Really sorry you got sagging @cherrykiss. It looks like after bone contouring surgery, a facelift becomes inevitable. Wow you are brave to have done 2 jaw and zygoma! You must have a beautiful small face!Also agree that Threadlift is unfortunately temporaryI had 2-jaw surgery + zygoma reduction with threadlift right after. Sadly I still have sagging near the lower jowels which I'm going to resolve with either with lipo in the area or some other method.... (still deciding)
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Haha thank you
. My face has always been larger than average and even now it's definitely still big. But with all that bone work + eye and nose surgeries, things are much more proportionate now.Yes changing the bone I think is inevitable for sagging but no regrets on doing what I did (maybe would've picked some diff clinics but live and learn is all we can do). I think sagging will be an easier issue to address....hopefully... but that is still pending a chat with the doctors in KR. I'll definitely post some B/A photos depending on how things go. Ideally the 14 day mandatory quarantine ends soon but with the US track record I highly doubt KR is anxiously accepting any of us at the moment
Agreed on the recovery post-lipo. It is brutal!!
Hmm...so disappointing! I was hoping not to have surgery again!
Maybe I can look into doing lipo under mild sedation (so not GA), and a very small fat transfer to the upper poles. Would you suggest that? I am afraid I might wake up half-way! Arrrghhh!!
@Phoenix123 10,000 pounds for threadlift??? Is that sterling pounds? OMG! I can’t afford to live in Singapore! Threadlifts are temporary like fillers and Botox. A dissolvable stitch is placed under the skin to pull up the face but it dissolves in 6 months and may make the skin more lax as the surgeon is loosening up the skin to insert the thread each time you have it done. If you look back through my pages, I share my experience with threadlift for 24 hours.
Yes!! I was quoted close to SGD20k which is the equivalent of roughly 10k pounds. SG is very expensive!!
So disappointing about threadlift being temporary. I will look through your previous pages, thank you.
What can one do about sagging jowls and deep marionette's lines? The upper half of my face is actually not too bad, but the lower half is ageing and it depresses me. I propped it up with fillers before but am staying away from all injectables now.
Wow the clinic and surgeon were named...Ollim clinic! The one where the Hong Kong heiress died in January this year from breast fat transfer (breast augmentation with liposuction)! This could have been me! ”It was alleged that no anaesthetists were present during the operation and Kim had instructed Jung to inject a mixture of sedatives including ketamine and midazolam into Law, who suffered complications and was declared dead an hour after being admitted to hospital.” She died on January 28. I was overcome with anxiety and panic attack on January 17 when I read the consent form said Dr Hong would administer the ketamine, midazolam and propofol himself. When one’s intuition goes crazy saying NO! Don’t take the risk! I listened. Thank goodness I could get 90% refund on the day. Why don’t Korean surgeons just pay 600,000 won to a qualified anaesthetist doctor? A U.K. anaesthetist costs £600. If Dr Hong had said I can hire a doctor anaesthetist for 600,000 more won I would say fine and then I could speak with the doctor anaesthetist too.
https://www.scmp.com/news/article/3...died-during-plastic-surgery-withdraws-lawsuit
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Hi @Phoenix123 for the lower face the choices are fat transfer, fillers or smas facelift. I use radiesse nasolabial fillers once a year but since I had my facial FT by Dr Seo I have not needed anything for my jowls as they are lifted with fat and hydration. I realised there is a technique for fat graft survival, ie lose 3-5 lbs preop and then regain postop. Of course if I lost too much weight or got dehydrated on a super hot day, my lower face would sag as does my puppy’s face! Her face looks like it is sucked in when she is dehydrated and then plumps up when she has rehydrated. You could keep a fluid diary and see if you are drinking enough water each day.
OMG!!
I too stay away from surgeries whereby the Dr performing the procedure also administers the anaesthetic. I had a minor procedure about 2 years ago (non-cosmetic) and the first Dr I consulted wanted to do this. Needless to say, I RAN!!
Ok, FT sounds good. I looked up Dr Olivier Amar, based in London. He's on IG. Have you heard of him. Is he good?
Also, Dr Dominic Bray, also based in London, performs deep plane facelifts. I also follow him on IG. I think this FL may be a bit too extensive for me and am scared of any such procedure.
I haven't heard of smas FL. But will look it up now.
I drink so much water - probably 3 to 4 litres a day. My sagging jowls are sadly, to do with age.
How's your recovery going today?
Hi @Phoenix123 wow I have not heard of Dr Olivier Amar. I shall research him. Yes Dr Bray is too expensive as he starts at £15k! Smas FL means deep plane FL as it cuts and pulls up the smas layer. Wow, I do not drink even 1/4 of that! Smas FLs in Korea range from 9-12 million won. The cheapest smas FL I have found is Dr Oelbrandt who charges around £3k+. You can look at FLs on realself for research too.
Today I shall try dolling up and see how I look in a dress with my new measurements. I haven’t put on makeup since July! Lol. In retirement one rarely finds an excuse to wear makeup. I even do my zoom Korean language classes with the video camera turned off! The students are all in their 20s as is the teacher. One of them asked for my age and I refused to give it. Lol. Best kept a secret.
Smas FL is exactly the same as deep plane FL? Just different terminology? I shall look it up on realself too. Thank you.x
Lol. I bet no one could guess accurately.
At 100.6 lbs my face looks good today! I was 96.8 lbs when I got facial fg top up in Korea in January. Gaining 3-5 lbs post FT (fat transfer) is important to maintain the fat cells. The forehead still has a round contour 6.5 months later.
10K? Nah. That is daylight robbery. You could get a full facelift for that. What kind of thread is he using??That's really great!! Sooo happy for you!!
The laser with steroid injections are to lessen the scars? I need something like that. My scars are not great.
Does threadlift really work? I keep reading that they don't work. Also, you can feel the "cones" on your face. What kind of threadlift did you have? I've consulted with Dr Martin Huang here in Singapore and he's suggested a silhouette lift. The cost is very high, the equivalent of 10k pounds, and I'd be extremely upset if it didn't work, ie. if the effect didn't last beyond a year or so...Well, not just the cost, but also the pain I'd have to endure.
OAN:
Just googled him and he is shady, shady. Darkweb & pedo vibes shady.
Plastic surgeon Martin Huang fined $10,000 for failing to exercise due care in managing teenager
SINGAPORE - Well-known plastic surgeon Martin Huang has been censured and fined $10,000 by the Singapore Medical Council's (SMC) disciplinary tribunal for failing to exercise due care in managing a teenage patient. Read more at straitstimes.com. Read more at straitstimes.com.
taking pics of naked teens?:
Yes def an improvement. Keep wearing the compression to help the skin retract.
10K? Nah. That is daylight robbery. You could get a full facelift for that. What kind of thread is he using??
OAN:
Just googled him and he is shady, shady. Darkweb & pedo vibes shady.
Plastic surgeon Martin Huang fined $10,000 for failing to exercise due care in managing teenager
SINGAPORE - Well-known plastic surgeon Martin Huang has been censured and fined $10,000 by the Singapore Medical Council's (SMC) disciplinary tribunal for failing to exercise due care in managing a teenage patient. Read more at straitstimes.com. Read more at straitstimes.com.www.straitstimes.com
taking pics of naked teens?:
I agree, the cost his of silhouette lift is very high. I think it is a function of two factors: 1) SG is very very expensive (read a few pages back on how much I paid for my explant and FT), 2) he is one of the best here (best for me, in my personal experience anyway).
I wouldn't believe everything you read in the news. We don't know the full facts of the case. So, I myself wouldn't draw any such conclusion.
I've known Dr Martin Huang for almost 20 years and he did my breast augmentation in 2004 and did a beautiful job. If it weren't for BII, I wouldn't have had the implants removed. My breasts were soft and beautiful and natural looking, and perfect for my frame. His scars were beautiful (he corrected the ugly scars left behind by a Mr Marion in London, whom I used for my first set). I also used him for many other procedures and have always been pleased with his work. If threadlift were permanent or at least longer lasting, I would ask him to do this silhouette lift for me. I trust his work and his integrity.
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