💯 For the purpose of H RTW, I find the differences between neopolitan sartorial and French fashion sartorial very interesting. Esp with the new, softer neopolitan shoulder

and (horror, at least to my DH lol) the jogger style drawstring pant worn with a sports coat, popularized by Brunello.
IMO, the changes in what is considered to fit etc is especially relevant to the RTW thread bc of the change in styles in men’s RTW pants (elastic half back, jogger styles, and in pant belt closures) are more evident in French premier brands like H and Dior than Italian.
I wear H men’s RTW pants that the tailor cuts down for me. (DH just prefers that we not buy the same ref). My SAs (NY and FSH) report that more women are buying men’s RTW. Women are also buying button down shirts from H men’s RTW (stores are ordering size 37). And, more women’s rtw pants (cargos of past seasons and others) have some of the nicer men’s details
@kipp, I believe that there are more than one reversible shearling vest? I wasn’t able to get the ref number on this but unzipped enough to see it has the leather detailing on the inside. This is a 38. My SA said it ran boxy, she said in this I would be a 34, so I assume it’s big. She didn’t recommend it for me (because I need the illusion of a waist) Sorry not to get a closer look go confirm it’s the one you want . Hugs
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