How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

[MissOrange]

He did an amazing job. Did he do the lipo under sedation or GA?

Hi @Mazikeen the lipo was done under GA to harvest fat for the breast fat transfer.

I won't be getting a second round of laser treatment for my hypertrophic scars as recovery is traumatic! My scars look black and red like a laser burn! I have to question why I paid for laser. I had no idea about this kind of recovery. I miss my pink scars! It is day 3 and my scars look worse than before laser. Sigh. I have my postop review with David in 3 days time. What do I say to him? He will ask me why I went to a dermatologist for laser treatment instead of ask him for surgical scar excision.

I pray my skin heals. I do not recommend laser. Even the derm nurse asked me why I was going for laser first. I never thought laser would burn my skin. So naive.

I should have read this cautionary tale first on laser. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-ne...p.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

 

[Mazikeen]

Hi @Mazikeen the lipo was done under GA to harvest fat for the breast fat transfer.

I won't be getting a second round of laser treatment for my hypertrophic scars as recovery is traumatic! My scars look black and red like a laser burn! I have to question why I paid for laser. I had no idea about this kind of recovery. I miss my pink scars! It is day 3 and my scars look worse than before laser. Sigh. I have my postop review with David in 3 days time. What do I say to him? He will ask me why I went to a dermatologist for laser treatment instead of ask him for surgical scar excision.

I pray my skin heals. I do not recommend laser. Even the derm nurse asked me why I was going for laser first. I never thought laser would burn my skin. So naive.

I should have read this cautionary tale first on laser. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-ne...p.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Omg. So sorry to hear that. The results on his IG are impressive. I think they are just scabs and after it heals you'll see an improvement. Give it another 2 weeks. Apply a thick cream like Eucerin original healing cream to speed up the process. What type of laser did he use?

 

[MissOrange]

Omg. So sorry to hear that. The results on his IG are impressive. I think they are just scabs and after it heals you'll see an improvement. Give it another 2 weeks. Apply a thick cream like Eucerin original healing cream to speed up the process. What type of laser did he use?

Hi @Mazikeen, I hope so. But when the skin sloughed off with jagged edges and oozed fluid and left exposed raw flesh and other parts looked charred black, I thought this is more a second degree burn. He must not have registered when I said I had decreased sensation in my nipples, ie areola skin too, after failed donut lift and revision. He kept asking me to tell him how painful it was as he dialled up the laser but I could not feel much and kept saying 2 or 3 out of 10, and he said he needed it to be 5-7 to be working so he kept dialling it up but I could not say 7 as I could not feel it! I shudder to think of how much my scar was burned as I could not gauge the pain level with reduced to nil sensation. I have no idea which laser he used as I got nothing in writing. No consultation summary. No invoice. No letter for my GP. No after care sheet. No evidence I had any procedure done as appointments were texted by his PA and the receipt was a clinic credit card receipt! And when I emailed him, he only replied that his PA will get back to me. In fact he gave me no written evidence I had any procedure! I then looked him up on the GMC website and he has not completed any specialty training so is not a board certified doctor in any specialty, not even dermatology! Had I known this, I would not have chosen him but rather gone to a board certified consultant dermatologist. Someone has also mentioned Manuka honey and aloe vera. I also took doxycycline as it looked like the burst blister was infected as the skin around was painful, red and spreading. I have added Manuka honey to my online groceries. They don’t sell aloe vera though. I have tried bacitracin ointment with zinc, hydrocortisone cream, sudocrem which helps as it has a mild anaesthetic too, bio oil and tomorrow Manuka. I fell for his IG ad and did not do due diligence. I forgot to find past patients who had similar procedures done by him to ask for their experiences.

I see my board certified plastic surgeon David on Wednesday for my breast FT postop review, so can have him check over my laser burns. Remember folks, forget laser. Go with kenalog steroid injections by a board certified dermatologist if you have hypertrophic scars which are far more common than keloid scars. They even say that hypertrophic scars usually resolve on their own by 2 years and that a burn can cause a hypertrophic scar! I should have waited it out with my scars rather than go for something this extreme. Dr H’s nurse did try to warn me asking me why I was going for laser which is extreme and that my scars were not that bad to begin with. I did not know what she meant by extreme. Now I know!

 

[MissOrange]

Great news! The US FDA has issued a black box warning on breast implants! Hope young ladies flying to Korea for breast implants read the warning! The fda declares it is NOT a life long device and requires regular screening for ruptures, initially 5-6 years post implantation then every 2-3 years forever while in situ, that surgeons issue cards with details of the implant inserted and of the risk of anaplastic large cell lymphoma cancer. How many naive young ladies getting implants know this?

Opt instead for breast fat transfer augmentation.

OMG I learned that laser CAN cause fat atrophy! Aargh! Why did I get laser to my periareolar scars after breast FT?! I even asked Dr H before the procedure if laser would affect my fat graft and he said no it could cause skin atrophy, not fat atrophy but surgeons says otherwise! OMG this board certified plastic surgeon says fat loss from laser can continue for weeks or months and the treatment is to replace fat with fat transfer!!! But I have stupidly done the opposite and got fat transfer first then laser! https://www.cosmeticsurg.net/blog/why-laser-resurfacing-can-cause-facial-fat-loss/#:~:text=Why?,injected into the subcutaneous layer.

FDA finalizes black box warning for breast implants

The term "breast implant illness," which one industry group decried as not used in clinical practice, appears multiple times throughout the agency's document but not in its example boxed warning.

www.medtechdive.com

 

[Beautsy]

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[missy_sana]

Great news! The US FDA has issued a black box warning on breast implants! Hope young ladies flying to Korea for breast implants read the warning! The fda declares it is NOT a life long device and requires regular screening for ruptures, initially 5-6 years post implantation then every 2-3 years forever while in situ, that surgeons issue cards with details of the implant inserted and of the risk of anaplastic large cell lymphoma cancer. How many naive young ladies getting implants know this?

Opt instead for breast fat transfer augmentation.

OMG I learned that laser CAN cause fat atrophy! Aargh! Why did I get laser to my periareolar scars after breast FT?! I even asked Dr H before the procedure if laser would affect my fat graft and he said no it could cause skin atrophy, not fat atrophy but surgeons says otherwise! OMG this board certified plastic surgeon says fat loss from laser can continue for weeks or months and the treatment is to replace fat with fat transfer!!! But I have stupidly done the opposite and got fat transfer first then laser! https://www.cosmeticsurg.net/blog/why-laser-resurfacing-can-cause-facial-fat-loss/#:~:text=Why?,injected into the subcutaneous layer.

FDA finalizes black box warning for breast implants

The term "breast implant illness," which one industry group decried as not used in clinical practice, appears multiple times throughout the agency's document but not in its example boxed warning.

www.medtechdive.com

LOL, the FDA sure took its sweet a** time to warn us this. But I think alot of naive ladies would still go for implants anyway (breasts, butt, nose, whatever) even if they were alerted to the risk of death warning, just because their deep insecurities are strong enough to override their rational mind, AND they can't bring themselves to say "No" even when the gut instinct kicks in.

A close friend recently said they wanted to get a nose job at ID Hospital, and I was like "Hell No! Have you ever searched the PS forums? Or are you that ignorant? Or did you make an impulse decision based on a couple of ID sponsored Youtuber vlogs? Biatch, just don't go to Seoul without ME !!"

Luckily, I have Miss Orange and countless other botched implant users to thank for sharing their stories, otherwise I would've renewed my guinea-pig club membership with two holes on my chest, or two deflated sacks at the most.

I really appreciate the experiences that you openly shared, but I sincerely wish that you could've done more to research and be in control of avoiding your misfortunes, given your medical background. It frustrates me to see a friend and ex-doctor at the mercy of conmen like Asif who can get away with lack of professional credentials in London just like Hong @ Fresh in Korea. And whyyyyyyy would skin atrophy seem more acceptable than fat atrophy? Because either would be a warning bell already.

We all need self-love, self-control and due diligence more than plastic surgery itself.

Sigh! Now I need to justify having spent over £100 today for my health sake = £55 for a 7-day blood replenishment remedy + £66 on a jar of 120 herbal hair loss capsules. Feeling swindled? Ouch, yes. But it's not surgery, right?

 

[Mazikeen]

Hi @Mazikeen, I hope so. But when the skin sloughed off with jagged edges and oozed fluid and left exposed raw flesh and other parts looked charred black, I thought this is more a second degree burn. He must not have registered when I said I had decreased sensation in my nipples, ie areola skin too, after failed donut lift and revision. He kept asking me to tell him how painful it was as he dialled up the laser but I could not feel much and kept saying 2 or 3 out of 10, and he said he needed it to be 5-7 to be working so he kept dialling it up but I could not say 7 as I could not feel it! I shudder to think of how much my scar was burned as I could not gauge the pain level with reduced to nil sensation. I have no idea which laser he used as I got nothing in writing. No consultation summary. No invoice. No letter for my GP. No after care sheet. No evidence I had any procedure done as appointments were texted by his PA and the receipt was a clinic credit card receipt! And when I emailed him, he only replied that his PA will get back to me. In fact he gave me no written evidence I had any procedure! I then looked him up on the GMC website and he has not completed any specialty training so is not a board certified doctor in any specialty, not even dermatology! Had I known this, I would not have chosen him but rather gone to a board certified consultant dermatologist. Someone has also mentioned Manuka honey and aloe vera. I also took doxycycline as it looked like the burst blister was infected as the skin around was painful, red and spreading. I have added Manuka honey to my online groceries. They don’t sell aloe vera though. I have tried bacitracin ointment with zinc, hydrocortisone cream, sudocrem which helps as it has a mild anaesthetic too, bio oil and tomorrow Manuka. I fell for his IG ad and did not do due diligence. I forgot to find past patients who had similar procedures done by him to ask for their experiences.

I see my board certified plastic surgeon David on Wednesday for my breast FT postop review, so can have him check over my laser burns. Remember folks, forget laser. Go with kenalog steroid injections by a board certified dermatologist if you have hypertrophic scars which are far more common than keloid scars. They even say that hypertrophic scars usually resolve on their own by 2 years and that a burn can cause a hypertrophic scar! I should have waited it out with my scars rather than go for something this extreme. Dr H’s nurse did try to warn me asking me why I was going for laser which is extreme and that my scars were not that bad to begin with. I did not know what she meant by extreme. Now I know!

That is terrible. Wishing you a speedy recovery. You could try RF Microneedling - I saw some good results on scars. Pico laser is also supposed to be good and is milder than the normal CO2 laser but I don't know how good it is for scars.

 

[MissOrange]

Thank you @Mazikeen and @missy_sana for supporting me through my ups and downs of plastic surgery, the good and the bad.

Today I saw Cambridge graduate board certified consultant plastic surgeon David Floyd in the Wellington hospital and he had to do a double take when he saw how big my breasts were! Lol. He looked my records up to remind himself how much he had put in each breast. I bet he asked himself did I put 320 ccs in each or was that 320 ccs total? Lol. He took postop photos and marvelled at the improved breast shape. He showed me my icky consult photo of asymmetric breasts with a shrunken right tubular breast from back in July! Boy what a difference to my life between July and now!

He kindly examined my periareolar laser burns and confirmed areas had been over aggressively lasered (see photo) and that he would not recommend getting laser and steroid injections at the same time. I had to say yes twice as he couldn’t believe Dr H did both at the same time. He said he had his own laser specialist he recommended to his patients. He reassured me the burns would heal, that I did not need to go to ER and that he could reassess the scars in 3 months and excise and close with nonabsorbable prolene sutures (which can be removed before the body reacts).

He had to ask me where the lipo sites were as he could not find any lipo scars! Lol. I told him I removed my sutures after 24 hours and let the sites heal by secondary intention which left no scars. I have added photos of my lipo scars.

He said his phone has been ringing off the hook after I posted my photos on social media. Lol. He said they keep referring to the lady who posted her photos from the morning of her surgery for breast FT. Well he deserves the business as he truly is the UK’s own Dr B for autologous fat transfer. With a US travel ban with no end in sight, ladies have to research within the U.K. or Europe. And David works out cheaper! £250 consult, £5670 operation with GA in a private hospital or £900 less in his outlier hospitals and £85 hospital covid swab test.

Here is today’s photo. Yay I fit a 32e bra again and I now have a back up plan to sort out my laser fried areola scars.

 

[Mazikeen]

Thank you @Mazikeen and @missy_sana for supporting me through my ups and downs of plastic surgery, the good and the bad.

Today I saw Cambridge graduate board certified consultant plastic surgeon David Floyd in the Wellington hospital and he had to do a double take when he saw how big my breasts were! Lol. He looked my records up to remind himself how much he had put in each breast. I bet he asked himself did I put 320 ccs in each or was that 320 ccs total? Lol. He took postop photos and marvelled at the improved breast shape. He showed me my icky consult photo of asymmetric breasts with a shrunken right tubular breast from back in July! Boy what a difference to my life between July and now!

He kindly examined my periareolar laser burns and confirmed areas had been over aggressively lasered (see photo) and that he would not recommend getting laser and steroid injections at the same time. I had to say yes twice as he couldn’t believe Dr H did both at the same time. He said he had his own laser specialist he recommended to his patients. He reassured me the burns would heal, that I did not need to go to ER and that he could reassess the scars in 3 months and excise and close with nonabsorbable prolene sutures (which can be removed before the body reacts).

He had to ask me where the lipo sites were as he could not find any lipo scars! Lol. I told him I removed my sutures after 24 hours and let the sites heal by secondary intention which left no scars. I have added photos of my lipo scars.

He said his phone has been ringing off the hook after I posted my photos on social media. Lol. He said they keep referring to the lady who posted her photos from the morning of her surgery for breast FT. Well he deserves the business as he truly is the UK’s own Dr B for autologous fat transfer. With a US travel ban with no end in sight, ladies have to research within the U.K. or Europe. And David works out cheaper! £250 consult, £5670 operation with GA in a private hospital or £900 less in his outlier hospitals and £85 hospital covid swab test.

Here is today’s photo. Yay I fit a 32e bra again and I now have a back up plan to sort out my laser fried areola scars.

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The boobies look fantastic. You've been feeding them well, lol, no wonder he did a double take. Wow, the laser scars look nasty. He was definitely too aggressive and the settings were too high for such a sensitive area.

 

[Tremere]

@MissOrange I just got a breast lift with fat transfer done. The place where I got the fat extracted hurts more than the breast lift itself.

 

[MissOrange]

@MissOrange I just got a breast lift with fat transfer done. The place where I got the fat extracted hurts more than the breast lift itself.

Yes @Tremere full lower body liposuction caused me intense aches and pains from days 3-6, so bad I swore I would never have surgery again. Try to get a rx for diclofenac or something stronger than tylenol. Join the liposuction and fat transfer FB groups. You can follow the healing progress others are going through too.

 

[MissOrange]

On Friday I had had enough of this laser doc Dr Asif Hussein telling me my laser fried areola was normal so I sent a photo to my NHS GP (no face to face due to covid) and he prescribed augmentin antibiotics and said he would refer me to the Chelsea and Westminster hospital burns unit. I sent Dr H the same photo and his reply was it was normal. I sent more and still his reply was it was fine!!!

I was so mad I headed straight for Chelsea and Westminster A&E Friday afternoon as this was where all burns referrals get sent from most of London. I saw the A&E nurse who confirmed it was a burn and rang their burns unit who gave me a Monday morning urgent burns clinic appointment. She said to wait as she also wanted plastics to see me as she said she used to work in breast surgery and she was very worried. Then the male A&E doctor saw me and he was shocked and wanted the breast surgeons to see me immediately and sent me to Charing Cross hospital but by the time I got there (massive traffic jam) the breast team had left by 5 pm. The surgeon on call examined me, told me it was not fine, that it was a burn, took my number and passed it on to the plastics on call to arrange an appointment with plastics clinic for next week.

Yesterday I rang my GP surgery for a rx for silvadene burn cream now that an A&E nurse, my GP and A&E doctor had all confirmed burn injury but the surgery was closed on weekends so I headed for my local A&E at St Thomas'. The A&E triage nurse looked and said they did not have a burns unit and that all burns went to ChelWest. I said I just want silvadene cream and burn dressings. So I got to see the A&E doctor who examined me and contacted the plastics SHO on call. She saw me on the multispecialty assessment unit for a non healing wound and she examined me and said it was a burn and cleaned and dressed it with strips of duoderm. She said I would get a call to my mobile with a plastics clinic appointment for next week.

So in total 5 doctors and 3 nurses all confirmed I had a laser burn vs the laser doc insisted it was fine.

Here is what Dr Asif Hussein, the laser doc from Skin Clinic said.



I also joined a burns survivor FB group as I figured real burns victims would also know what a third degree burn looked like and here is their verdict. This all coincides with what my Cambridge med school graduate consultant breast FT plastic surgeon David Floyd called it an overly aggressive laser and not advisable to do steroid injections simultaneously when he saw it on Wednesday. David had told me it would take 3 months to heal!!!

 

[Mazikeen]

On Friday I had had enough of this laser doc Dr Asif Hussein telling me my laser fried areola was normal so I sent a photo to my NHS GP (no face to face due to covid) and he prescribed augmentin antibiotics and said he would refer me to the Chelsea and Westminster hospital burns unit. I sent Dr H the same photo and his reply was it was normal. I sent more and still his reply was it was fine!!!

I was so mad I headed straight for Chelsea and Westminster A&E Friday afternoon as this was where all burns referrals get sent from most of London. I saw the A&E nurse who confirmed it was a burn and rang their burns unit who gave me a Monday morning urgent burns clinic appointment. She said to wait as she also wanted plastics to see me as she said she used to work in breast surgery and she was very worried. Then the male A&E doctor saw me and he was shocked and wanted the breast surgeons to see me immediately and sent me to Charing Cross hospital but by the time I got there (massive traffic jam) the breast team had left by 5 pm. The surgeon on call examined me, told me it was not fine, that it was a burn, took my number and passed it on to the plastics on call to arrange an appointment with plastics clinic for next week.

Yesterday I rang my GP surgery for a rx for silvadene burn cream now that an A&E nurse, my GP and A&E doctor had all confirmed burn injury but the surgery was closed on weekends so I headed for my local A&E at St Thomas'. The A&E triage nurse looked and said they did not have a burns unit and that all burns went to ChelWest. I said I just want silvadene cream and burn dressings. So I got to see the A&E doctor who examined me and contacted the plastics SHO on call. She saw me on the multispecialty assessment unit for a non healing wound and she examined me and said it was a burn and cleaned and dressed it with strips of duoderm. She said I would get a call to my mobile with a plastics clinic appointment for next week.

So in total 5 doctors and 3 nurses all confirmed I had a laser burn vs the laser doc insisted it was fine.

Here is what Dr Asif Hussein, the laser doc from Skin Clinic said.

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I also joined a burns survivor FB group as I figured real burns victims would also know what a third degree burn looked like and here is their verdict. This all coincides with what my Cambridge med school graduate consultant breast FT plastic surgeon David Floyd called it an overly aggressive laser and not advisable to do steroid injections simultaneously when he saw it on Wednesday. David had told me it would take 3 months to heal!!!

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This is serious coz by now a scab should have formed so that the wound under can start healing. Maybe also take some arnica capsules to speed up the healing.

 

[MissOrange]

Hi @Mazikeen, Yes I now have an urgent appointment at 9:30 am at the burns unit clinic at Chelsea and Westminster tomorrow. Here is just a sample of the type of gaslighting Dr Asif Hussein subjected me to instead of tell me the truth, that he had set the laser too high and given me a third degree burn. I shudder to think of the kind of gaslighting that may occur in blacklisted clinics in Korea who may also not take responsibility for their botches.

 

[MissOrange]

This morning I was seen at the Chelsea and Westminster hospital burns unit that accepts referrals from all over London, ie it is the only NHS burns unit in London! And yep the consultant burns specialist confirmed I have a full thickness periareolar laser burn. It was debrided, ie the yellow eschars were excised, the yellow discharge swabbed, the burn dressed and I have been booked for surgery on Thursday under local. I am stressed as I am terrified about more surgery and risk to the nipple areola complex blood supply but the consultant said wound cleaning and closure would speed up recovery else I would face months for the open burn wound to heal and a much bigger periareolar scar! Pray for me!