How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

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Oh my! I will be following your thread closely! I am contemplating arm lipo too! :smile:
Hi @Fortunecat, if Dr O does a fab job, I shall post the exact train schedule to his clinic and link to his wife’s hotel in a castle! 6 more days to go. Am slowly packing my bits and bobs, arnica pillules, paracetamol, tight long sleeve jersey top, slippers, etc. Will be staying at a hotel near Kings Cross so I can check in at 05:15 am for the first Eurostar train to Belgium leaving at 6:13 (2 hours) then local trains. And will pack some sandwiches so I can eat just before 7 am as I have to be nil by mouth for 6 hours before my twilight sedation op at 1 pm. He even does the cheapest facelifts! But one thing at a time. I have printed out an A4 of my expectations. lol
 

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2 days to go until I am back under the knife, and I am reading up on Dr O’s reviews again. OMG he does smas facelifts for only £3900! That is the cheapest in the Western world! The cheapest price in the U.K. is £6.9k under local! I found this review on realself and can’t believe she is 62!!! I have found my facelift surgeon for when I am 60 too! Cheaper than the 13 million won or £10k facelift at asps. He does a combo of fat graft with his smas facelift! Interesting. Wow, he does temple lifts, corner lifts, lip lifts, breast lifts, etc. i.e. an all around plastic surgeon with amazing google reviews. And the good news is that he looks younger than I am so will be around for the next 30 years I hope!
 

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Yay! It's done @Fortunecat! Arm lipo today and here are the results for only £1350 including this fab surgical compression garment and iv twilight sedation and a lovely belgian pastry with coca cola. No pain. Took one paracetamol just for the heck of it. One 62 yo lady flew from Manchester to Belgium for tummy tuck, stayed for 5 days and is thrilled. I took the 6:13 Eurostar this morning and got in 2 hours later, then took some local trains included in the Eurostar ticket to any Belgiam station to arrive at Beveren. Checked in and walked across the street to have my op at 1 pm. The anaesthetist was an experienced Czech and really good, like no nausea, no pain etc. The nurse was a former ICU nurse! So Dr O's team are top notch.

Fresh quoted 3.3 million + 10% vat. London £5k and Hull £2.7k under local. My research paid off.

Will update when I dare remove the surgical garment.
 

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Yay! It's done @Fortunecat! Arm lipo today and here are the results for only £1350 including this fab surgical compression garment and iv twilight sedation and a lovely belgian pastry with coca cola. No pain. Took one paracetamol just for the heck of it. One 62 yo lady flew from Manchester to Belgium for tummy tuck, stayed for 5 days and is thrilled. I took the 6:13 Eurostar this morning and got in 2 hours later, then took some local trains included in the Eurostar ticket to any Belgiam station to arrive at Beveren. Checked in and walked across the street to have my op at 1 pm. The anaesthetist was an experienced Czech and really good, like no nausea, no pain etc. The nurse was a former ICU nurse! So Dr O's team are top notch.

Fresh quoted 3.3 million + 10% vat. London £5k and Hull £2.7k under local. My research paid off.

Will update when I dare remove the surgical garment.

@MissOrange I hope you are feeling okay!
Ooo... sounds good to me!
Looking forward to more photos soon!!!
 
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@MissOrange I hope you are feeling okay!
Ooo... sounds good to me!
Looking forward to more photos soon!!!
Hi @Fortunecat, okay I took off the surgical garment to shower and take photos. The right arm lipo is better than the left arm lipo. I can only pinch half an inch on the right but can still pinch an inch on the left. So the improvement on the left is not as noticeable as on the right. Here are the b&a comparison photos. I think lipo has its limits without removing skin. But I am not prepared to have another scar so will hold off on arm lift until my 60s. At least arm lipo has bought me some time until then.
 

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Hi @Fortunecat, okay I took off the surgical garment to shower and take photos. The right arm lipo is better than the left arm lipo. I can only pinch half an inch on the right but can still pinch an inch on the left. So the improvement on the left is not as noticeable as on the right. Here are the b&a comparison photos. I think lipo has its limits without removing skin. But I am not prepared to have another scar so will hold off on arm lift until my 60s. At least arm lipo has bought me some time until then.
Your arms are looking good after the lipo. I am sure that they will get smaller in another 1 month's time coz your arms should be swollen right now!
 
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Today I met 3 guests at a luncheon, 2 with Parkinson’s and one with advanced breast cancer, all relatively young in their 50s or 60s. Another guest said 3 of her friends have been diagnosed with breast cancer and they all carried their mobile phones close to their chest, I presume in their bra or blouse pocket? How many of you do this? Do you experience headaches from overuse of your phone or earbuds? This may be explaining why women with no family history of breast cancer and no history of hormone use in contraception or HRT are getting breast cancer?! There also seems to be a link between vitamin C deficiency and Parkinson’s! I noticed I heal faster when I take high doses of vitamin C powder.

Here I am today looking much better with the S9 focal lens than in real life I think. Maybe that’s why some ladies are asking for plastic surgery to look like their phone selfies?



Hi @MissOrange ! Wow, your skin is flawless! Where in seoul do you get skin lasers / dermatology treatments?
 
Hi @MissOrange ! Wow, your skin is flawless! Where in seoul do you get skin lasers / dermatology treatments?
Hi @wishingstar, I don’t get any skin laser or derm treatments. My secret is I drink plenty of still water which hydrates the skin, moisturise with any face lotion and avoid the sun. I have stopped using Botox and dermal fillers since getting fat graft. I use shiseido skin foundation in shade I20 as it is the best for Asian yellow pigment skin and I love indoor evening lighting as it makes my yellow skin look flawless.
 
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Your arms are looking good after the lipo. I am sure that they will get smaller in another 1 month's time coz your arms should be swollen right now!
I hope so @Fortunecat. It is day 3 and the worst for swelling and bruising despite applying arnica. I measured and my upper arms are 10 inches and 10.75 inches circumference, respectively. They were 9.75 and 10.75 inches before arm lipo. Today I feel I wasted £1720 but am trying to remain hopeful and tell myself it still has tumescent fluid or are still swollen and will continue to wear compression bandages/garment. I plan to keep wearing for 2 weeks, night and day and remeasure at pod 7 and pod 14. At this point, I would only recommend arm lift and not rely just on arm lipo. I really need to look at working on my triceps to try to lift my underarms. I tried the skin elasticity test, ie pinch your skin and see if it bounces back to normal quickly. This is promising and hopefully I will see arm lipo improvements eventually.
 
I hope so @Fortunecat. It is day 3 and the worst for swelling and bruising despite applying arnica. I measured and my upper arms are 10 inches and 10.75 inches circumference, respectively. They were 9.75 and 10.75 inches before arm lipo. Today I feel I wasted £1720 but am trying to remain hopeful and tell myself it still has tumescent fluid or are still swollen and will continue to wear compression bandages/garment. I plan to keep wearing for 2 weeks, night and day and remeasure at pod 7 and pod 14. At this point, I would only recommend arm lift and not rely just on arm lipo. I really need to look at working on my triceps to try to lift my underarms. I tried the skin elasticity test, ie pinch your skin and see if it bounces back to normal quickly. This is promising and hopefully I will see arm lipo improvements eventually.
@MissOrange, Don't despair! I am sure they will get better. We have been through this before. Well... if your arms din become slimmer, then at least, we know that arm lipo doesn't work for you. Its better to know than to have any regrets, right?
Cheer up! We know it takes at least a month to reach its best results! :)
 
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@MissOrange, Don't despair! I am sure they will get better. We have been through this before. Well... if your arms din become slimmer, then at least, we know that arm lipo doesn't work for you. Its better to know than to have any regrets, right?
Cheer up! We know it takes at least a month to reach its best results! :smile:
Thanks @Fortunecat, I have joined a fb group of arm lifts and shocked to read arm lift revisions seem common and the scars are so long! I think if a lady has huge batwings then get an arm lift. If not, then do exercise. I should have spent the £1720 on a personal trainer or 283 (4 years of weekly) £6 karate classes! Watching the 50 episodes of the Legend of Bruce Lee. Seems kung fu exercises the arm muscles constantly! I worry that my skin has now been stretched from lipo. :sad:

As an aside, I got my carotid scan result and it showed I have low risk of cv disease, ie stroke! Yay I went from high risk in 2016 with a lipoprotein A of 312 to low risk in 2019 with a record high cholesterol of 8.6 (double normal) and lower lipoprotein A of 202 on niacin 100 mg and coenzymeQ10 100 mg. This suggests that I can go back to eating bulgogi and fatty foods as it may be lipoprotein A that is linked to atherosclerosis and not cholesterol. 2 of my daughters have normal cholesterol but high lipoprotein A and have high cv risk on both carotids! The question then is, as niacin ie vitamin B3 reduces lipoprotein A then could atherosclerosis simply be due to vitamin B3 deficiency? We also get niacin in coffee, mushrooms, wholewheat, etc.

I had another blood test yesterday. Next week I find out if a vegan non dairy diet with plant sterol 800 mg lowered my cholesterol. But hoping my lpa continued to go further down on CoQ10 and niacin. I may be tempted to ignore my cholesterol as the total cholesterol to hdl ratio is normal despite the extremely high total cholesterol. Dr Aseem Malhotra, an esteemed cardiologist suggests we eat saturated fats as cholesterol is needed for the brain and body!

I now am more likely to beat familial stroke in my 70s and live to 90 which means more plastic surgery in the future to look 20-30 at age 90! lol. I am going to outlive many male plastic surgeons! lol
 
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Miss orange, I just want to say thank you so much for recommending MVP clinic! I am in korea for two jaw and v line and i did my eyes with them. I wasn't happy so dr seo is redoing it.

Miss ellen and miss victoria there have treated me so well and I wouldn't have survived my twoo jaw journey without them.

I went too MVP for eyes, iv drips and skin treatments.
 
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Miss orange, I just want to say thank you so much for recommending MVP clinic! I am in korea for two jaw and v line and i did my eyes with them. I wasn't happy so dr seo is redoing it.

Miss ellen and miss victoria there have treated me so well and I wouldn't have survived my twoo jaw journey without them.

I went too MVP for eyes, iv drips and skin treatments.
You’re welcome @maybebaby1980! Your avatar photo looks beautiful! It doesn’t look like you need 2 Jaw surgery? You are very brave to do 2 jaw and v line! Which clinic did you pick for this?

I have been researching arm circumferences to determine what mine should be. Here are the 2 charts I have found and it seems my right arm mid arm circumference of 26.6 cms puts me in the almost overweight category of a bmi of 25 and the 90th percentile of American ladies my age, yet my actual bmi is only 18.3! So I definitely needed arm lift and not just arm lipo.
 

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Here are my upper arms still the same size a week pre and post arm lipo at a bmi of 18.3 or 97 lbs..11 inches at the biggest circ and 10.5 inches mid arm circ. It seems my arms are those befitting a 50+ year old according to mid arm circumference. Sigh. Need to make them 9 inches like a 20 year old. I am told by my surgeon to wait 3 months for the final result and continue to wear arm compression sleeves. In the meantime I have booked a second opinion consult with Mr Paul Tulley of Cadogan clinic for September 5 to consider arm lift. His price is £4750 vs William Townley, another London surgeon charges £5k so this is the ballpark price in London. The price in Bristol is £4011 but it would mean travelling by train for consults and op.

I found some good arm lift results on Instagram and real self. At this point I would say, don’t bother with arm lipo, just get arm lift. Now it is a matter of finding a surgeon who can suture finely to minimise the long scar.
 

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@MissOrange Give yourself some time before deciding that arm lipo is a waste of time and money. As the saying goes, "If you never try, you will never know!".
I went to Renewme clinic and 365mc for mini liposuction consultation last year. The doctor at Renewme said I do not need arm lipo whereas the nurse clinician at 365mc told me that I only need 1 syringe (50cc) for each arm.
I think for my case, possibly its arm sagging due to age?
Anyways, I am still contemplating about it.
Oh yes. The long arm scar really deters me for arm lift in the event if I do need one in the future.
 
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