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Normally I would say get that popcorn out, but alas i am fasting.
Normally I would say get that popcorn out, but alas i am fasting.
Hermès Faces Class Action Suit Over Birkin Sales Practices
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... Although Hermès Sales Associates receive no commission on the most valuable andsought-after products sold by their employer, they are instructed by Defendants to use Birkinhandbags as a way to coerce consumers to purchase ancillary products sold by Defendants ....
Yeah right. Good luck proving that one.
Yeah right. Good luck proving that one.
This has to be the best riposte of the day
So it's the tying thing. How goes the American or English saying: the proof is in the pudding?
Right or wrong, agree or disagree, take it seriously or laugh at it; I am eager to see how this plays out.
If it moves further, this could set a groundbreaking precedent in the world of luxury fashion. It'll be negative for some and positive for others.
If it moves further, this could set a groundbreaking precedent in the world of luxury fashion. It'll be negative for some and positive for others.
It would not be hard to prove, just reading the agonizing threads here and on reddit, shows that it is an absolute known tactic.
Is it why the stock is tanking on the Bourse de Paris?
Anyways, this will be settled as the plaintiffs will just be given their choice of bags for little to no cost.
Is it why the stock is tanking on the Bourse de Paris?
Anyways, this will be settled as the plaintiffs will just be given their choice of bags for little to no cost.
Of course everybody is going to watch this as a hawk.
I have occasionally wondered whether the H shopping journey that we all implicitly acknowledge has the potential to wander into seller discrimination of clients. In particular, reports the Paris experience can feel so random and it's hard not to believe that some degree of profiling occurs. Not a lawyer, but I feel that a strong legal team could put forth a good argument BUT this would require proof which would require inside info and from earlier posts it unfortunately doesn't seem like this legal filing was done in the most professional manner if they can't even get their grammar straight.
That being said, this could be a bit of a nudge for H to move more toward the European wish list policy. Wouldn't be in it's interest to suffer brand backlash.
That being said, this could be a bit of a nudge for H to move more toward the European wish list policy. Wouldn't be in it's interest to suffer brand backlash.
There may be some disgruntled former employees willing to talk.... Although Hermès Sales Associates receive no commission on the most valuable andsought-after products sold by their employer, they are instructed by Defendants to use Birkinhandbags as a way to coerce consumers to purchase ancillary products sold by Defendants ....
Yeah right. Good luck proving that one.
As to comments about sloppiness, there were errors in the filing but it’s not unusual for small firms. Does it make a good impression? No. But they seem to have a couple of experienced litigators who’ve gone after some really big companies and were successful.
I'm thinking this will just be dropped by the court/judge.
And the plaintiffs are just going to be blacklisted.
In order to uphold their system, they should stick with it. Otherwise one exception will lead to another, and it will just fall apart.
Agree at the end of the day Hermes will blacklist the plaintiffs with no BIRKING ( their word) in hand..I'm thinking this will just be dropped by the court/judge.
And the plaintiffs are just going to be blacklisted.
In order to uphold their system, they should stick with it. Otherwise one exception will lead to another, and it will just fall apart.
The system at least in the US is quite opaque. For every one of us who contribute our own experience to the prespend thread, there are many who say that they walk in and are offered the bag of their dreams.
Plus, a class action of those coerced to buy beautiful luxury items. Good luck with that
ETA: re the post above that mentioned watches, Luxury watch companies that limit production (not referring to a large scale like Rolex here) do limit the offer of their most coveted models to current clients of the house. But, it’s hardly considered coercion and certainly not tied to acquisition of product.
Try, for example, walking into Patek to ask for the olive green faced limited nautilus lol.
Plus, a class action of those coerced to buy beautiful luxury items. Good luck with that
ETA: re the post above that mentioned watches, Luxury watch companies that limit production (not referring to a large scale like Rolex here) do limit the offer of their most coveted models to current clients of the house. But, it’s hardly considered coercion and certainly not tied to acquisition of product.
Try, for example, walking into Patek to ask for the olive green faced limited nautilus lol.
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Well recently Chanel won a significant ip case that has potential significant impact on how others can use their marks and with reselling. Legal world was surprised the court went so far. California I think tends to favor consumers? It will be interesting to see how this plays out.I'm thinking this will just be dropped by the court/judge.
And the plaintiffs are just going to be blacklisted.
In order to uphold their system, they should stick with it. Otherwise one exception will lead to another, and it will just fall apart.
For those thinking about joining the suit they very well may get blacklisted if H wins out. Other brands do some level of what H does but H appears to be the most egregious.
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And for those who think there is lack of evidence on tying bags to prespend aren’t there multiple threads on this topic just on here? Bkc prespend and maintaining a relationship? What to buy? What ratios? Let’s be real.
Correction:
For every one hundred of us who communicate our required prespend to the prespend thread (which is traceable and explicit community acknowledgement/evidence of the 'practice'), there is maybe one who says that they walk in and are offered the bag of their dreams.
Now will Hermès EVER admit to it or explicitly acknowledge it? Likely not.
Customers speculating online is hardly court worthy proof...