal my true age. I can’t win. I can’t look like a grannie making small talk sitting next to a stranger which I am soon to be but instead they think I am of their much younger generation! On the last flight to Korea when the student thought I was Chinese, I showed a photo of me as a child to prove I was 100% Korean and the Korean student said his mum had a photo just like mine, looked confused, so I told him my true age. Big mistake! He couldn’t get off the plane fast enough! Then he got his sister who was seated in the back rows and whispered to her and she had a good stare at me too. Boy do Koreans love to stare and not in a good way.
I can’t win. In Korea, they think I am Chinese. In the UK and the US they think I am Eurasian. When I speak, Brits think I am American and Americans think I am British. And when I fly to the US later this year to see my grandchild, I will face an immigration officer who will be triply perplexed that I hold a British passport that says I was born 58 years ago, yet look Chinese, sound American, look 20s and am here to visit my grandchild? Thank goodness for fingerprints and retina scans. He might think I am pulling his leg? lol. Then when he asks, “what is your secret to looking young,” I ponder and reflect on the 276 pages here, smile and reply with 2 words, “good genes”.
My tip for anyone who accidentally ends up looking 30 years younger with plastic surgery is to NEVER real your age to any stranger younger than you. Just keep telling yourself, “they don’t need to know.” I have endured 2 younger men seated next to me on 2 respective international flights look at me like I am a freak when they realise they thought I was decades younger after I reveal my true age. I can’t win. I can’t look like a grannie making small talk sitting next to a stranger which I am soon to be but instead they think I am of their much younger generation! On the last flight to Korea when the student thought I was Chinese, I showed a photo of me as a child to prove I was 100% Korean and the Korean student said his mum had a photo just like mine, looked confused, so I told him my true age. Big mistake! He couldn’t get off the plane fast enough! Then he got his sister who was seated in the back rows and whispered to her and she had a good stare at me too. Boy do Koreans love to stare and not in a good way.
I can’t win. In Korea, they think I am Chinese. In the UK and the US they think I am Eurasian. When I speak, Brits think I am American and Americans think I am British. And when I fly to the US later this year to see my grandchild, I will face an immigration officer who will be triply perplexed that I hold a British passport that says I was born 58 years ago, yet look Chinese, sound American, look 20s and am here to visit my grandchild? Thank goodness for fingerprints and retina scans. He might think I am pulling his leg? lol. Then when he asks, “what is your secret to looking young,” I ponder and reflect on the 276 pages here, smile and reply with 2 words, “good genes”.
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Miss Orange, I've been researching MACs facelifts. Are they the same as short scar facelifts. I've found a couple of doctors in Belgium but I need to do more research. Why is it so hard to find before and afters over a year old?
Hi @6098Sophia yes macs is similar to a short scar facelift or VR facelift but remember no steroids= fail. I guess patients may not get a 1Y follow up appointment, may not want to fly back or have decided not to go back if it sags.
Here are more selfies from yesterday. I went to a drinks reception and strangers thought I was at uni in my 20s! I then thought having a slender figure (weight 95lbs) as well as my face with no nasolabial folds or forehead wrinkles is why they cannot picture me in my late 50s.
When facelift surgeons start doubling their prices, it makes me wonder if they are close to retirement and may be trying to maximise profits or cover medicolegal litigation costs? Please, on pain of death (figure of speech), do NOT get an invasive deep plane face and neck lift. You should be able to get a VR macs facelift for £5495 or a smas face and necklift for £8k in Canada or ASPS in Seoul.
Kinda wish more of my fellow American ladies knew about SK and good face clinics like ASPS and the likes. It's literally $10k USD vs. $150K USD.
Super rich ladies are flying from London to LA to get face and neck lifts from Dr Steve Kim at www.SKplasticsurgery.com.
He trained at ucla then went to S Korea to learn there too. I guess instead of flying to Korea, ladies are flying to a Korean plastic surgeon in LA. Her neck looks nice (day 50) but I want to know the longevity of a neck lift. A former patient of expensive Dominic Bray told me her neck lift part of her face and neck lift was shortlived.
I must say his fat grafting b&a is good too for building up the forehead and chin instead of getting a silicone chin implant.
I built up my chin as part of full face fat graft with Dr Seo in Korea 2018 and 2020 for 2.5 million won or $2k or £1600 which is much less than £4500 the price of a chin implant in the UK. No risk of chin implant rejection, infection or need to replace as one is using one's own fat cells. I think use of foreign body implants is dated surgery and the future is fat transfer done in Korea, a country that is far advanced in plastic surgery.
He trained at ucla then went to S Korea to learn there too. I guess instead of flying to Korea, ladies are flying to a Korean plastic surgeon in LA. Her neck looks nice (day 50) but I want to know the longevity of a neck lift. A former patient of expensive Dominic Bray told me her neck lift part of her face and neck lift was shortlived.
I must say his fat grafting b&a is good too for building up the forehead and chin instead of getting a silicone chin implant.
I built up my chin as part of full face fat graft with Dr Seo in Korea 2018 and 2020 for 2.5 million won or $2k or £1600 which is much less than £4500 the price of a chin implant in the UK. No risk of chin implant rejection, infection or need to replace as one is using one's own fat cells. I think use of foreign body implants is dated surgery and the future is fat transfer done in Korea, a country that is far advanced in plastic surgery.
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