How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

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Lien said:
Appreciate your input, @MissOrange. I haven't had my brows touched at all for the last 6 years. They've faded a lot but the hair on my eyebrows is exactly where you see. Besides, the excess loose skin where I've circled in red isn't gonna be removed, even with an upper bleph.
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Hi @Lien, I have circled the area in blue where the tattoo is too low. If it is hair and not tattoo, then it is easy to pluck the area in blue or use a concealer. The top of your eyebrow is at a good height. I know you want to get something done, but I am advising do nothing. You have pretty eyes. Plastic surgery is for when you have a deformity so severe that you are willing to take on the risk of complications.

The British lady who went to Turkey for deep plane face and neck lift had to cope with anaesthesia induced psychosis, neuropraxia of the marginal mandibular branch of the facial nerve, and now may have either ridge swelling or dog ears complication (time will tell). I can’t convey how much her mental health has suffered. My heart breaks for this lady. Truly you have to have a severe deformity to risk plastic surgery and all its potential complications. Deep plane and especially revision is very invasive. My success rate for all my plastic surgery ops I have had has been 50%! Which means half the surgeries I have had, have needed revision for collapse, failure, deformity, leakage, rupture, asymmetry or infection.

I now do NOT want any plastic surgery unless I am hideously deformed that I cannot look at a mirror which means my neck will have to wait until it truly does look like a 70 year old neck as I do not want to risk fibrosis, lumps, bad scars, failed neck lift, etc.D5EAC669-CFA9-48A2-9A88-566AE68426BE.jpeg
 
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Hey MissOrange,

Thank you for the detailed response. What are your thoughts on post-op steroid usage with other soft tissue procedures such as Rhino or even lip lifts? Can the results of these procedures be compromised without using post-op steroids?
 
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kathybunny said:
Yes my doctor is Lee Min Koo. I requested from the GP for my eczema but i really did have eczema flare up few weeks ago. My GP initially only prescribed the usual anti-histamine and hydrocortisone cream but i said i wanted to try the oral steroid too. Too bad he's only willing to prescribe 5 days course of 20mg a day. Try to get more if you can as its better to be over prepared than under prepared if you are prone to swelling like me.
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I actually do have eczema and rosacea and usually use a cortisone cream so I could ask my doc for the oral steroids. I'm assuming you have to have some sort of doctors certificate to be allowed to take it through customs? Thanks again for sharing your journey. How did you find Dr Lee? I haven't had my consult with him yet, just been given a quote from his social media team ☺️
 
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MissOrange said:
Hi @Lien, I have circled the area in blue where the tattoo is too low. If it is hair and not tattoo, then it is easy to pluck the area in blue or use a concealer. The top of your eyebrow is at a good height. I know you want to get something done, but I am advising do nothing. You have pretty eyes. Plastic surgery is for when you have a deformity so severe that you are willing to take on the risk of complications.

The British lady who went to Turkey for deep plane face and neck lift had to cope with anaesthesia induced psychosis, neuropraxia of the marginal mandibular branch of the facial nerve, and now may have either ridge swelling or dog ears complication (time will tell). I can’t convey how much her mental health has suffered. My heart breaks for this lady. Truly you have to have a severe deformity to risk plastic surgery and all its potential complications. Deep plane and especially revision is very invasive. My success rate for all my plastic surgery ops I have had has been 50%! Which means half the surgeries I have had, have needed revision for collapse, failure, deformity, leakage, rupture, asymmetry or infection.

I now do NOT want any plastic surgery unless I am hideously deformed that I cannot look at a mirror which means my neck will have to wait until it truly does look like a 70 year old neck as I do not want to risk fibrosis, lumps, bad scars, failed neck lift, etc.View attachment 5960096
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I'm so sorry to hear about your friend, @MissOrange. Are her issues more to do with the skills (or rather lack) of the PS in Turkey?
I'm surprised though to hear that your success rate has been only 50%. Wow, that's a wake up call, for sure.

Thank you for the compliment. I don't just want to do something. I know I have excess skin on my lids and this is hereditary. My father had droopy eyes so bad he couldn't see properly when he got older. Just before he passed, he complained that he could only see like 20%; the excess skin has covered most of his eyes leaving tiny little slits. So an upper bleph will not only be for aesthetics but it'll be more functional. My vision is already being affected (I feel like I only see 80% of what I used to be able to), and that'll need to be fixed, eventually.

I'm heeding your advice re the browlift though. Will leave that alone. I'm drawing my brows higher and will use concealer to cover the tattooed/hairy areas on the lower parts of my brows.

Thank you for considering my issues and giving advice. You're the best! xx
 
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rosie8800 said:
Your temples look fine, I think if you fill it, it might look weird but if you really want to, I think a little is fine.
upper blepharoplasty will help if you like the O.O (eyes wide open) type of look.
Fat graft is fine, but your cheekbones are big and pretty so maybe not too much. I think you already look great.
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I'm only gonna do a teeny tiny bit of fat transfer to the temples. Ditto the whole face. I don't want the overfilled look.
Upper bleph is to help with my vision (herediatary issue) as much as aesthetics.

Thank you for your compliments:-).
 
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The list of red flags keeps growing against Mehmet Comert. Now I learned he gave my British friend a class C illegal drug xanax which is 10x stronger and more addictive than valium! No wonder she is having a hard time recovering and her mental health is suffering. There is a reason xanax (alprazolam) was BANNED in th UK and possession carries a 2 year prison sentence. She must be going through awful withdrawal symptoms.

Please remember you have no idea what the anaesthetists in Turkey are using for general anaesthesia for 10-12 hours to induce psychosis, then they give you anti psychotic drugs typically given to patients with paranoid schiziphrenia, then they leave you with eyes swollen shut for the first few days instead of start medrol pack, then when you can't breathe from neck swelling they give you emergency intravenous high dose pred and finally they give you illegal addictive xanax benzodiazepine which gives a euphoric feeling of relaxation and peace that now you can be strongly addicted to it.

No wonder I was able to walk to my hotel an hour after my facelift under local. I was not drugged!
 
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kathybunny said:
Hi dannythedragon, here are the photos - before, D2 with swelling at its peak, D7 (i have really bad bruises and my incision line start from top of ear all the way to neck) and D8. I will be taking down my photos after some time. I was hoping the incision would start from around temple area so perhaps it would kinda "elongate" the length of my eyes but the doctor refuse to do it on me.
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Hi @kathybunny based on the incision line going down the back of the neck, 11 million won (£8k) for a smas face and necklift is a BARGAIN! I think I will go to ASPS in my 60s when I can combine a neck lift with a lower facelift. I am not sure if Dr Lee will still be operating then. Surgeons are growing older as we age too! lol. The UK is now too expensive for a combined lower face and neck lift. Gosh I wonder what prices will be like in 5 years time in Korea?
 
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Here is another Brit lady operated on by Turkish Mehmet Comert a day or so after he operated on my friend. This shows you that deep plane may make one less attractive compared to smas facelift which makes one more beautiful in my opinion. I would argue this lady may not have needed a neck lift or an invasive end stage deep plane when a simple macs facelift or fillers until her face got bad enough for a facelift may have been better.

Be careful of aggressive deep plane fl/nl surgeons in Turkey, the UK, the US and Korea, especially if it is your first facelift and you are young and have not had menoface yet and remember swelling=sagging. Swelling is the enemy of facelifts.

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MissOrange said:
@blisssoul1 try asps for smas facelift and either machimpyo or honnete for fat grafting. Both procedures require a week of postop steroids either pred or medrol pack to stop swelling causing skin stretch.
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Thank you @MissOrange for the reply. I will definitely consider your recommendation. My goal is to look young like you. You are so helpful. Which doctor do you recommend for fat grafting ? And which surgery do you recommend to do first? How long I have to wait to get another one?
English isn’t my first language so .. pls forgive my poor writing. I have followed you in Insta too :)
 
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blisssoul1 said:
Thank you @MissOrange for the reply. I will definitely consider your recommendation. My goal is to look young like you. You are so helpful. Which doctor do you recommend for fat grafting ? And which surgery do you recommend to do first? How long I have to wait to get another one?
English isn’t my first language so .. pls forgive my poor writing. I have followed you in Insta too :smile:
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Hi @blisssoul1, I am flattered you want to look young like me! And thank you for the IG follow.

Machimpyo and Honnete only have one surgeon. I had Dr Hyoseok Seo at Machimpyo but he does not prescribe steroids. I was pleasantly surprised to hear that the surgeon at Honnete does prescribe prednisolone after his face fat graft. I would suggest you get the facial fat graft first and then the facelift to make sure everything is tightened up with a facelift. This is the order I did. I would wait one year between procedures to make sure you do not need a fat graft top up before you start trimming excess skin with a facelift.
 
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