Hermes Vintage Bag Nightmares & Hermes Leather Care

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I have the flat horsehair, the ridged horsehair crinoline and a woven horsehair crinoline. I have not had to clean any of them. On one occasion, I did take a damp cloth to the flat horsehair when I saw a spot left by the lock rubbing against it. I would not use anything that would be abrasive and break the weave of the horsehair. If it was something serious, I would take it to a craftsman at the boutique.

BTW, I recently read on another site that it is suggested NOT to use the magic eraser on any of the bags. Not sure why this is, but I am not tempting the fates. I know that many people have said it is good on toile bags, but I am sticking to a damp cloth for toile as it always works for me.

Thanks, gracekelly! That's good to know :). Thankfully, I have only one bag in this and it's my bang-up bag at that! Lol.
 
Hi doc,

Sorry I have to change the PM here as I can't PM you due to some technical problems with TPF website.

"Is alright, I deeply appreciate your prompt reply.

Do you know of any good leather cleaner that can clean away color transfer?

As I search under your leather thread, I found some tpfers mentioning BlackRock but SG doesn't sell it. Any other good brands?"

Thanks
 
lala28 and gracekelly, many thanks for your feedback!!
I just got this bag from Ebay, but haven't revecived it yet...from the pictures, it looks as if it has some age spots, of brown/yellowish color. I believe the bag is of flat horsehair, it even has some sheen from the hair fibers.
I'm afraid the magic eraser will tear the horsehair apart, though.
I will update you with some pictures, for further advice!
Thanks again!!
 
arqfpca said:
lala28 and gracekelly, many thanks for your feedback!!
I just got this bag from Ebay, but haven't revecived it yet...from the pictures, it looks as if it has some age spots, of brown/yellowish color. I believe the bag is of flat horsehair, it even has some sheen from the hair fibers.
I'm afraid the magic eraser will tear the horsehair apart, though.
I will update you with some pictures, for further advice!
Thanks again!!

if it has color discoloration from age, just enjoy it and know you own a real treasure! :)
 
Hi Docride,

first of all let me thank you for sharing your wealth of information on leather care. I've followed your instructions and conditioned all my Hermes bags to great effect. However, I now have a problem that I hope you can help me with.

I have a vintage box Kelly that has many scratches on it. I took the bag to H and asked my SA if a spa treatment can get rid of the scratches and my SA said not to waste my money because it won't really help.

So I tried to condition it with Blackrock, and even used some meltonian black leather shoe cream on the scratches, but nothing worked. Most of the scratches are superficial fingernail scratches, but there are two longer ones on the front of the bag that look like they could've been caused by a sharp metal object, like a key. They are deeper, and there's even a little bit of "overhang" of leather at the end.

I'm attaching a photo but not sure if you can see it. The long scratches are towards the bottom 1/3 of the bag.

I appreciate any advice you can offer. Thanks in advance!!
 

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Hi Docride,

first of all let me thank you for sharing your wealth of information on leather care. I've followed your instructions and conditioned all my Hermes bags to great effect. However, I now have a problem that I hope you can help me with.

I have a vintage box Kelly that has many scratches on it. I took the bag to H and asked my SA if a spa treatment can get rid of the scratches and my SA said not to waste my money because it won't really help.

So I tried to condition it with Blackrock, and even used some meltonian black leather shoe cream on the scratches, but nothing worked. Most of the scratches are superficial fingernail scratches, but there are two longer ones on the front of the bag that look like they could've been caused by a sharp metal object, like a key. They are deeper, and there's even a little bit of "overhang" of leather at the end.
Hello, Certainly more intesnsive treatments can be done however I would not encourage a DIY ....best off to have a trusted professional do it... You might want to close the cut area as a start and perhaps add some filler to any deep punctures or scrapes then resurface carefully and tap apply dye over the corrections... Just saying;)
 
For up cleaning & keeping >Blackrocks is a great for Box Calf (Obenauf's LP only if brand new or very dry or if the bag will expected to be worn in very bad weather), Togo should do well with Lexol PH leather wipes for gentle cleaning. If you want to add additional color to say worn off corners then a matching color cream polish would be good have on hand as well. I hope this helps.:smile1:
Thank you, I have ordered 2 blackrocks, want to share this advice with my friends!

I have another question on Evercalf leather, does the blackrocks works on it too? If not what do you suggest?

Once again thank you for sharing your experience with us all!
 
Thanks for the prompt reply, doc! What do you mean by filler? What should I use to fill the deep scrapes? And dye is the same as the shoe polish? Or something different entirely? TIA!!

Hi, When I say filler I mean a leather filler, a professional can apply it to deep cuts and deep scratches..if needed.
Dye is quite diffrent from color cream polish... When I mention dye I mean quite litteraly a dye for leather and when I mention color cream (polish) or polish it is those two that are the same in my book..mean leather polish or shoe boot polish or cream.
I hope that helps?
 
Hi doc!

I have in hand a poor old Kelly 28 that has been painted white on the outside and inside as well. It is a poorly done paint job and you can see where the Hermes stamp in the front was covered up when the rest of painted creating a two tone look in the shape of tiny rectangular around "Hermes". You can see that the paint on the handles is coming off and it's hard for me to say whether it's just the paint or the leather too. Moreover, the gold hardware is badly tarnished and is probably beyond repair (save for buying all new hardware).

It looks like it was probably white to begin with plus it has the white leather covered lock. The inside is slightly yellowed inspite of the paint job but I believe it was white as well. The date stamp is an old one; it looks like the letter Z without any circle, so 1969 maybe.

So the story behind this Kelly is that my neighbor lived in Los Angeles during her college years and was pretty much anti-establishment, including anti high end luxury goods. She went to decades (before it was the decades we know today) and bought this bag because she found it to be "ironic iconic". Now, fifteen plus years later, she doesn't find this" ironic iconic" as funny as she once did. She's pretty much accepted that there is no real market appeal in its current form so I thought I'd post here and get your thoughts.

Can any of this poor Kelly be saved?
(At this point, I'm not even sure how one would go about disposing of such a bag if it turns out to be completely hopeless and needs to be laid to rest.)


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The more I look at it, the more it looks sad and on its death bed.
 
docride said:
Hi, When I say filler I mean a leather filler, a professional can apply it to deep cuts and deep scratches..if needed.
Dye is quite diffrent from color cream polish... When I mention dye I mean quite litteraly a dye for leather and when I mention color cream (polish) or polish it is those two that are the same in my book..mean leather polish or shoe boot polish or cream.
I hope that helps?

Ok got it. Definitely doesn't sound like a DIY job I can handle. I think I'll just leave the scratches as they are. Thanks for the input, doc!
 
Hi doc!

I have in hand a poor old Kelly 28 that has been painted white on the outside and inside as well. It is a poorly done paint job and you can see where the Hermes stamp in the front was covered up when the rest of painted creating a two tone look in the shape of tiny rectangular around "Hermes". You can see that the paint on the handles is coming off and it's hard for me to say whether it's just the paint or the leather too. Moreover, the gold hardware is badly tarnished and is probably beyond repair (save for buying all new hardware).

It looks like it was probably white to begin with plus it has the white leather covered lock. The inside is slightly yellowed inspite of the paint job but I believe it was white as well. The date stamp is an old one; it looks like the letter Z without any circle, so 1969 maybe.

So the story behind this Kelly is that my neighbor lived in Los Angeles during her college years and was pretty much anti-establishment, including anti high end luxury goods. She went to decades (before it was the decades we know today) and bought this bag because she found it to be "ironic iconic". Now, fifteen plus years later, she doesn't find this" ironic iconic" as funny as she once did. She's pretty much accepted that there is no real market appeal in its current form so I thought I'd post here and get your thoughts.

Can any of this poor Kelly be saved?
(At this point, I'm not even sure how one would go about disposing of such a bag if it turns out to be completely hopeless and needs to be laid to rest.)


839b8b73.jpg

012933ea.jpg

4aaf2ec9.jpg

a206027c.jpg


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The more I look at it, the more it looks sad and on its death bed.


Awe poor old girl... can she be saved? I think so. She' doesn't scare me;) She needs professional help though. Not sure if you can get the prettest white again though ,would need to see and feel the leather.. is it cracking you think?
I think she's a great rescue project.
 
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