How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

[MissOrange]

@MissOrange , I am still shocked at your amazing progress!! I couldn't even go to the toilet without help for several days. Even at 1-2 weeks post-op, I needed help to take a shower (well, washing my "bits" and under-arms). How did you step into the bath and come out just 1 day post-op???!! My pain from the lipo site was tremendous!!

Your thighs look fabulous too!! I really wish I could have gone to David Floyd too. I live in Singapore, hence the reason for having the op here. My father and siblings and extended family live in London and am from there. I was going to visit them and had my procedure there. But like I mentioned, Covid happened. You're right. SG is horrendously expensive!! I paid multiple times what you paid. So not happy about that! But I was suffering so much from BII.

I chose to have the FT at the same time as explant, as I had a benign lump removed and didn't want to look deformed. Glad to hear you say that 50% retention is not too bad. I had 260cc approx injected into each breast and am now a B cup (originally A cup naturally). It's the lack of volume on the upper poles that bothers me the most. I hope my next FT won't be such a big deal since I really only want a little bit of fat extracted and transferred to "correct" the upper poles. I will contact Sheila and see if I can make an appt soon. I am very encouraged now that I've seen yr posts.

Thank you for recommending Dr Seo to me. I will look him up. Do you think FT to the face stays? Is the retention better than FT to breasts - assuming I only get it done once? Need to wait til the Covid situation improves. This Covid has really messed everything up!!

I'd love to see updated pics of your boobs, if you wouldn't mind please.

Thanks for responding and I will continue to watch this thread with interest. x

@Phoenix123 Wow you paid multiples of what I paid David! Ouch! But yes covid messed up lots of surgeries and consultations. BII is awful so getting it out ASAP is wise.

The key to retention of fat is to lose weight 3-5 lbs ideally and then resistant fat is harvested into the breasts or face. Then gain weight back to your ideal weight and eat lots of fatty foods. I found this worked for my face fat graft. I didn’t need the second top up with Dr Seo in January this year as I was 5 lbs underweight and just needed to gain weight back up to my ideal but having the top up means I now have plenty of fat cells in my face so no need for any more fat grafting for years to come.

I posted more photos today in the closed FT FB group. This TPF site is accessed by both sexes so I should not really be posting my breasts here and the site does not allow one to delete the photos once posted, unlike the FB and realself sites! Ouch! Oh well, good thing I am 54 as no one is really interested in looking at an ajumma’s boobs. Lol.

 

[Phoenix123]

@Phoenix123 Wow you paid multiples of what I paid David! Ouch! But yes covid messed up lots of surgeries and consultations. BII is awful so getting it out ASAP is wise.

The key to retention of fat is to lose weight 3-5 lbs ideally and then resistant fat is harvested into the breasts or face. Then gain weight back to your ideal weight and eat lots of fatty foods. I found this worked for my face fat graft. I didn’t need the second top up with Dr Seo in January this year as I was 5 lbs underweight and just needed to gain weight back up to my ideal but having the top up means I now have plenty of fat cells in my face so no need for any more fat grafting for years to come.

I posted more photos today in the closed FT FB group. This TPF site is accessed by both sexes so I should not really be posting my breasts here and the site does not allow one to delete the photos once posted, unlike the FB and realself sites! Ouch! Oh well, good thing I am 54 as no one is really interested in looking at an ajumma’s boobs. Lol.

I must admit I didn't know about the "stubborn" fat until after I'd had the op. That's so great that you won't need more fat grafting to the face for several more years. I'll take that! lol

Yes, I forgot. Apologies. I'll go and check your FB postings now.

Thank you again for responding so quickly.

(You really don't look your age - at all).

 

[MissOrange]

Here is a collage of my right stubborn fat area that David Floyd used for my breast FT among other areas of my lower body. The result in one day is remarkable. I can no longer pinch fat and neither does it hang like a blob of loose skin! I love this pic collage app! So pleased I do not need a vertical scar thigh lift! 19 inch fat thigh on the left vs 18 inch young slim thigh on the right and all included in the price of breast fat transfer! Even getting implants doesn't include lipo! lol. So chuffed to have 20s thighs now to match my skinny arms. lol.

I am now done with plastic surgery until my 60s. My body says enough! lol.

 

[Teina]

How was he able to make your thigh skin tighter without a lift? Are you sure it's not from swelling and extra fluid build up?

 

[MissOrange]

How was he able to make your thigh skin tighter without a lift? Are you sure it's not from swelling and extra fluid build up?

Hi @Teina,

Swelling occurs at 2-3 days postop for me. I always got facial swelling post FT at 2-3 days just as I would fly home from korea. The thigh after was at 24 hours. He did not use tumescent fluid just old-fashioned liposuction. This older method worked wonders back in 2004 to lipo my tummy and thighs, ie instant skinny legs and tummy with no swelling. He was very gentle as there are no bruises on my thighs, only around my knees. Bruising can be a sign of soft tissue trauma which is more likely to lead to swelling and lack of bruising a sign of minimal trauma so minimal swelling if any.

I am wearing the compression garment on my thighs 24/7 as it is vital for the skin to adhere to the soft tissues. I guess it is like chin or neck lipo, suddenly one can see a jawline appear once the flab has been suctioned assuming one has good skin elasticity. You can test by pinching the skin on the top of your hand, ie the dorsum. If you let go and the skin drops instantly, you have good skin elasticity but if it takes a few seconds, your elasticity is not as good making one prone to skin sagging.

I must admit I do worry the thigh skin will suddenly sag as it has been liposuctioned 8 times now since 2004, but my skin collagen and elasticity seem to be very good for my age, as I avoid the sun, spent most of my life indoors either at school, working in hospitals never seeing the light of day or working in GP surgeries and in retirement spent indoors at home watching k dramas and films on netflix in a country which rains a lot and rarely gets sun and of course I do not smoke as smoking affects blood supply to the skin which then destroys collagen and skin elasticity. I was never one for sunbathing and have never had extreme weight gain or extreme weight loss which would overstretch the skin which then may adversely affect elasticity. I did look into a mini thigh lift after the 7th thigh lipo (unexpected facial FT in Jan and an add on in the evening so did not bring a compression garment and the surgeon was in a rush) as my thighs ended up dented, lumpy and had flab but for now the 8th one which was not done in a hurry but with care and consideration seems to have removed the lumps and smoothened my thighs. The UK surgeon had said at consult he could remove the lumps and smoothen the thighs but that for the first round of breast FT he would just use my love handles. As I lost weight before the surgery to allow only resistant fat to remain, he noted I now didn't have enough fat in my flanks so took from my stubborn fatty thighs. My right thigh was always fat and 19 inches even when I weighed only 95 lbs so definitely had stubborn fat cells. For now I can postpone thigh lift to my 60s as thigh scars may be unsightly and permanent!

Will be checking my thighs daily each time I remove the garment to bathe. Fingers crossed the thigh lipo stays as good as my arm lipo results from a year ago. Each year I get older I am acutely aware my skin may lose its elasticity and may not heal as well as a younger person and with each GA comes the risk of familial stroke for me, so for now I am done with plastic surgery. My post menopause fatty arms and thighs have now been sorted.

 

[Mazikeen]

Happy that your FT went well. And the thighs look fab. So did you cancel the thigh lift or will you still have it done?

 

[MissOrange]

Happy that your FT went well. And the thighs look fab. So did you cancel the thigh lift or will you still have it done?

Hi @Mazikeen, I cancelled the mini thigh lift. Day 2 and my thighs and breasts are swollen. With swelling comes pain!!! I now have a stiff back and muscle aches and pains! Aargh. I can’t face any more surgery. I forgot the pain and immobility. The compression garment is way too tight now and hurts! Dr O will refund me when he gets back from holiday. I had paid the full amount in advance!

 

[Gats]

Hi @MissOrange, did you provide your own thigh compression garment which was given to you during one of your previous fat grafts where they took fat from the thighs? I thought the Korean clinics only bandage your thigh up for lipo for fg and do not require it? Did you wear them after every fg previously? I'm curious if not using compression garment after every fg could result in the lipo'ed thighs sagging later in life.

 

[Mazikeen]

Hi @Mazikeen, I cancelled the mini thigh lift. Day 2 and my thighs and breasts are swollen. With swelling comes pain!!! I now have a stiff back and muscle aches and pains! Aargh. I can’t face any more surgery. I forgot the pain and immobility. The compression garment is way too tight now and hurts! Dr O will refund me when he gets back from holiday. I had paid the full amount in advance!

You could purchase training compression tights. They are more comfortable.

Compression Tights

Designed to deliver the ultimate in performance to help elevate your running & training. Our compression tights will help reduce the risk of injury and speed up recovery to keep you performing at your best.

www.2xu.com

 

[MissOrange]

Hi @MissOrange, did you provide your own thigh compression garment which was given to you during one of your previous fat grafts where they took fat from the thighs? I thought the Korean clinics only bandage your thigh up for lipo for fg and do not require it? Did you wear them after every fg previously? I'm curious if not using compression garment after every fg could result in the lipo'ed thighs sagging later in life.

Hi @Gats, DA clinic did not fit me with any thigh compression bandages post fat graft harvesting. MVP did fit me with bandages. So yes, I think for the times I was not provided with bandages in 2016-17 at DA clinic, it may have started the thigh skin sagging. I think of the 3 times I went to DA for facial fat graft, I finally complained the last time and wouldn’t leave until they provided me with bandages for my thighs.

 

[MissOrange]

You could purchase training compression tights. They are more comfortable.

Compression Tights

Designed to deliver the ultimate in performance to help elevate your running & training. Our compression tights will help reduce the risk of injury and speed up recovery to keep you performing at your best.

www.2xu.com

Thanks @Mazikeen! I shall look up this garment!

 

[MissOrange]

Post op day 3 and I tried on a 32d bra. It fits with a bit of spillage on the sides. The tops of my thighs have a bit of loose skin again but recovery is now rough as the GA has worn off and I feel like I have been beaten up all over my back and legs! I probably will need a crescent thigh lift in the future but not anytime soon as I can’t stand being an invalid in pain in bed! I weigh 102.2 lbs today which means I probably have fluid retention as I weighed 99.4 lbs on the morning of my surgery. I hope the thigh skin does not loosen more as I deswell. I have wrapped my thighs up in some old MVP bandages for now.

Dr Oelbrandt got back to me and will issue a refund when he is back from holiday mid September. It is good to know that he refunds if you give at least 10 days notice and if it is less than 10 days, he charges €300, more on the day.

 

[MissOrange]

I found this diagram of the measurements for the perfect breasts on Dr Seo’s Machimpyo website! My b and c lines were 22 cms and e was 1 cm on the right after a failed donut lift by a U.K. surgeon. I haven’t measured since breast FT. Will do once I have deswelled. Meanwhile you can get out your tape measure and see how close you are to having perfect breasts!

 

[Mazikeen]

Your boobs look good. He filled them nicely. Were you given any special bra to wear post- surgery? To minimize the loose skin maybe wear the compression 24/7 for the first few weeks if you can.

 

[MissOrange]

Your boobs look good. He filled them nicely. Were you given any special bra to wear post- surgery? To minimize the loose skin maybe wear the compression 24/7 for the first few weeks if you can.

Thanks @Mazikeen, I was given a bra to wear in hospital but I have chosen not to wear any bra. Imagine getting facial FT and wearing a tight bandage around the head squashing the fat graft? Nope. Grafted fat cells need to expand and breathe! The climate is cool here in the U.K. so this is good as extreme heat kills newly grafted fat cells.

As for my thighs, yes absolutely wearing any diy compression I can make. I cut off the top part of the small Chinese brand Spanx as it was way too tight around my hips and also found a support pantyhose that fits so I cut off the hose below the knees. Today I ate chips, sausage and ice cream! Each day I try to make it a point to have at least one meal high in fat. I deswelled a bit today as my weight went down a lb to 101 and my breasts remained a full D cup, so this is good!

Tomorrow I see David’s nurse for a wound check and dressing change. She will be surprised as there are no stitches or dressings! Oh well, she can just clean the 7 port hole sites.

If I were to need a mini thigh lift after recovery from liposuction, then I shall look into it next year. I think my face and body have taken a toll this year and it needs time to recover completely. So far no lumps or cysts. I am glad U.K. surgeons limit the amount of fat transferred to minimise risk of these complications.