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Thanks @Fortunecat,

I have now received a quote from a surgeon in Hull, East Yorkshire for £2700 for arm lift under local! Gulp. I don’t think I can stomach lipo under local. Also it is the same price as Korea but more with travel costs. So the choice is easier. The best plastic surgeon for the most reasonable price is Dr Bert Oelbrandt in Belgium. I will book a consult to see him in London on July 7 for £40 and then pay £1250 for arm lipo under twilight sedation in Belgium! He has 4.9/5 google reviews and plenty of positive reviews on RealSelf. I looked into train prices from London to Antwerp area and it is about £100 return and the 5 star b&b by the clinic is €90 a night and I will need 2 nights. It will be an adventure for me exploring Belgium especially as I don’t speak Dutch! I shall keep this thread updated with my results after surgery. Any surgery in Korea has to take into account the £1k extra expense in flights and hotel costs. I have my ted stockings from my breast explant so I can use this as compression bandage for my upper arms postop!

As I have had traditional lipo and Vaser lipo to my tummy and thighs in 2002 and 2004 in the UK for £4K each time, I can highly recommend lipo as a surgical procedure to permanently remove fat cells but not the expensive price. Once the fat cells are sucked out of my arms, that leaves any fat weight gain to hopefully expand in my chest and bum! Lol. Well I hope. It is unpredictable where the body decides to expand fat cells elsewhere when lipo removes fat cells from one part of the body. It better not expand my face fat cells!! Well, maybe a little is okay, like a fat graft top up.

In the meantime it is 27 days to go before I travel back to Birmingham for areola symmetrisation under local. I simply do not have 500-600 ccs of fat (like 2 breast implants) on my body for £5k breast fat transfer in my opinion, so I shall rely on a silk M&S bra to give me a lift and fullness.
Sounds good! Excited for you!
Do keep us updated, especially on the arm lipo because i am interested in that too! ;)
 
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Hi, I am not sure if it will be useful for you, But I came across so called "celebrity Arm" lipo in Tampa Florida. BTW: I am considering arm lipo in a near future as well. I am also on a slim side (5'2, 103 pounds) . AND I do have some "wings" (nothing too big or horrible, but it is there) . I think it is genetics. When I was super skinny (around 89 pounds : classical ballet up to age 18). I did have some pocket of fat there :smile:. But my legs were envy of all of my ballet classmates . Anyways, I was researching some local specialists (I am in (East Coast US)) and I came across Celebrity Arm Lipo. It looks like lipo with etching (art lipo , I guess). The price is very steep though around 9K per arm lipo for female Dr (Forgot her name). and little bit less expensive for Male Doctor (I think his name is DR SU or DR KU). PLUS, YOU have to be awake during surgery (can you believe it?) So they can etch your arms per your input apparently. Some clients reported considerable discomfort during procedure. HMMMM... I do NOT tolerate pain well (How I gave birth to my daughter still beats me , lol)Anyways, I found it this interesting. (I read some realself posts on the subject).
 
Thanks @Fortunecat,

I have now received a quote from a surgeon in Hull, East Yorkshire for £2700 for arm lift under local! Gulp. I don’t think I can stomach lipo under local. Also it is the same price as Korea but more with travel costs. So the choice is easier. The best plastic surgeon for the most reasonable price is Dr Bert Oelbrandt in Belgium. I will book a consult to see him in London on July 7 for £40 and then pay £1250 for arm lipo under twilight sedation in Belgium! He has 4.9/5 google reviews and plenty of positive reviews on RealSelf. I looked into train prices from London to Antwerp area and it is about £100 return and the 5 star b&b by the clinic is €90 a night and I will need 2 nights. It will be an adventure for me exploring Belgium especially as I don’t speak Dutch! I shall keep this thread updated with my results after surgery. Any surgery in Korea has to take into account the £1k extra expense in flights and hotel costs. I have my ted stockings from my breast explant so I can use this as compression bandage for my upper arms postop!

As I have had traditional lipo and Vaser lipo to my tummy and thighs in 2002 and 2004 in the UK for £4K each time, I can highly recommend lipo as a surgical procedure to permanently remove fat cells but not the expensive price. Once the fat cells are sucked out of my arms, that leaves any fat weight gain to hopefully expand in my chest and bum! Lol. Well I hope. It is unpredictable where the body decides to expand fat cells elsewhere when lipo removes fat cells from one part of the body. It better not expand my face fat cells!! Well, maybe a little is okay, like a fat graft top up.

In the meantime it is 27 days to go before I travel back to Birmingham for areola symmetrisation under local. I simply do not have 500-600 ccs of fat (like 2 breast implants) on my body for £5k breast fat transfer in my opinion, so I shall rely on a silk M&S bra to give me a lift and fullness.
MissOrange, don't you think that removing fat from your arm will make your skin sag more? The issue is not the fat but the skin laxity. The skin tightening procedures such as Profound RF don't work.either. There is a procedure called mini brachioplasty through which you can get some muscle tightening and pull the skin. The incisions are under the arm pit and in the natural creases under the arm. I heard it is not as effective as a regular brachioplasty but in your case considering the minimal laxity you have, it may be a good option.
 
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MissOrange, don't you think that removing fat from your arm will make your skin sag more? The issue is not the fat but the skin laxity. The skin tightening procedures such as Profound RF don't work.either. There is a procedure called mini brachioplasty through which you can get some muscle tightening and pull the skin. The incisions are under the arm pit and in the natural creases under the arm. I heard it is not as effective as a regular brachioplasty but in your case considering the minimal laxity you have, it may be a good option.
Thank you @EvaCandy. You make a good point. If fat is used to expand and lift, ie bbl, breast FT, then removing fat, may make skin sag, like over aggressive facial lipo. I would be devastated if I had arm lipo that resulted in empty sagging skin under my arms. The surgeon did also quote a price for a mini arm lift at €2300. But when I see b&a photos on Instagram they show skinny arms after massive lipo and no sagging? Or is it because the ladies are 20 years younger and their skin has better collagen and elastin? I see Dr O in 6 days and shall ask to see his b&a photos of arm lipo and arm mini lift. My scars tend to pigment, so not really keen on a long underarm scar but then do not want to pay double to have lipo and then lift later. Sigh. The karriclinic has posted Instagram photos of b&a but they charge £2700 and it is done under local. Then I rang my first lipo surgeon Maurizio Viel who did my tummy and thighs back in 2004 with no tummy skin sagging but he now charges £5500 for upper arm lipo!!!
 
Hi, I am not sure if it will be useful for you, But I came across so called "celebrity Arm" lipo in Tampa Florida. BTW: I am considering arm lipo in a near future as well. I am also on a slim side (5'2, 103 pounds) . AND I do have some "wings" (nothing too big or horrible, but it is there) . I think it is genetics. When I was super skinny (around 89 pounds : classical ballet up to age 18). I did have some pocket of fat there :smile:. But my legs were envy of all of my ballet classmates . Anyways, I was researching some local specialists (I am in (East Coast US)) and I came across Celebrity Arm Lipo. It looks like lipo with etching (art lipo , I guess). The price is very steep though around 9K per arm lipo for female Dr (Forgot her name). and little bit less expensive for Male Doctor (I think his name is DR SU or DR KU). PLUS, YOU have to be awake during surgery (can you believe it?) So they can etch your arms per your input apparently. Some clients reported considerable discomfort during procedure. HMMMM... I do NOT tolerate pain well (How I gave birth to my daughter still beats me , lol)Anyways, I found it this interesting. (I read some realself posts on the subject).
Hi @MysticMelody, wow you did classical ballet up to 18! Ah that means I need to get down to 89 lbs to have natural skinny upper arms. But that is impossible for me at age 53. Lol. I set my weight loss app to 95 lbs ideal weight and instead of losing weight, I ate cake and a doughnut yesterday with Bulgogi and noodles. Reverse psychology. I had skinny arms as a teen but noticed postmenopause and post tummy and thigh lipo, excess fat likes to expand in my upper arms and flanks. As a teen I was so proud of my skinny arms and hated my 21 inch around thunder thighs with no thigh gap. Yes I agree genetics also plays a part as if you can still have fat in your arms at 89 lbs, then it definitely is due to genetics. I can’t afford 9k per arm lipo. If I totalled all the money I have spent on plastic surgery and dental work over the past 20 years it is well over $100k and I still don’t look like a movie star! Lol. Half of the surgeries were a waste of money (no lasting improvement) or needed due to complications, like infection, rupture, etc. This is why research, choosing the best for less, less is more philosophy and taking one’s time are essential now.
 
Miss Orange, you look absolutely fabulous (100K were a great investments in my book at least). and I can relate to so-called "THE CHANGE" .I am 49. BTW: 89 pounds were miserable :smile: . we eat alot ( well growing plus excessive body training) but we trained so much (Even now, 21 years later I would wake up in a panic that I missed my morning classic , lol) . Plus my joins are not in a best condition. Anyways, What I am trying to say, everything is on eyes of the beholder, right? When I mentioned my arms to my friends they laughed. However I do face (indeed face) other problems (2 namely). Marionette lines, excess fat below corner of my mouth , and crepey skin on in front of my neck ( platysma is fine). I am not ready for a full blown PS (my little one is only 8) so I am trying to research for any available options to fix it (non surgically) with min downtime. I am considering MINT thread lift for face, but what to do with crepey skin? I do not have double chin, maybe little bit of fat under my chin (once again nothing big or horrible) . as mentioned I live in USA (east cost) went to couple of PS and 1 recommend neck lift and another fraxel (I am not ready for both options) . My friend recommended bio-revitaliation, but it is not available in USA (not FDA approved)- for that I have to travel to europe. so I am not sure what to do :sad:. BTW: I have "meaty" face (and I love it :)). I am Asian as well with PROMINENT Cheekbones (I can literally cut paper with my cheekbones and I absolutely adore them ). I was stopped so many times on a street by many woman /men asking me about my cheekbones and asking me the phone of my PS. Well my PS was mother nature. :)
 
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Today’s post is a recap on breast implant illness and breast implant associated ALCL lymphoma. If you are in the UK, please tune in to Dispatches on Channel 4 and watch the expose on Allergan textured silicone breast implants and its link to lymphoma cancer. They interview a nurse who had her PIP implants exchanged to Allergan implants in 2012 just like I did, but sadly for her she was diagnosed with alcl lymphoma in August of 2018 and is in an advanced stage of this cancer. I found out about breast implant illness and textured silicone implants back in November 2018 and suddenly panicked trying to find a qualified surgeon who could not only remove the implant but also the scarred capsules. The NHS will only remove the implants if ruptured or associated with a grade 4 capsular contraction and some refuse to remove the capsules as it prolongs the operation in a rationed health care system. To remove implants can be 20 minutes but to remove with capsules which may be adhered to the ribs may take 2+ hours and needs a specialist. By December I managed to get a cancellation appointment slot with a private Birmingham explant specialist and again another cancellation op slot with him for January 2019 while my symptoms were escalating at an alarming rate (palpitations, rash on back behind the implant, oesophageal ulcer, eoe autoimmune inflammation of my oesophagus, anxiety, bleeding per rectum and alcohol intolerance, burning, painful dry blurry eyes resistant to steroid drops, etc.) and I knew I was racing against the clock to get them out before my multiplying t helper cells trying to get rid of the foreign body implants mutated to cancer cells. The NHS still had me on a rationed waiting list as my right implant had ruptured within the capsule. It was not until April of 2019 that the NHS rang me to say I was now at the top of the waiting list but because there was no guarantee they could take out the capsules too and no guarantee that it would be a consultant surgeon and not a trainee junior doctor, I am glad I paid to go privately. This was not the time to take risks with my life for free surgery. For some ladies the breast implant illness symptoms remain postop as their t helper cells have been exposed for too long and the damage may already be permanent, and some have residual silicone in their lymph nodes or lymphatics which surgeons may refuse to touch. They now say that even saline implants have been linked to alcl lymphoma as the implant casing is also made from textured silicone. I trusted the US FDA approval system for my Allergan implants and was shocked to see documentaries on how implants and devices may be fast tracked for approval without completing studies. My advice is not to have any breast implants. I tried 4 sets of breast implants over 20 years (3 approved by Europe’s regulatory body and the last set by the US FDA) and they all failed or were banned eventually. My advice is to try breast fat transfer if you have 500-600cc’s of spare fat or wear padded bras. I am doing the latter.

Here is the link to the Dispatches preview show on the breast implant expose.
 
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Today's post is what to do after you have had plastic surgery rejuvenation. Can you still improve on the results and the answer is yes by lightening your hair to give your face an instant 'lift'. I went blonde in October of last year at age 52 but due to hard maintenance went dark again earlier this year only to notice how it seemed to dull my appearance. I then went back to blonde in May and will stay blonde and try to endure the demanding regime to avoid further hair damage. The hair stylist said something that struck a chord. He remarked that dark hair made me look too serious. It then got me thinking how does blonde hair make the face look less serious? Why and how does it make the face look better?

The other thing I have been experimenting with is no lower eyeliner and no coloured lenses. Remarkably more natural looks better? See for yourself.
 

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Today's second tip is using sunscreen as a moisturiser or to layer over foundation for a better complexion. As we age our face goes from teen oily to dry and wrinkly postmenopause from decades of weather and sun exposure.

I noticed that each time I applied sunscreen my complexion glowed. Have a look and try this at home.
 

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Sounds good! Excited for you!
Do keep us updated, especially on the arm lipo because i am interested in that too! ;)
Hi @Fortunecat I met Dr O at 2 Wimpole St yesterday on a Sunday and wow his waiting room was packed full of Brit ladies! He is tall and handsome with a sexy deep European accent...like a European version of a k drama actor lol. I was too shy to flash my boobs for a breast FT opinion so just asked for arm lipo. He said he would insert the cannula in my elbow and I was not a candidate for arm lift as I did not have loose skin. He said I could get arm lift at age 65. He is thinking ahead for me!

He offered me August 9 to which I said yes! He operates every Thursdays and Fridays. Today should get email confirmation and then I book the eurostar and he said pick to any station in belgium which includes Beveren. He even reminded me if I wanted to see his b+a photos! He was very proud of his lipo work as he should be. I saw one where he transferred flank fat into a butt and wow the lady looked so much younger with a lifted bum! It would have been less than €1k to add fat transfer. I paid £40 cash for the consult in person. He does skype too. I worked out with the exchange rate now £1350 for €1500 op cost for arm lipo under iv twilight sedation, £130 eurostar includes local trains, his wife's b+b for 2 nights €90/night, the grand total is £1704 which is still a lot cheaper than the karriclinic in hull for £2700 for arm lipo under local anaesthesia+£250 consult+trains to hull which cost more than to beveren when I checked prices for a consult so the grand total would have been £3,250. In London I was quoted £4.7k to £5.5k just for the op. And Fresh in korea quoted 3.3 million + 10% tax (which we get back) for arm lipo ie $3k + flights + hotels or a grand total of £3.7k. No wonder ladies travel abroad for elective plastic surgery and this will be my first ps op in Europe! Meanwhile it is 9 days left to my areola symmetrisation op in Birmingham under local.

Here are upclose photos of my middle-aged arm fat. He even said he would lipo around the arm to get the fat at tha back of the arm as well as underneath! Woohoo! In the last photo my upper arm looks bigger than my boob! Time for "fat be gone!"
 

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Hi @Fortunecat I met Dr O at 2 Wimpole St yesterday on a Sunday and wow his waiting room was packed full of Brit ladies! He is tall and handsome with a sexy deep European accent...like a European version of a k drama actor lol. I was too shy to flash my boobs for a breast FT opinion so just asked for arm lipo. He said he would insert the cannula in my elbow and I was not a candidate for arm lift as I did not have loose skin. He said I could get arm lift at age 65. He is thinking ahead for me!

He offered me August 9 to which I said yes! He operates every Thursdays and Fridays. Today should get email confirmation and then I book the eurostar and he said pick to any station in belgium which includes Beveren. He even reminded me if I wanted to see his b+a photos! He was very proud of his lipo work as he should be. I saw one where he transferred flank fat into a butt and wow the lady looked so much younger with a lifted bum! It would have been less than €1k to add fat transfer. I paid £40 cash for the consult in person. He does skype too. I worked out with the exchange rate now £1350 for €1500 op cost for arm lipo under iv twilight sedation, £130 eurostar includes local trains, his wife's b+b for 2 nights €90/night, the grand total is £1704 which is still a lot cheaper than the karriclinic in hull for £2700 for arm lipo under local anaesthesia+£250 consult+trains to hull which cost more than to beveren when I checked prices for a consult so the grand total would have been £3,250. In London I was quoted £4.7k to £5.5k just for the op. And Fresh in korea quoted 3.3 million + 10% tax (which we get back) for arm lipo ie $3k + flights + hotels or a grand total of £3.7k. No wonder ladies travel abroad for elective plastic surgery and this will be my first ps op in Europe! Meanwhile it is 9 days left to my areola symmetrisation op in Birmingham under local.

Here are upclose photos of my middle-aged arm fat. He even said he would lipo around the arm to get the fat at tha back of the arm as well as underneath! Woohoo! In the last photo my upper arm looks bigger than my boob! Time for "fat be gone!"
Oh wow!
I am so looking forward to your arm lipo as I am also contemplating about it!
 
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@Fortunecat I was told I would get an email on Monday confirming arm lipo for August 9 but have received nil. I sent reminder emails yesterday but no replies. So not sure if they are disorganised or what.

In the meantime I wanted to compare summer holiday bikini shots of me at 52 last year with implants vs me this summer without. I am still trying to get used to natural saggy boobs after 23 years relying on 4 sets of implants to look perky. Each set either ruptured then got banned from the market or got banned due to causing cancer. Sigh, the US FDA and European medical device regulators got it wrong 4 times yet the consumer cannot sue the manufacturer but only the surgeon or clinic as long as they are still solvent. Imagine trying to sue the clinic if you travelled to Asia to get implants. Impossible. However if you paid by credit card in Asia then you may claim on the credit card when they rupture or get withdrawn as unsafe. So the cost of removals and exchanges every 3-10 years gets added to the initial cost of having implants to make it a hefty investment. I need to find a lady who has had breast fat transfer that has lasted a year as this procedure may cause uneven breasts from varying reabsorption, further sagging from the weight of the fat or calcified lumps. This means finding the best surgeon in the world for breast fat transfer if you decide to go down this path.
 

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@MissOrange Oh I see. Do keep update about the arm lipo again.
As for your boobs, what size are they now? If you are already a B cup onwards, I think it should be ok? But of course, possibly not ideal for you as yours used to be bigger. Maybe you can give yourself a little bit more time to "settle" and get used to your natural boobs before taking another plunge again? Possibly, you will find that they are not too bad afterall...
 
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@MissOrange Oh I see. Do keep update about the arm lipo again.
As for your boobs, what size are they now? If you are already a B cup onwards, I think it should be ok? But of course, possibly not ideal for you as yours used to be bigger. Maybe you can give yourself a little bit more time to "settle" and get used to your natural boobs before taking another plunge again? Possibly, you will find that they are not too bad afterall...
Thanks @Fortunecat. Yes just like with zygoma reduction, I am frightened of any complications of breast FT, so am shelving it for now. My chest went from 34 inches to 31 inches post explant and droop. It looks better in a bra as this lifts them up a couple of inches. A female breast surgeon says a young lady's nipples are 17-19 cms from the collarbone. Sadly mine are further away after the periareolar donut lift but in a underwired padded bra (that manually lifts them) look young. Thank heavens for modern bras. I even tried the stick on rabbit breast lift covers but try peeling them off! Mega ouch as it stretched the skin. I failed the pencil test when I saw Mr Dario Rochira for a second opinion, ie can you hold a pencil under your breast. If you can then you are a candidate for breast lift. This means declined for revision breast lift. The lesson of the day is refuse periareolar lift as even my nipples are in a lower position post. It has to be full anchor lift or no lift. I never asked for a periareolar lift. I asked for a full anchor lift but awoke to a periareolar lift. I would say write no periareolar lift on your consent form as "mastopexy" on the surgical consent form is too vague. :sad:

The downside of tummy lipo (2002 and 2004) is the extra skin. It shows when sitting as rolls but fortunately flattens out on standing. See the recent photo below. Although bear in mind it was taken after an all you can eat breakfast buffet! Had to cover the passerbyes as the topless man had bigger boobs than I did even in my padded bikini top!
 

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Thanks @Fortunecat. Yes just like with zygoma reduction, I am frightened of any complications of breast FT, so am shelving it for now. My chest went from 34 inches to 31 inches post explant and droop. It looks better in a bra as this lifts them up a couple of inches. A female breast surgeon says a young lady's nipples are 17-19 cms from the collarbone. Sadly mine are further away after the periareolar donut lift but in a underwired padded bra (that manually lifts them) look young. Thank heavens for modern bras. I even tried the stick on rabbit breast lift covers but try peeling them off! Mega ouch as it stretched the skin. I failed the pencil test when I saw Mr Dario Rochira for a second opinion, ie can you hold a pencil under your breast. If you can then you are a candidate for breast lift. This means declined for revision breast lift. The lesson of the day is refuse periareolar lift as even my nipples are in a lower position post. It has to be full anchor lift or no lift. I never asked for a periareolar lift. I asked for a full anchor lift but awoke to a periareolar lift. I would say write no periareolar lift on your consent form as "mastopexy" on the surgical consent form is too vague. :sad:

The downside of tummy lipo (2002 and 2004) is the extra skin. It shows when sitting as rolls but fortunately flattens out on standing. See the recent photo below. Although bear in mind it was taken after an all you can eat breakfast buffet! Had to cover the passerbyes as the topless man had bigger boobs than I did even in my padded bikini top!
I think the rolls are due to sagging skin. As we age, we shrunk. So, we can't avoid having rolls when we sit down. I am sure that if you sit up straight, the rolls will not be that obvious. But at least, your stomach is flat when standing. So, I guess thats good enough.
I am making an effort to cut down on sugars as sugars age us prematurely, not to mention sagging skin etc.
 
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