You could try Yours & Mine Luxury Consignment in Vancouver. I think they may have what you are looking for. Otherwise you can try providing them with your wish list and they will let you know when they receive one.
Hermes store purchase vs. new from reseller
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Hi NikkiCD,
Thanks a lot for reply. I didn't know that there is Luxury consignment store in Vancouver.
I will definitely check it out.
Hi! I have bought a few kellys but now am really looking to get a B25. I know that without a doubt, I want to get a togo black GHW B25, and will not consider other specs. I have tried to search the preloved market but the best price I can find is ~19k, and I am looking to only spend ~16k (very very flexible on condition). At this point, it doesn't look like it will happen unfortunately (am I right in thinking this?) so I'm wondering - should I try to build a purchase history in the boutique for this bag? Is it a hard bag to get? I'm a student so I really try to spend wisely (even on luxury) and I know I can't just drop 20k on a bag in good faith.
Thank you!
Thank you!
I don't think a B25 in black togo is worth $20k - that's closer to a price of an exotic B/K from the store.
If I were a student who's trying to spend wisely I would definitely not spend that amount on a used bag - plus, you already have a few kellys you can enjoy while you build your history at the store.
Good luck!
If I were a student who's trying to spend wisely I would definitely not spend that amount on a used bag - plus, you already have a few kellys you can enjoy while you build your history at the store.
Good luck!
It's not remotely close to the price of an exotic Birkin or Kelly unless you mean a Touch. And personally, I'd rather spend $19K on a new bag than $16K on a bag in iffy condition. But I do agree the poster should pause if they are trying to be careful about spending.
Right now due to supply chain issues and unprecedented demand, a 25cm black Togo birkin w/GHW in new or like new condition runs $25K or more on sites like TRR and Ann’s.
A black birkin 25 in togo is one of the most desired bags on the planet. I would be VERY suspect about bags that run significantly less.
If you have $16K, you may be able to find a 30cm preloved birkin. Or perhaps a 32 Kelly.
Or you can wait until the hype dies down a bit, larger bags are coming back in vogue. But that might take a year or two.
Only once in my like have I ever paid over retail for a bag. It was not 2.5 times the cost of the bag. Personally, I would not pay 25K on any bag unless it was an exotic.
The bags I buy through resellers are not Birkins, Kelly’s, or Constance’s. They are Plumes, Bolides and other WONDERFUL bags, bought at a significant discount. I am currently kicking myself in the rear end that I did not buy a vintage, in fabulous condition Vatche Natural Drag bag that was $2,100 on TRR. While I was debating the purchase, (I have a 32 CM HAC in that leather.) someone else grabbed it.
My point is if you open your mind to other bags, you can find amazing deals on great bags in the pre-loved market. It’s Hermes, the same workmanship, leather etc. it’s just not the bags that influencers are hawking.
Be your own influencer.
Good luck in your bag search.
A black birkin 25 in togo is one of the most desired bags on the planet. I would be VERY suspect about bags that run significantly less.
If you have $16K, you may be able to find a 30cm preloved birkin. Or perhaps a 32 Kelly.
Or you can wait until the hype dies down a bit, larger bags are coming back in vogue. But that might take a year or two.
Only once in my like have I ever paid over retail for a bag. It was not 2.5 times the cost of the bag. Personally, I would not pay 25K on any bag unless it was an exotic.
The bags I buy through resellers are not Birkins, Kelly’s, or Constance’s. They are Plumes, Bolides and other WONDERFUL bags, bought at a significant discount. I am currently kicking myself in the rear end that I did not buy a vintage, in fabulous condition Vatche Natural Drag bag that was $2,100 on TRR. While I was debating the purchase, (I have a 32 CM HAC in that leather.) someone else grabbed it.
My point is if you open your mind to other bags, you can find amazing deals on great bags in the pre-loved market. It’s Hermes, the same workmanship, leather etc. it’s just not the bags that influencers are hawking.
Be your own influencer.
Good luck in your bag search.
Thank you both! Your advice has helped me tremendously. I knew the 20k was so ridiculous, and I'm happy/grateful you all have steered me in the right direction. For me, the condition really is secondary/unimportant, although I guess this is not the norm. For me, I'm just happy to have the bag, and if it's not new, it's much easier and less anxiety-inducing for me to use it
Thank you for your perspective, it's very valuable! I did once get a 32 kelly and had to sell it, because I realized I just much preferred the 28. It's made me realize that I shouldn't compromise on size - I remember about a year ago I saw Black B30s even in the 10k-11k range, but I always wanted the 25 so I stayed away, so paying 15-16k now for the 30 seems silly.
I think I'll wait for the small bag trend to die down (since I'll prefer small bags even when the trend is forgotten) and for now, start to build a history in my local store, hoping it works out in my favor. Thank you again!
If you plan to build history in a store to ultimately get this exact bag, you will spend more than $20K when it’s all said and done. If there are truly things you want, that route makes sense. If you just want the B25, you should probably just overpay for the bag now. Buying items to get the offer is overpaying too- it just takes more time.
Good luck with your decision!
Thank you - that is true. However with buying items to get the offer, I'm at least not just paying 20k for the same item, it's 20k for the item and other H goodies. Looks like the only real downside is time, which I have enough of, thankfully!
I also wonder how the market will shift once production goes back to normal levels, which will hopefully be soon
It’s very doubtful that a 10k spend will result in an offer of a noir GHW B25 though, especially for a new client. These days you can probably expect at least $30k in prespend and even then you may be offered nothing. This is why the resale prices are so high.
Thank you for the information! I have this (probably somewhat unpopular) opinion that Hermes SAs know who they can get to spend more and more until they get an offer based on a client's desperation/rudeness/personality - but I really don't think this is necessary, and with the right SA relationship and patience, even spending 10k between different departments is enough.
It might be naive, but I do know I personally would quit H far before spending 30k pre-spend, and I do think this is a personal decision that each of us has to make.
I think spending 1:1 as a new client was possible a decade ago. Or perhaps during the first stages of Covid lockdown when no one was shopping. But today, it would be hard even in places where there is less emphasis on prespend (And impossible in Asia). Bc even if your SA adores you, he or she still has to make a case with the SM. that’s why people try FSH lottery. It might be doable for a 30B, IDK
I personally think it will take a decade for the resale prices to swing back down to reasonable levels for the particular bag you want in new condition to be available anywhere close to retail.
But if you are a student, I assume you have time I wouldn’t worry about prespend at all. If you like other categories, start a relationship with a nice SA in your local store, and be prepared to wait for a while. Don’t buy anything you don’t love.
while I personally don’t keep track of prespend, and I get basically what I want eventually, if I had to calculate it out, it’s probably close to 3:1 as per @acrowcounted and others (I’d rather not calculate it out for my own peace of mind though and just enjoy what H items I love).
note: I don’t think it helps to think of any SAs as milking their clients as you suggest above (though it seems that may be the case in Asia from what I read on the Asian threads). Rather, even at H, they have sales goals. The BKC isn’t in the goals and is in short supply. it Is what it is. JMO though and YMMV
I personally think it will take a decade for the resale prices to swing back down to reasonable levels for the particular bag you want in new condition to be available anywhere close to retail.
But if you are a student, I assume you have time
I wouldn’t worry about prespend at all. If you like other categories, start a relationship with a nice SA in your local store, and be prepared to wait for a while. Don’t buy anything you don’t love.while I personally don’t keep track of prespend, and I get basically what I want eventually, if I had to calculate it out, it’s probably close to 3:1 as per @acrowcounted and others (I’d rather not calculate it out for my own peace of mind though
and just enjoy what H items I love).note: I don’t think it helps to think of any SAs as milking their clients as you suggest above (though it seems that may be the case in Asia from what I read on the Asian threads). Rather, even at H, they have sales goals. The BKC isn’t in the goals and is in short supply. it Is what it is. JMO though and YMMV
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I do believe you are being a bit naive. If it were easy to get these bags, and noir ghw b25 is one of the most requested/coveted bags, then people would simply go to the boutique rather than pay fashionphile $30k for said bag second hand. An offer of a bag at a lower spend isn’t 100% impossible but it is less likely everyday, just read experiences here and on the Facebook group to see others’ experiences, and I suspect you are probably setting yourself up for disappointment if you plan to spend $10k at the boutique and just wait. These bags are very limited in quantity and are offered as a reciprocal appreciation from the store to the clients who are bolstering the stores sales the most. You may get along great with the SA but the SM needs to approve offers and they look at the numbers. If I’m an SA/SM and I have a client who spent $10k and isn’t going to spend any more vs one that’s already spent $15k and continues to spend, the coveted bag is always going to go to the continued spender. There are so many people getting into the Hermes brand right now that sadly, 10k for a new client barely makes a blip.
