Hermes Return Policy (or: How to Curb Bad Behavior)

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I don't get the point between makeing a reveal and return it...
Do you mean somebody goes to Hermes, spend 8K$, makes a reveal and than bring the bag back just to show it here??? Why somebody should do it? And why if you showed the bag here you shouldn't retourn it? Especially if the suggestions you got here helped you make up a decision...
 
I don't get the point between makeing a reveal and return it...
Do you mean somebody goes to Hermes, spend 8K$, makes a reveal and than bring the bag back just to show it here??? Why somebody should do it? And why if you showed the bag here you shouldn't retourn it? Especially if the suggestions you got here helped you make up a decision...
Maybe to show that they have a lot of birkins or whatever...who knows:graucho:
 
Just to be clear, I'd like the option of returning as well (though I am not much of a returner), but on balance, I'd rather have a "final sale" policy than to unknowingly buy used goods.

If there was a way to guarantee that each buyer would handle the item gingerly as some of you do, I'd be happy with a "no time limitation on returns" policy.

@BlueGenes -- Things do change, but there's the H secondary market.Speaking of which, I wonder how a "final sale" policy would affect resellers' prices.

And… I don't mean to sound all high and mighty about this either… just my $0.02 on these matters...

About the secondary market - it's not that easy to sell, especially if you're not an established seller. And even if you do sell, especially these days, you don't necessarily recoup even 70-80% of what you paid. Selling through a reseller, your repayment is even worse. I agree that H has a better secondary market than most, but it's still not as good as returning for full price.

Yeah, I'm not much of a returner either - haven't returned any of the items I buy at the boutique. I do think a boutique buy is much better than a website buy because you get to decide in person.

I do agree with you though... I'd hate to pay full price at the boutique for clearly used goods. :sad: If H SAs could ensure that all returned goods truly were in tip-top condition before accepting for return, I'd be pretty happy.
 
Buying to reveal and then return sounds like a very odd thing to do... I personally don't see the point but hey, who am I to judge.

In my view it is important that people are able to do returns and exchanges, it is a legal right under commercial law almost everywhere so I don't see how Hermes could go without.

However I agree, some customers may abuse the right and it is important that SAs inspect returns closely to ensure that the items haven't been used.
 
The fact is far less than fair (or more, depending)

If you're the type of customer with at least a quarter million yearly spending, you literally can exchange bags bought more than 2 months ago

If you're the other type that shows up daily hoping to bump into a kelly or birkin, buy the cheapest bracelet or a twilly or gasp, a tie ONCE in a blue moon to make it looks you're a customer

THEN the return is under 10 days, or better less
 
I am disgusted by people who use something and return it. And have seen it blatantly admitted on tpf on occasion (not mentioning which forum).

I have never returned a bag to H. I wouldn't dream of it. I have, however, sold some that did not work out for whatever reason.

I have exchanged one scarf and one shawl. When I got home, I realized they were not my style even though I wanted them to be. They were unused, untied/tried on. I couldn't dream of trying to return an other than pristine/unused/as it came from the shop item. I think with all the patterns, colors, etc., it's a bit harder to be 100 percent sure with scarves and shawls. A no return policy would hurt me there, but I would be horrified to find an obviously used one in the shop.
 
I don't get the point between makeing a reveal and return it...
Do you mean somebody goes to Hermes, spend 8K$, makes a reveal and than bring the bag back just to show it here??? Why somebody should do it? And why if you showed the bag here you shouldn't retourn it? Especially if the suggestions you got here helped you make up a decision...

It's called keeping up with the cyber Jones' and I know it is a difficult concept to swallow.

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I know that the department stores run into this on a regular basis, especially after the Awards shows in LA. All the evening bags are returned!
 
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If there are issues, you can get your money back on eBay regardless of a seller's policy, but when it comes to a lot of designer items, you're paying LESS than retail so the savings help offset the risk. Of course it always helps if you're only buying new to begin with and not used--and then you need a lot of pictures to see what's really up for sale.

If Hermes got rid of their exchange policy, they'd get rid of a lot of thier customers. It's difficult to buy a gift or find the right thing for an outfit if there's no chance of correcting the error. It's not like you can show up with your closet on your back just to make sure something will work.


you know, there are NO returns on most H Ebay items. So if people can make a firm decision from Ebay, they ought to be able to make a firm decision from the H boutique.
 
When I was working at a high-end department store, those in accessories knew that most of the belts would be returned--most likely on a Monday after a party--and that certain fancy jewelry items would be seen again, too. In the designer area, there was a list kept behind the register of the customers that would undoubtedly return their purchase, and it was there for the SAs to know not to count on that commission.

I know that the department stores run into this on a regular basis, especially after the Awards shows in LA. All the evening bags are returned!
 
If there are issues, you can get your money back on eBay regardless of a seller's policy, but when it comes to a lot of designer items, you're paying LESS than retail so the savings help offset the risk. Of course it always helps if you're only buying new to begin with and not used--and then you need a lot of pictures to see what's really up for sale.

If Hermes got rid of their exchange policy, they'd get rid of a lot of thier customers. It's difficult to buy a gift or find the right thing for an outfit if there's no chance of correcting the error. It's not like you can show up with your closet on your back just to make sure something will work.

Absolutely!!

Mistakes or errors in colour choice do happen and not being able to return would end up in a loss in custom or a sudden increase in "faulty" returns
 
I think unfortunately stores' return policies depend on the ethics of customers. Every store that has a generous return policy surely must have crunched the numbers to determine if their liberal return policies erode their bottom lines. Delighting a customer, or at least making a customer feel secure in their purchase has value to the merchant and I have to think that 99.9% of customers would not abuse it. But those .1% -- their shamelessness constantly amazes me!

I like shopping at Nordstroms because they have very good customer service and a ludicrously liberal return policy. I've never had to take advantage of it, but I personally know some people have abused it. Repeatedly. And then there was Costco's policy of no-questions-asked returns of anything but computers. I have coworkers who bragged about buying a high-end tv, returning it two years later for a full refund, then buying a new, better set at the same store for less than the original price. Surprise! Costco revised its return policy.

I've read stories in the NY Times and other sources about Saks and NM salespeople taking back clothing from customers who clearly "bought" the item for one event, and then, having no more use for such an extravagance, got either their mony back or store credit. At least they said to the reporter that the stores didn't try to resell them as new, but sometimes I wonder.

I have to think in the luxury market, some customers have a heightened expectation about what stores should do in terms of customer service. Heck, even moral paragon Marge Simpson cheated a luxury boutique (I wonder what she ever got with that $6K Chanel credit...).

In short (too late, I know) I think the return policy is fine the way it is, and while I hope people don't abuse it, I know some will. I would suggest, however, that there is one thing you can do in an Hermès store that you can't do on eBay, and that is you can INSPECT THE HECK out of an item. And really, if you're spending that kind of money on something, you should feel no apprehension about looking a piece over with a fine-tooth comb. Nor should you feel any hesitation about passing on an item that doesn't meet your expectations, but if you do, I would mention specifically what about the item concerns you. I would hope that if an Hermès salesperson was alerted to cookie crumbs in the bottom of a purportedly new bag, s/he'd be mortified.

And as long as we all haven't resorted to giving gift cards or cash for special occasions there will always be a need for returns.

(Oh, and one quick thing about the shrink wrap. There have been many times where something I was interested in was not displayed, and the SA had to get a shrink-wrapped box out of the back. I always felt guilty when they opened something if it turned out it wasn't quite what I wanted, but just because it's out of its shrink wrap doesn't necessarily mean it's been pawed at.)
 
Not living near a Hermes boutique, I appreciate the 10 day return policy. If you don't want to spend a bazillion dollars on shipping fees, it takes at least 2 days to receive something/send it back. I have returned a few items based on color choices and I appreciate being able to do so. But in each case, the items were in the same condition that I received them and the packing I used to return them was actually better than what H sent.

Having said all that, I do recall an SA trying to convince me to buy a Karo with a small stain in it. She said I could "probably use a q-tip and a little soap to get it out". Based on what I heard about H's standards, I found this to be interesting. Then she really surprised me when she told me the item had been marked for discard because of the stain but if I really wanted it, she could sell it to me. And, yes, I did ask about a discount. And, no, she declined to give me one. Have often wondered if they eventually used that q-tip and sold the item, discarded it, or just put it out hoping a buyer wouldn't notice.
 
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