How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.
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So ASPS Korea is the best place to go? And can steroids be sought elsewhere and brought to the clinic to administer?
I found one facelift patient of Turkish Dr Mehmet Comert on his IG at over 6 months, ie he posted her 10 month result. She is only 30 and he performed an endoscopic deep plane temple subperiosteal midface lift which in my opinion she did not need and now looks very unnatural. She was more beautiful before surgery. All she needed was a lower bleph and closed rhino which he did too but to push a midface lift when she had no excess skin is too aggressive and borders on unethical. Now she looks 40!
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Hi @6098Sophia please do your own research. I am no longer giving out any recommendations other than the surgeons I used myself.
I understand! Thanks for your information it's been very useful ☺️
this is the best thread ever in existence for plastic surgery honestly. oml. you're a legit OG.😭
Hey! Idk if anyone mention this, but this happen cause of this: "One of the most common causes of bone loss in the jaw is periodontal disease. For older patients, gingivitis, left untreated, can eventually lead to periodontitis (severe gum disease). This condition leads to the formation of pockets between your gums and teeth that become home to bacteria and infection. This infection can cause deterioration in the bone structure supporting the teeth."
Also! for the dr that does ur face graft, if I wanted to go to him, do I need to have a translator?
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Hi @demonize, welcome to my thread! Yes jawbone resorption may occur from old age osteoporosis, accelerated osteoporosis from jawbone shaving, periodontitis as you mention, and chronic pressure from a silicone chin implant.
As for my facial fat graft plastic surgeon, go to his Machimpyo website, scan the kakao QR code and start typing in English. His English clinic translator then replies. No need to hire a translator. At consult Dr Seo speaks a little English and she is there to translate fully too. But bear in mind he does not prescribe postop steroids so you will need to source elsewhere.
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Today's post is on the crucial importance of postop steroids. It does not matter where in the world you get a facelift if you do not take steroids immediately postop, it may fail anytime between 6 weeks and 6 months. Swelling=sagging.
100% of surgeons in Korea do not give steroids after a facelift. Only 1 breast surgeon in Korea gives steroids after facial fat graft.
98% of UK surgeons do not give steroids. Only Dr Andrea Marando gives postop steroids on request and Dr Dominic Bray gives steroids but at too small a dose to be effective in my opinion.
50% of US surgeons do not give steroids. But the top facelift surgeons Dr Andrew Jacono, Dr Amir Karam, and Dr Mike Nayak do give postop steroids.
100% of Turkish surgeons do not give steroids.
This is a painful reminder of what happens when one does not take postop steroids after any facial procedure that causes profound swelling. Trigger warning. This is very sad and deeply emotional.
One younger British lady with acne scars had profound facial swelling following aggressive Taylor liberator subcision which set her back £1000s. She trusted a doctor who had a prior GMC warning and now has an interim order warning.This then deswelled and left her with severe facial laxity and premature aging. All she wanted was treatment for her acne scars but ended up looking decades older.
She then paid a London facelift surgeon claiming to be the leading surgeon in deep plane face and neck lifts £15,000. She had this operation in a clinic in Chelsea so not a proper hospital with hospital beds. Again she got no postop steroids and had profound swelling then laxity when her face fully deswelled. The surgeon refunded her 50% after much to and fro correspondence.
She next flew to Turkey as revision DP face and neck lift with lower bleph, (and was upsold a transtemporal midface lift too) with 2 nights in hospital and 9 in a hotel was advertised at £6500. They gave her no steroids. She brought prednisolone with her but did not take any before or after her 12-14 hour op. She suffered extreme facial and neck swelling with difficulty breathing and is in hospital a 3rd night in a row. I am praying she will finally start the prednisolone tablets as she has only trusted her male doctors/surgeons thus far who have taken several £1000s from her and made her suffer enormously each time
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100% of surgeons in Korea do not give steroids after a facelift. Only 1 breast surgeon in Korea gives steroids after facial fat graft.
98% of UK surgeons do not give steroids. Only Dr Andrea Marando gives postop steroids on request and Dr Dominic Bray gives steroids but at too small a dose to be effective in my opinion.
50% of US surgeons do not give steroids. But the top facelift surgeons Dr Andrew Jacono, Dr Amir Karam, and Dr Mike Nayak do give postop steroids.
100% of Turkish surgeons do not give steroids.
This is a painful reminder of what happens when one does not take postop steroids after any facial procedure that causes profound swelling. Trigger warning. This is very sad and deeply emotional.
One younger British lady with acne scars had profound facial swelling following aggressive Taylor liberator subcision which set her back £1000s. She trusted a doctor who had a prior GMC warning and now has an interim order warning.This then deswelled and left her with severe facial laxity and premature aging. All she wanted was treatment for her acne scars but ended up looking decades older.
She then paid a London facelift surgeon claiming to be the leading surgeon in deep plane face and neck lifts £15,000. She had this operation in a clinic in Chelsea so not a proper hospital with hospital beds. Again she got no postop steroids and had profound swelling then laxity when her face fully deswelled. The surgeon refunded her 50% after much to and fro correspondence.
She next flew to Turkey as revision DP face and neck lift with lower bleph, (and was upsold a transtemporal midface lift too) with 2 nights in hospital and 9 in a hotel was advertised at £6500. They gave her no steroids. She brought prednisolone with her but did not take any before or after her 12-14 hour op. She suffered extreme facial and neck swelling with difficulty breathing and is in hospital a 3rd night in a row. I am praying she will finally start the prednisolone tablets as she has only trusted her male doctors/surgeons thus far who have taken several £1000s from her and made her suffer enormously each time
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Please do not go through life saying I will trust my surgeon 100% and get whatever he suggests. At the end of the day it is your body and you have to live with the consequences of a silicone implant or SVF microneedling. Don’t cut corners. Find a good experienced facial fat graft surgeon to build up your weak chin or to give you baby skin with autologous prp fat graft.
This is so true and applies to all cosmetic surgeries and even if you had a successful ps it doesn't necessarily follow that future surgeries with the same doc may turn out as well. Thanks for your wisdom MissOrange.
This is so true and applies to all cosmetic surgeries and even if you had a successful ps it doesn't necessarily follow that future surgeries with the same doc may turn out as well. Thanks for your wisdom MissOrange.
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That poor woman! I'm so confused about why post op steroids aren't used by all surgeons post surgery? I am thinking about surgery in Korea in the next few years but if I can't source steroids then what is the point? Thanks again Miss Orange 😊Today's post is on the crucial importance of postop steroids. It does not matter where in the world you get a facelift if you do not take steroids immediately postop, it may fail anytime between 6 weeks and 6 months. Swelling=sagging.
100% of surgeons in Korea do not give steroids after a facelift. Only 1 breast surgeon in Korea gives steroids after facial fat graft.
98% of UK surgeons do not give steroids. Only Dr Andrea Marando gives postop steroids on request and Dr Dominic Bray gives steroids but at too small a dose to be effective in my opinion.
50% of US surgeons do not give steroids. But the top facelift surgeons Dr Andrew Jacono, Dr Amir Karam, and Dr Mike Nayak do give postop steroids.
100% of Turkish surgeons do not give steroids.
This is a painful reminder of what happens when one does not take postop steroids after any facial procedure that causes profound swelling. Trigger warning. This is very sad and deeply emotional.
One younger British lady with acne scars had profound facial swelling following aggressive Taylor liberator subcision which set her back £1000s. She trusted a doctor who had a prior GMC warning and now has an interim order warning.This then deswelled and left her with severe facial laxity and premature aging. All she wanted was treatment for her acne scars but ended up looking decades older.
She then paid a London facelift surgeon claiming to be the leading surgeon in deep plane face and neck lifts £15,000. She had this operation in a clinic in Chelsea so not a proper hospital with hospital beds. Again she got no postop steroids and had profound swelling then laxity when her face fully deswelled. The surgeon refunded her 50% after much to and fro correspondence.
She next flew to Turkey as revision DP face and neck lift with lower bleph, (and was upsold a transtemporal midface lift too) with 2 nights in hospital and 9 in a hotel was advertised at £6500. They gave her no steroids. She brought prednisolone with her but did not take any before or after her 12-14 hour op. She suffered extreme facial and neck swelling with difficulty breathing and is in hospital a 3rd night in a row. I am praying she will finally start the prednisolone tablets as she has only trusted her male doctors/surgeons thus far who have taken several £1000s from her and made her suffer enormously each time
Miss Orange, do you know if they do fat grafting to the hands in Korea and if they are skilled at it? I got a quote for 10k in the U.S. for this procedure and would definitely like to get it done in Korea where it’s cheaper but I don’t see any clinics actually offering it, though I’ve yet to research deeply.
Hi @Jukebe, the coppergate clinic in York, UK charges £2500 which is considerably less than $10k. Idk any korean clinics putting fat graft in hands but you could ask Honnete clinic in Korea who do a lot of fat grafting for 900,000 won or $800.
This is one of the reasons I decided against a facelift in Korea. The British lady in Turkey ended up getting intravenous prednisolone as an emergency treatment for her profound facial and neck swelling. She will be staying a 4th night in hospital in Turkey.
I guess the safest option would be to go with a surgeon who prescribes postop steroids, so in the UK that would be Andrea Marando in Manchester and in the US any of the top surgeons unless you can find a local surgeon who does smas and prescribes prednisone.
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