How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

[MissOrange]

@MissOrange , you're looking AMAZING!! How are the upper poles looking?

I must admit to being a wee bit jealous...haha, j/k...well kinda! I'm only an A cup. Was a B cup post-op.

@Phoenix123 I was thinking you are willing to spend £10k on threads in Singapore when for half that £5.6k +£85 hospital covid test +£250 consult you could have had breast FT with lower body lipo in the UK? No brainer to me which is the better bargain. And David never told me to remove my underwear at consult or at the hospital in paper knickers for photos and marking.

It's ok to be jealous. I spent ages being jealous of ladies who got a full anchor lift and nipples at 17 cms vs my failed lift and sag at 22 cm nipples.

Here are my thighs today on day 12. My right thigh is now fine but my left inner upper thigh is wrinkly from lipo. Sigh. I shall wait the full 3 months as lipo takes this long for full recovery.

 

[MissOrange]

Wow! Impressive!
I have been good. Been to a plastic surgeon to ask regarding my eyes but it seems that surgery won't help much. Oh well...
I will wait till I can go back to SK again to consult Dr Seo.

Dr Seo is the best for revision des and if he can help you that would be wonderful. I had 4 UK upper lid blephs before Dr Seo operated on my eyes 4 years ago. My eyes have no evidence of having had more than 1 eyelid op now.

 

[Phoenix123]

@Phoenix123 I was thinking you are willing to spend £10k on threads in Singapore when for half that £5.6k +£85 hospital covid test +£250 consult you could have had breast FT with lower body lipo in the UK? No brainer to me which is the better bargain. And David never told me to remove my underwear at consult or at the hospital in paper knickers for photos and marking.

It's ok to be jealous. I spent ages being jealous of ladies who got a full anchor lift and nipples at 17 cms vs my failed lift and sag at 22 cm nipples.

Here are my thighs today on day 12. My right thigh is now fine but my left inner upper thigh is wrinkly from lipo. Sigh. I shall wait the full 3 months as lipo takes this long for full recovery.

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@MissOrange , I only had my explant+FT here in SG bc of Covid. I think I did mention (or maybe not, can't remember, lol) that I was scheduled to have surgery with David Floyd in April but couldn't go.

The money is one thing, but another issue is post-op care. I live here and have FT help here as well as my husband and friends to look in on me and take care of me. But I do want to go where the best is, medically. I do need another FT, a mini one only, to my upper poles. I may very well go David Floyd this time, assuming everything is ok Covid-wise. I wonder if he could do that with mild sedation rather than GA...hmm...

Sagging face-wise, I am more and more impressed by Dr Dominic Bray. If I have no choice but to have a FL, I think I will go with him.

 

[cherrykiss]

6 months ago, I had: 1) Fat graft all over face to fill hollowness around eyes and cheeks and 2) Thread lift for slightly sagging jowls w/ 8 threads each side. I think 30-40% of the fat has been absorbed. Soon after fat graft, pockets of fat appeared on each side of mouth which reduced with time. Now, left chin is indented slightly--that's the side I sleep on sometimes--and there are lines & lumps near both sides of my mouth. Plus, skin near mouth looks slightly lumpy. What is the best fix?

Fat Graft for face 1x can fade REALLY fast for most patients. My first one was pretty much a throwaway too Unfortunately it really does take at least 2x to make the fat stick. You can also follow MissOrange's plan of putting on a little weight to increase blood flow to your fat.

Fat that is placed around the corners of your mouth are also more likely to fade faster because we move our mouths so much (eating, talking, etc). Areas like your forehead are better at holding onto fat (compared to mouth). My doctor injected a TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENY weeny bit of botox into my forehead as well right after to help keep it still.

 

[Mazikeen]

Fat Graft for face 1x can fade REALLY fast for most patients. My first one was pretty much a throwaway too Unfortunately it really does take at least 2x to make the fat stick. You can also follow MissOrange's plan of putting on a little weight to increase blood flow to your fat.

Fat that is placed around the corners of your mouth are also more likely to fade faster because we move our mouths so much (eating, talking, etc). Areas like your forehead are better at holding onto fat (compared to mouth). My doctor injected a TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENY weeny bit of botox into my forehead as well right after to help keep it still.

Thanks @cherrykiss. Lmao,that was a random patient on RS who had posted her pics and was asking for advise.

 

[MissOrange]

Day 13. Omg! My bigger bras arrived. I tried on the 30dd and the cup was too small! So I tried on the 32e which is the sister to the 30f suggested by the M&S website and it fits like a glove! No side spillage, full coverage and no loose straps! Seeing is believing. Peanuts and avocados, protein and fat, are keeping my fat cells happy! I have gone from a 32c to 32e!!! I am back to Dolly Parton boobs. Sigh and I just wanted a full c or small d. Oh well, I can always shrink them a bit if I lose weight.

 

[Mazikeen]

@MissOrange , I only had my explant+FT here in SG bc of Covid. I think I did mention (or maybe not, can't remember, lol) that I was scheduled to have surgery with David Floyd in April but couldn't go.

The money is one thing, but another issue is post-op care. I live here and have FT help here as well as my husband and friends to look in on me and take care of me. But I do want to go where the best is, medically. I do need another FT, a mini one only, to my upper poles. I may very well go David Floyd this time, assuming everything is ok Covid-wise. I wonder if he could do that with mild sedation rather than GA...hmm...

Sagging face-wise, I am more and more impressed by Dr Dominic Bray. If I have no choice but to have a FL, I think I will go with him.

Dr. Bray's work is impressive, the incisions are barely visible. Have you seen anyone IRL who had FL from him?


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[Mazikeen]

Day 13. Omg! My bigger bras arrived. I tried on the 30dd and the cup was too small! So I tried on the 32e which is the sister to the 30f suggested by the M&S website and it fits like a glove! No side spillage, full coverage and no loose straps! Seeing is believing. Peanuts and avocados, protein and fat, are keeping my fat cells happy! I have gone from a 32c to 32e!!! I am back to Dolly Parton boobs. Sigh and I just wanted a full c or small d. Oh well, I can always shrink them a bit if I lose weight.

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Dolly Parton though? You need 6 more rounds of FT to get to her cleavage. The bra is cute.

 

[Phoenix123]

Dr. Bray's work is impressive, the incisions are barely visible. Have you seen anyone IRL who had FL from him?


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Agreed. I personally don't know anyone IRL. I'd love to hear from anyone who's had a FL done by Dr Bray.

 

[MissOrange]

Dolly Parton though? You need 6 more rounds of FT to get to her cleavage. The bra is cute.

LOL @Mazikeen no way do I want Dolly’s boobs says I as I am typing and munching on chocolate coated peanuts. With the bra on, my chest sticks out well beyond 34 inches which now makes my figure top heavy. I guess one can never predict exactly what bra size FT will leave you but it is good to know that eating high fat with protein is helping make it stick. I watched Skin Decisions on Netflix and the Beverly Hills surgeon advised protein and sugar for the first week after breast FT! I think I ate everything during the first week, sugary doughnuts, ice cream, croissants, chicken, salmon, McDonald’s big mac and fries, etc. As one is eating +++ after breast FT, it is vital one is under one’s ideal weight for the procedure else one can easily become overweight postop with all the extra fat calories. The good news is that as my bmi was closer to 18 on the day of the op, the fat that was harvested was resistant and to total 320 ccs, that is a lot of tiny stubborn fat cells. These small stubborn fat cells are now expanding in their new home so 320 ccs of fat can easily appear a lot more. I never wore any support bra postop to allow the fat cells to continue to expand. I shall try to stay at 100 lbs now. Had I managed to get my weight down to 96 lbs on the day of the op, then I could maintain at 97-98 lbs but as I could only get down to 99.4 lbs, I cannot go below 99 lbs.

 

[MissOrange]

Agreed. I personally don't know anyone IRL. I'd love to hear from anyone who's had a FL done by Dr Bray.

@Phoenix123 I follow Bray on IG and some results I like, like on his sister but I did not like the one on an Asian female. There is a Korean FL surgeon who follows Bray on IG who has good results, Dr Park Dongman. I think for asian faces, we need to find an asian plastic surgeon, ideally in Asia. That said I like Dr Andrew Jacono’s FL on Dr Paul Nassif. Dr Nassif had a very natural facelift by Jacono. Dr Kremer seems hit and miss. There is a fab result on a lady on realself but not consistently in others. I liked Dr Kirk’s results on his computer at Namu but we don’t have long term results. The best way is to find up to 3 former patients of a FL surgeon to chat with and ideally to see F2F.

 

[Phoenix123]

Day 13. Omg! My bigger bras arrived. I tried on the 30dd and the cup was too small! So I tried on the 32e which is the sister to the 30f suggested by the M&S website and it fits like a glove! No side spillage, full coverage and no loose straps! Seeing is believing. Peanuts and avocados, protein and fat, are keeping my fat cells happy! I have gone from a 32c to 32e!!! I am back to Dolly Parton boobs. Sigh and I just wanted a full c or small d. Oh well, I can always shrink them a bit if I lose weight.

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They look freaking FANTASTIC!! they will definitely go down if you lose weight. Part of my shrinkage is that I've lost like 2-3lbs since the op. Yes, the opposite of what is supposed to happen. Your swelling will still go down further too, as I am sure you know.

 

[Phoenix123]

@Phoenix123 I follow Bray on IG and some results I like, like on his sister but I did not like the one on an Asian female. There is a Korean FL surgeon who follows Bray on IG who has good results, Dr Park Dongman. I think for asian faces, we need to find an asian plastic surgeon, ideally in Asia. That said I like Dr Andrew Jacono’s FL on Dr Paul Nassif. Dr Nassif had a very natural facelift by Jacono. Dr Kremer seems hit and miss. There is a fab result on a lady on realself but not consistently in others. I liked Dr Kirk’s results on his computer at Namu but we don’t have long term results. The best way is to find up to 3 former patients of a FL surgeon to chat with and ideally to see F2F.

I will check them out. Thank you.

Very good point about Asian faces vs Western ones. Which one is Dr Bray's Asian one? I looked through his IG a/c and couldn't find it. ETA: is it the one posted on March 26th?

Also, how to approach a surgeon's former patients? I guess on their reviews on Realself?

 

[MissOrange]

I realised that I couldn't have a mini thigh lift 13 days after breast FT as I am not allowed to lie on my stomach and a crescent thigh lift involves operating on me while on my stomach and on my back! Also it takes 3 months for thigh lipo to settle so it is good I cancelled my mini thigh lift with Dr O in Belgium for now. I can revisit in 3 months as to whether my thighs still need a mini thigh lift. It is really difficult sleeping on one's back as I usually sleep on my side. I had a look at my daily facial FT photos and my facial swelling went down with the bruising around day 12. I am hoping my breasts have deswelled as my back and thighs do not feel swollen anymore and my bruises have almost all disappeared.

 

[MissOrange]

I will check them out. Thank you.

Very good point about Asian faces vs Western ones. Which one is Dr Bray's Asian one? I looked through his IG a/c and couldn't find it. ETA: is it the one posted on March 26th?

Also, how to approach a surgeon's former patients? I guess on their reviews on Realself?

Here is the Korean FL surgeon. He films his happy patients post facelift. See how natural his Asian patients look, like younger versions.

I chatted with regen and girin zygoma patients on kakao, ig private messaging, or whatsapp. You have to reach out to chat privately for their frank opinions.