@MissOrange how much fat did they transfer to each breast? I'm going under the knife for a mastopexy in under a month and they are transfering 80-100 cc of fat to each one.
How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.
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Hi @NewMe83 thank you for reading my posts and for your kind words. Wow you had v line at View! View is a very impressive hospital. However it looks like with bone contouring surgery it speeds up sagging due to loss of bone mass. This means needing a lifting procedure whether it be by threads or smas.
I met Mr Jan Stanek's 60 yo nurse in person at his clinic in London who had an invisible smas FL. The incision was made in her ear canal! She looked 30s. Alas he has now retired as he is 70. He was my primary plastic surgeon from my 30s to 40s. I had planned on going to him for his incredible smas but forgot he is older than I am so missed the boat.
Sadly I have met one lady who had a smas FL by a current well known UK plastic surgeon but it did not last beyond a few years. I did not ask to see her scars as it was obvious the FL had failed. This too scared me off as her face now looked worse as the skin now sags even more.
A 52 yo Asian American tried ASPS clinic in Seoul for her smas FL. She wrote a thread of her experience on this site. Her result looks good but no annual update on longevity.
I think Dr Jacono does the best as his are more natural and he did Dr Paul Nassif. But he is in NYC so probably super expensive.
As you also live in London happy to meet up with you for coffee and a chat on our mutual plastic surgery interest.
Hi @Tremere, David Floyd put 145 ccs in the left breast and 175 ccs in the smaller right breast to even them out.
Do you know what kind of mastopexy? Remember to insist on the full anchor lift and not the mini periareolar donut lift that does not work and will make your nipples sag and sit very low.
Today marks 3 weeks since my breast FT with harvesting fat from my flanks, thighs and knees. I put together a collage of my b+a back of thighs cellulite. Not only did David Floyd harvest fat but he also smoothed out the skin and got rid of the cellulite! I just have one area of loose upper thigh skin on my left thigh that I have wrapped with pink sport kinesiology tape in hopes it tightens up the skin. My breasts are still full. No need to inundate you with more breast selfies so here is one of the back of my thighs. Incredible to think I have now had my left thigh liposuctioned 8 times and my right 7 times. I am done with liposuction and breast ops.
Today is the 4 week mark post breast FT with lipo. All is well. I meet laser dermatologist Dr A Hussein on Wednesday for my areola scars and then I am caught up.
Played tennis and noticed how thin my thighs are now to match my skinny arms. I spray Garnier tan on my legs for that healthy glow and am wearing Farrah's Nike Cortez but with a pink stripe and instead of ankle socks am wearing trendy hidden shoe liners that make my legs look a tad longer. Would love to have the super long legs of k pop singers but realise most have great legs as they are simply taller. At 157 cms I can never be any taller. Here I am next to iconic Farrah and thought body sorted but my dry, damaged blonde hair needs fixing.
I then found a new international Brazilian hair stylist who has just opened his salon local to me! He did hair shows in Seoul, NY and Dubai! He said in Seoul, Koreans do not want to dye their black hair but want perms or straightening. He is an expert in hair colouring, Brazilian keratin perms and straightening. Great hair and hair colouring are like plastic surgery as it can also make you look younger! No one can guess my true age from my hair! I am going to get weekly blowdries from him as he leaves my hair super silky and fine! Incredible.
Played tennis and noticed how thin my thighs are now to match my skinny arms. I spray Garnier tan on my legs for that healthy glow and am wearing Farrah's Nike Cortez but with a pink stripe and instead of ankle socks am wearing trendy hidden shoe liners that make my legs look a tad longer. Would love to have the super long legs of k pop singers but realise most have great legs as they are simply taller. At 157 cms I can never be any taller. Here I am next to iconic Farrah and thought body sorted but my dry, damaged blonde hair needs fixing.
I then found a new international Brazilian hair stylist who has just opened his salon local to me! He did hair shows in Seoul, NY and Dubai! He said in Seoul, Koreans do not want to dye their black hair but want perms or straightening. He is an expert in hair colouring, Brazilian keratin perms and straightening. Great hair and hair colouring are like plastic surgery as it can also make you look younger! No one can guess my true age from my hair! I am going to get weekly blowdries from him as he leaves my hair super silky and fine! Incredible.
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Have you ever heard of hyperdiluted radiesse to build collagen and tighten thighs, stomach and face?
Hello, Just wondering if anyone knows how promotions and discounts work in Korea. I got a couple of quotes from clinics and many of them offered a % of discount if you make a deposit before a certain time. I'm sure these types of promotions come by all the time, but how you do keep up with it? They don't seem to post anything on their websites. It would be my first time going to Korea for surgery so I have no clue how it works. Thank you.
No I haven‘t @Teina. Mind you radiesse shows up on x ray as calcification so not sure this is a good idea for thighs and stomach. I would only recommend for the nasolabial folds as the maxilla regresses with age.
Hi @highbutterfly, Korean plastic surgery clinics are all about haggling. They want to know your budget. If you can show quotes from 2 other clinics, then you have bargaining power with the third. Yes you can negotiate by saying yes you can use my photos on social media, I shall write a review in forums, I can pay cash or I can schedule an op for tomorrow, etc. They give even bigger discounts if they need a Western model. Be prepared to walk away and you may be recontacted with a lower quote. But if the clinic has lots of doctors and you pay too little, then you may end up with the junior doctor so best to know what is fair and what is too cheap a price.
I have now completed my research on breast fat transfer as a safe and excellent alternative to silicone implants.
For up to 100% retention, it looks like a postop weight gain of 7 lbs may be necessary. It seems that both an Asian Dr Bednar patient (@journey2boobs) on RS and a British patient of Dr David Floyd gained 7 lbs post breast FT for full retention after the 3 month mark. 3 months is when the transferred fat cells seem to be permanent.
Lumps and cysts may be associated with larger volumes of fat transfer, ie 500 ccs+.
Dr B’s Asian patient developed lumps that were still present at 1 year and others required draining of cysts.
Who is good at breast FT?
There are several surgeons in USA who have happy patients so do join the fat transfer to breast FB group if you are in the US and want to find a surgeon in your state, ie Dr Strawn in California, Dr Bednar in North Carolina and Dr Burns in Texas. Be mindful that transfer of large volumes may include tumescent fluid so the final result may go down, the cost is as high as $11.5k for the first round alone and there is a real risk of cysts and lumps with larger volumes. The surgeons may also be clinic based and not hospital based so your price may include a nurse anaesthetist and may not include a doctor anaesthetist. There is an ongoing debate whether a nurse is as good as a doctor in administering anaesthesia. I won’t go into it.
In the U.K., I can personally recommend Dr David Floyd at £5.6k at the Wellington (+£85 covid swab test preop +£250 consult fee) or £4.7k at the Highgate Hospital or Bushey Spire. He operates from different hospitals. He limits fat transfer to 200 ccs a breast to minimise risks of lumps or cysts. If you have asymmetry, tuberous defects or just want to go up a cup size, then 200 ccs is more than enough. I had 145 ccs and 175 ccs to correct asymmetry and a type 1 tuberous defect and went up from 32c to 32e. I am now at 5.5 weeks and still a 32e cup. I am force feeding myself fat and protein daily and trying to maintain a weight above 99.4 lbs which is hard to do as I have fast metabolism. I have 6.5 weeks more to go to hit the 3 month mark for permanency.
I have not researched the plastic surgeons in Europe for breast FT but no doubt there will be some good surgeons in Germany and Belgium.
In Korea, Dr Hong of Fresh clinic is the most well known for breast FT at 4.4 million won (price January 2020) but he administers his own IV cocktail so there is no separate anaesthetic doctor. His results look good on realself (@ahgah). For those outside Korea, factor in the cost of flights, 2 week quarantine hotel, hotel during recovery, paying up to 200,000 won extra for a compression garment and meds as these are not included in the price of surgery. For those in Asia and on a budget, Dr Hong works out to be the cheapest and best option.
For up to 100% retention, it looks like a postop weight gain of 7 lbs may be necessary. It seems that both an Asian Dr Bednar patient (@journey2boobs) on RS and a British patient of Dr David Floyd gained 7 lbs post breast FT for full retention after the 3 month mark. 3 months is when the transferred fat cells seem to be permanent.
Lumps and cysts may be associated with larger volumes of fat transfer, ie 500 ccs+.
Dr B’s Asian patient developed lumps that were still present at 1 year and others required draining of cysts.
Who is good at breast FT?
There are several surgeons in USA who have happy patients so do join the fat transfer to breast FB group if you are in the US and want to find a surgeon in your state, ie Dr Strawn in California, Dr Bednar in North Carolina and Dr Burns in Texas. Be mindful that transfer of large volumes may include tumescent fluid so the final result may go down, the cost is as high as $11.5k for the first round alone and there is a real risk of cysts and lumps with larger volumes. The surgeons may also be clinic based and not hospital based so your price may include a nurse anaesthetist and may not include a doctor anaesthetist. There is an ongoing debate whether a nurse is as good as a doctor in administering anaesthesia. I won’t go into it.
In the U.K., I can personally recommend Dr David Floyd at £5.6k at the Wellington (+£85 covid swab test preop +£250 consult fee) or £4.7k at the Highgate Hospital or Bushey Spire. He operates from different hospitals. He limits fat transfer to 200 ccs a breast to minimise risks of lumps or cysts. If you have asymmetry, tuberous defects or just want to go up a cup size, then 200 ccs is more than enough. I had 145 ccs and 175 ccs to correct asymmetry and a type 1 tuberous defect and went up from 32c to 32e. I am now at 5.5 weeks and still a 32e cup. I am force feeding myself fat and protein daily and trying to maintain a weight above 99.4 lbs which is hard to do as I have fast metabolism. I have 6.5 weeks more to go to hit the 3 month mark for permanency.
I have not researched the plastic surgeons in Europe for breast FT but no doubt there will be some good surgeons in Germany and Belgium.
In Korea, Dr Hong of Fresh clinic is the most well known for breast FT at 4.4 million won (price January 2020) but he administers his own IV cocktail so there is no separate anaesthetic doctor. His results look good on realself (@ahgah). For those outside Korea, factor in the cost of flights, 2 week quarantine hotel, hotel during recovery, paying up to 200,000 won extra for a compression garment and meds as these are not included in the price of surgery. For those in Asia and on a budget, Dr Hong works out to be the cheapest and best option.
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For those with asymmetric breasts, tubular defects, explant loss of breast tissue, or just want to go up a cup size or 2 naturally, breast fat transfer works! Here is my 5.5 week update. I have 6.5 more weeks of a diet high in fat and protein to go for permanency. From stuffing a 32c bra with 2 pairs of sports socks to wearing a 32e bra with no sports socks! By keeping transfer volumes below 200 ccs a side, David Floyd has reduced the risk of lumps or cysts. I have no lumps or cysts, just soft natural full breasts. You can then expand the transplanted fat cells by upping your fat intake. I was a 34 DD cup with unsafe silicone implants and now a 32 E cup with my own autologous fat! No brainer, fat transfer wins!
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Yesterday I had my first ever laser treatment with London's top laser dermatologist Dr Asif Hussein. The pain level varied between 2 and 6 with an average of 4 out of 10. He also zapped the cherry angiomas in the area for free! He then injected intradermally into the hypertrophic surgical scars with kenalog 40. At £450 a pop, I cannot afford a second round so will rely on just steroid injections in future if needed. I have been reading that steroid injections are the first line treatment for hypertrophic scars as they do respond more so than keloids.
The scars look a bit charred when I looked at home as one would expect from laser, so I applied some topical bacitracin and zinc ointment. Fingers crossed it works. My theory is my body developed hypertrophic scars as all the tension of the pursestring sutures of a periareolar mini lift was around the areola and not supported by a vertical incision of a full anchor lift. I would strongly advise against the periareolar donut lift as it has left me with low positioned nipples (nipple sag) and breast sag after deswelling. The breast sag has lifted some with volume from breast FT thankfully but still left with nipples positioned too low.
No wonder the clinic staff did not believe my age of 54 looking at my selfie. Instead of going into detail of how I rejuvenated my face, I just said Asian genes. lol.
The scars look a bit charred when I looked at home as one would expect from laser, so I applied some topical bacitracin and zinc ointment. Fingers crossed it works. My theory is my body developed hypertrophic scars as all the tension of the pursestring sutures of a periareolar mini lift was around the areola and not supported by a vertical incision of a full anchor lift. I would strongly advise against the periareolar donut lift as it has left me with low positioned nipples (nipple sag) and breast sag after deswelling. The breast sag has lifted some with volume from breast FT thankfully but still left with nipples positioned too low.
No wonder the clinic staff did not believe my age of 54 looking at my selfie. Instead of going into detail of how I rejuvenated my face, I just said Asian genes. lol.
Wow. They look amazing. You are so petite btw.
Please avoid Turkey. The surgery results are horrendous. Most of the pics you see on their IG or websites are photoshopped or stock photos. There was a girl from the UK on reddit who went for Breast reduction there and is now in ICU with blood poisoning. Her incisions became infected and tissue necrotic. She will need a mastectomy. So many botched rhinoplasties too. Avoid at all costs.
Omg amazing. He even smoothed out the scar tissue from previous lipos which is very difficult.
Haha, yes, keep them guessing. Then start a beauty product line and tell them that is what you use. People will buy coz you look fantastic. Look how successful Rihanna is with her makeup and skin products atm. People purchase coz her skin looks amazing.
@Mazikeen Had I known breast FT would sculpt my lower body too, I would have booked the surgery last year! I was so worried about lumps, oil cysts, fat necrosis that I kept putting off breast FT. But in good surgical hands and with smaller volumes, these risks are close to zero. Even my flanks are now smooth at 6 weeks which makes my bum look better! Before I had love handle bulges when wearing tangas but now the contour is younger! I like looking younger! Lol. I had to cover up the underwear as I realised I put it on inside out! Dead giveaway I am actually an old lady who needs better glasses! Lol. Who would guess my backside belongs to a 54 year old! To think I thought I was knock kneed until David pointed out I had fat in my medial knees! After he removed the fat in my knees and fat in my upper inner thighs, the shape of my medial thighs is now straighter and more importantly...younger! Lol.
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OMG that is awful. Poor lady. I just learned that the most affordable U.K. surgeon for explant is Dr Vik Vijh in Birmingham! I saw him on a plastic surgery tv show for something else and was really impressed. He only charges £3200 while other U.K. surgeons are charging over £5k.
I just saw a photo of Demi Moore in Vanity Fair at age 57 from July. I feel so sorry for her. She needs facial FT to volumise her face. I wish I could take her to Korea with me, lol. It really is sad how ageing causes loss of facial bone structure, loss of facial volume and skin sagging. If she cut her hair, got a curtain fringe and shaped a bob around her face, it would soften her jawline. Even sadder thinking of all the young girls who get extreme v line in Korea which removes a lot of jawbone and then may need to pay more for smas lift every 5 years or annual threadlifts. I shudder to think of how little jawbone they will have in their 50s. I am holding off on smas facelift as it is very unpredictable as to how one will look after the skin and smas layer are trimmed, pulled and sutured back. There is no going back from a bad facelift!
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