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Well ladies. Some of you may remember my determined battle cry of “drop a bra size or bust”. (Mindi—how ya like that pun?) Café sitting across Paris and pub hopping across Ireland and Scotland was not a good start to weight loss. But the first two weeks home, it was back to the diet and at least I got back to where I was before the two vacations. Then after the NY meetup, DH gave me the worst cold I have ever had in my life. I have been pathetically weak and ravenously hungry. I am afraid to get on the scale. But I can feel my energy returning and the hunger subsiding. All this talk about no good clothes in a size 16 is motivating me to get disciplined. Diet and exercise—here I come.


We bought a home gym and exercise bicycle about a month ago. It is sort of like adopting a puppy. We have to get to know it and make friends with it. My first forays into using it were hilarious.


Have you ever heard the description of a Texan who is all hat and no cows? Well I was all big dreams and no stamina. I had fantasies of burning 400 calories a day after I got into it. My first time on the exercise bicycle I burned…… wait for it…… a total of 12 calories. To do that, you have to cycle a mile at an incredibly slooooow speed. I bet there is not another person on the forum who could burn so few calories covering a mile. After a week, I had worked myself up to a 25 calorie mile. Eager to make progress, I would do a mile two or three times in the evening. It was a big day when I burned 75 calories on the exercise bicycle AND took a walk. But sadly, I was pushing myself too hard and the tendon on the outside of my knee started to complain. So I had to back off and start pounding the glucosamine drinks.


DH is one of those people who really loves having muscles and is able to get really really strong. Like bench press 400# strong. He will go to the gym every day for a year and then just stop for no known reason. His current dreams are based on what he did formerly. I have to hand it to him. He is pushing himself. He clanks the weights every morning. And then he is cranky all day from being so tired. It is Friday night and he fell asleep in his chair at 7:30. That was 4 hours ago. But having been through this with him before, I know the next phase will be him admiring his muscles in the mirror and measuring them with a tape measure. I guess that is the difference between men and women. Women say “does this dress make me look fat?” Men say “Look at my arms—do my muscles look big?”


I am sharing these sad fitness stories because I always like it when I hear that there is someone who is worse off than me. So I thought I would make all of your days, because all of you have to be more fit than I am. There is also the factor of admitting my pathetic-ness so sort like hitting bottom. This is my version of “My name is Bill and I am an alcoholic.” My name is Cordie and I am a couch potato.


Tomorrow I will amuse you with a few pictures of the exercise room.
 
Well ladies. Some of you may remember my determined battle cry of “drop a bra size or bust”. (Mindi—how ya like that pun?) Café sitting across Paris and pub hopping across Ireland and Scotland was not a good start to weight loss. But the first two weeks home, it was back to the diet and at least I got back to where I was before the two vacations. Then after the NY meetup, DH gave me the worst cold I have ever had in my life. I have been pathetically weak and ravenously hungry. I am afraid to get on the scale. But I can feel my energy returning and the hunger subsiding. All this talk about no good clothes in a size 16 is motivating me to get disciplined. Diet and exercise—here I come.


We bought a home gym and exercise bicycle about a month ago. It is sort of like adopting a puppy. We have to get to know it and make friends with it. My first forays into using it were hilarious.


Have you ever heard the description of a Texan who is all hat and no cows? Well I was all big dreams and no stamina. I had fantasies of burning 400 calories a day after I got into it. My first time on the exercise bicycle I burned…… wait for it…… a total of 12 calories. To do that, you have to cycle a mile at an incredibly slooooow speed. I bet there is not another person on the forum who could burn so few calories covering a mile. After a week, I had worked myself up to a 25 calorie mile. Eager to make progress, I would do a mile two or three times in the evening. It was a big day when I burned 75 calories on the exercise bicycle AND took a walk. But sadly, I was pushing myself too hard and the tendon on the outside of my knee started to complain. So I had to back off and start pounding the glucosamine drinks.


DH is one of those people who really loves having muscles and is able to get really really strong. Like bench press 400# strong. He will go to the gym every day for a year and then just stop for no known reason. His current dreams are based on what he did formerly. I have to hand it to him. He is pushing himself. He clanks the weights every morning. And then he is cranky all day from being so tired. It is Friday night and he fell asleep in his chair at 7:30. That was 4 hours ago. But having been through this with him before, I know the next phase will be him admiring his muscles in the mirror and measuring them with a tape measure. I guess that is the difference between men and women. Women say “does this dress make me look fat?” Men say “Look at my arms—do my muscles look big?”


I am sharing these sad fitness stories because I always like it when I hear that there is someone who is worse off than me. So I thought I would make all of your days, because all of you have to be more fit than I am. There is also the factor of admitting my pathetic-ness so sort like hitting bottom. This is my version of “My name is Bill and I am an alcoholic.” My name is Cordie and I am a couch potato.


Tomorrow I will amuse you with a few pictures of the exercise room.

Cordie, you had me laughing, while also feeling so badly for you! :heart: First off, my DH also just shared such a horrendous cold with me (mine took hold on my birthday, last Mon, and I'm just starting to feel human again, today). If yours was anything like mine, you're likely still depleted and exhausted! And then I'm wondering if you might like interval training, better. It's supposed to be more effective, and takes less time. You exert for very short spurts (for example 60 seconds or 30 seconds) and then you back off for another short amount of time. You continue cycling between high exertion, and backing off for a total of 20-30 min. But you could start with a much shorter total time. It's often called HIIT (high intensity interval training) if you want to look into it. You could easily use your exercise bike for this. I've done it on an elliptical trainer, and really like it. My body has always been better suited to short spurts of energy versus long endurance type sports. Long distance running always felt like torture to me! After what's seemed like one thing after another this past year, I haven't been able to keep up with my regular exercise plan, as much as I'd have liked to, and have lost strength. I'm going to start back slowly, so I don't get too discouraged. I'm thinking of getting a Pelotan bike, to use at home. Looking forward to seeing your exercise room pics! Wish we had a spare room, for a proper set-up! We have such things scattered around the house.
 
Well ladies. Some of you may remember my determined battle cry of “drop a bra size or bust”. (Mindi—how ya like that pun?) Café sitting across Paris and pub hopping across Ireland and Scotland was not a good start to weight loss. But the first two weeks home, it was back to the diet and at least I got back to where I was before the two vacations. Then after the NY meetup, DH gave me the worst cold I have ever had in my life. I have been pathetically weak and ravenously hungry. I am afraid to get on the scale. But I can feel my energy returning and the hunger subsiding. All this talk about no good clothes in a size 16 is motivating me to get disciplined. Diet and exercise—here I come.


We bought a home gym and exercise bicycle about a month ago. It is sort of like adopting a puppy. We have to get to know it and make friends with it. My first forays into using it were hilarious.


Have you ever heard the description of a Texan who is all hat and no cows? Well I was all big dreams and no stamina. I had fantasies of burning 400 calories a day after I got into it. My first time on the exercise bicycle I burned…… wait for it…… a total of 12 calories. To do that, you have to cycle a mile at an incredibly slooooow speed. I bet there is not another person on the forum who could burn so few calories covering a mile. After a week, I had worked myself up to a 25 calorie mile. Eager to make progress, I would do a mile two or three times in the evening. It was a big day when I burned 75 calories on the exercise bicycle AND took a walk. But sadly, I was pushing myself too hard and the tendon on the outside of my knee started to complain. So I had to back off and start pounding the glucosamine drinks.


DH is one of those people who really loves having muscles and is able to get really really strong. Like bench press 400# strong. He will go to the gym every day for a year and then just stop for no known reason. His current dreams are based on what he did formerly. I have to hand it to him. He is pushing himself. He clanks the weights every morning. And then he is cranky all day from being so tired. It is Friday night and he fell asleep in his chair at 7:30. That was 4 hours ago. But having been through this with him before, I know the next phase will be him admiring his muscles in the mirror and measuring them with a tape measure. I guess that is the difference between men and women. Women say “does this dress make me look fat?” Men say “Look at my arms—do my muscles look big?”


I am sharing these sad fitness stories because I always like it when I hear that there is someone who is worse off than me. So I thought I would make all of your days, because all of you have to be more fit than I am. There is also the factor of admitting my pathetic-ness so sort like hitting bottom. This is my version of “My name is Bill and I am an alcoholic.” My name is Cordie and I am a couch potato.


Tomorrow I will amuse you with a few pictures of the exercise room.
Cordy you are making me feel guilty about myself. I think I maybe a bit younger than you? (I'm 33) but every morning when I wake up I have backaches. Standing for long periods of time, my knees and calves hurt. I absolutely have no physical exertion whatsoever. I just wake up, go to work, then back to bed. I know I should start attempting to be fit... but I just don't have the energy for it. So... did I make you feel better by being worse? :)
I envy MrsOwen. She was determined to get her weightloss. If only there was a way to lose weight just by thinking about it...:facepalm:
 
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@momasaurus I couldn't find your original post about the plus size girl winning. Was that show from a past season? I vaguely remember some girl who work puffy lavender dresses or was it lavender hair? There's been a column in Marie Claire I think (I read anything on fashion even if it's not 'age appropriate') which is about a fat girl in a thin world. Initially, the feature showed this poor girl in puffy dresses and pleated skirts, I don't know what the editors were thinking. She was a role model for nobody! It seems in a recent issue the girl lost a bit of weight and she was dressed better, not so much like a clown.
I think these fantasy editorial pieces are done to show the art community how innovative the fashion world can be. That is not why I subscribe.
@catsinthebag, I liked Christian Siriano very much. He was a romantic, with (as I remember) highly feminine pieces. He's the most talented person that show ever had.
No one in Runway makes suits or at least coordinated jackets and bottoms. This is a shame.
It was the gal who won just last year. Ashley Neil Tipton. Purple hair, yes, and quite large herself. Seemed sweet but also a bit devious. I think everyone hated her. I no longer follow America's Top Model (do they still have that?) but I remember at least one plus-sized feature, maybe a winner. It is a shameful state of affairs for sure, when designers admit they are repelled by large bodies.
 
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How about introducing ageism into the mix of this discussion? The joke to me is that women of a certain age have more to spend on better clothing, but the clothing is not there for them to buy. The popular demographic is geared towards their daughters or granddaughters. Feeling marginalized anyone? This extends towards hair and make-up as well. Linda Wells, the founding editor of Allure magazine was dumped for several reasons after 25 years and the fact that she was 56 had to one of them. The person hired is a late 20's-30 year old. The thrust of the magazine has been totally taken in that direction and I decided not renew my 25 year subscription because it does not relate to me in the slightest. I didn't see anything in there for a woman over 25. When Kaia Gerber, age 15 (yes Cindy Crawford's DD) has been signed for a beauty campaign, how are we supposed to relate to that? Grace Mirabella had the right idea almost 30 years ago when she wanted to focus on an older woman because she thought that she had been forgotten. The magazine lasted for 11 years and was never really successful. I suspect that she was ahead of her time.
I loved Mirabella (wasn't that the name of the magazine?) and its ethos.
 
Cordie, don't feel badly. Overcoming the inertia to start is the most difficult part. So sorry that you caught a miserable cold too. I do really well for long stretches of time and then something happens and I stop. It's really hard to restart again. One trick that I try is to find a TV series that I have never seen in Netflix. I only watch it while exercising. That keeps me coming back the next day. It's good to get through the cardio but probably too distracting for weights etc.
 
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Thank you, moma, for mentioning Ashley Nell Tipton's name. I know no one meant any harm, but seeing her referred to as "that plus-sized girl" troubled me. Would any of us be comfortable identifying someone as "that [racial identity] girl"? I don't disagree with Tim Gunn, actually, that her clothes were not attractive and that her win was tokenism, yet the hostility she has faced since (not here, but in the non-tPF world :p) seems in part still grounded in the fact of her designing for, and being, more than sample size. And truly, I don't think she was devious. It's nervy of me to diagnosis her based on a heavily edited, televised view of her. but I think she was damaged. Growing up as a physically larger person--especially a woman--in this culture has a way of doing that. Her purple hair and somewhat over-the-top, girly style were her way of saying, "You may not want to look at me, world, but I am here anyway." IMO, anyhow.
And, yes, a very valid response is, "What do you know, Mindi?" Alternatively, "Do I know you?" :biggrin:
 
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Cordie, don't feel badly. Overcoming the inertia to start is the most difficult part. So sorry that you caught a miserable cold too. I do really well for long stretches of time and then something happens and I stop. It's really hard to restart again. One trick that I try is to find a TV series that I have never seen in Netflix. I only watch it while exercising. That keeps me coming back the next day. It's good to get through the cardio but probably too distracting for weights etc.

This--ITA. I have been "off" this year, too, due to surgery, and it is the hardest thing in the world to get going again. My yoga instructor LOVES working out and does it all day, every day. I so wish I felt that way. I hate it.
 
Thank you, moma, for mentioning Ashley Nell Tipton's name. I know no one meant any harm, but seeing her referred to as "that plus-sized girl" troubled me. Would any of us be comfortable identifying someone as "that [racial identity] girl"? I don't disagree with Tim Gunn, actually, that her clothes were not attractive and that her win was tokenism, yet the hostility she has faced since (not here, but in the non-tPF world :p) seems in part still grounded in the fact of her designing for, and being, more than sample size. And truly, I don't think she was devious. It's nervy of me to diagnosis her based on a heavily edited, televised view of her. but I think she was damaged. Growing up as a physically larger person--especially a woman--in this culture has a way of doing that. Her purple hair and somewhat over-the-top, girly style was her way of saying, "You may not want to look at me, world, but I am here anyway." IMO, anyway.
And, yes, a very valid response is, "What do you know, Mindi?" Alternatively, "Do I know you?" :biggrin:
All true!! I am terrible with names. There was one girl (who befriended/defended Ashley, I think) who had the most annoying, horrible, nasal voice. I can only identify her by that, LOL
 
Thank you, moma, for mentioning Ashley Nell Tipton's name. I know no one meant any harm, but seeing her referred to as "that plus-sized girl" troubled me. Would any of us be comfortable identifying someone as "that [racial identity] girl"? I don't disagree with Tim Gunn, actually, that her clothes were not attractive and that her win was tokenism, yet the hostility she has faced since (not here, but in the non-tPF world :p) seems in part still grounded in the fact of her designing for, and being, more than sample size. And truly, I don't think she was devious. It's nervy of me to diagnosis her based on a heavily edited, televised view of her. but I think she was damaged. Growing up as a physically larger person--especially a woman--in this culture has a way of doing that. Her purple hair and somewhat over-the-top, girly style were her way of saying, "You may not want to look at me, world, but I am here anyway." IMO, anyhow.
And, yes, a very valid response is, "What do you know, Mindi?" Alternatively, "Do I know you?" :biggrin:

I hear you on people referring to Ashley Neil Tipton as "the plus sized girl" being troubling, but in this case, she really marketed herself that way. She came on calling herself "the fat girl" and proclaimed it her mission to create a line for plus-size women. A lot of the time, she seemed to dress to accentuate her size. I know the show is heavily edited, but she often seemed defensive and back-stabby and it was really hard to like her. Although come to think of it, I had trouble liking any of the contestants that season, except maybe the girl who wore the fanny pack who was (IMO) wonderfully down to earth. I didn't like ANT, but there was an episode where most of the other female contestants ganged up on her to try to get her off the show. In one episode, they had to pick teams and although she had won a couple of challenges, she was still picked last. Whether this was fat-shaming or the other contestants just not liking her is hard to tell. What really strikes me in the end is that the fact that she won with those horrible, ugly dresses tells me the talent level on the whole wasn't that high that season. I want to believe if someone really good and innovative had been on, they would have been able to beat her. But maybe I'm just naive!
 
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Well ladies. Some of you may remember my determined battle cry of “drop a bra size or bust”. (Mindi—how ya like that pun?) Café sitting across Paris and pub hopping across Ireland and Scotland was not a good start to weight loss. But the first two weeks home, it was back to the diet and at least I got back to where I was before the two vacations. Then after the NY meetup, DH gave me the worst cold I have ever had in my life. I have been pathetically weak and ravenously hungry. I am afraid to get on the scale. But I can feel my energy returning and the hunger subsiding. All this talk about no good clothes in a size 16 is motivating me to get disciplined. Diet and exercise—here I come.


We bought a home gym and exercise bicycle about a month ago. It is sort of like adopting a puppy. We have to get to know it and make friends with it. My first forays into using it were hilarious.


Have you ever heard the description of a Texan who is all hat and no cows? Well I was all big dreams and no stamina. I had fantasies of burning 400 calories a day after I got into it. My first time on the exercise bicycle I burned…… wait for it…… a total of 12 calories. To do that, you have to cycle a mile at an incredibly slooooow speed. I bet there is not another person on the forum who could burn so few calories covering a mile. After a week, I had worked myself up to a 25 calorie mile. Eager to make progress, I would do a mile two or three times in the evening. It was a big day when I burned 75 calories on the exercise bicycle AND took a walk. But sadly, I was pushing myself too hard and the tendon on the outside of my knee started to complain. So I had to back off and start pounding the glucosamine drinks.


DH is one of those people who really loves having muscles and is able to get really really strong. Like bench press 400# strong. He will go to the gym every day for a year and then just stop for no known reason. His current dreams are based on what he did formerly. I have to hand it to him. He is pushing himself. He clanks the weights every morning. And then he is cranky all day from being so tired. It is Friday night and he fell asleep in his chair at 7:30. That was 4 hours ago. But having been through this with him before, I know the next phase will be him admiring his muscles in the mirror and measuring them with a tape measure. I guess that is the difference between men and women. Women say “does this dress make me look fat?” Men say “Look at my arms—do my muscles look big?”


I am sharing these sad fitness stories because I always like it when I hear that there is someone who is worse off than me. So I thought I would make all of your days, because all of you have to be more fit than I am. There is also the factor of admitting my pathetic-ness so sort like hitting bottom. This is my version of “My name is Bill and I am an alcoholic.” My name is Cordie and I am a couch potato.


Tomorrow I will amuse you with a few pictures of the exercise room.[/QUOTE
You had me laughing! I admit we have had at least 2 exercycles in this house. I never could get into it.
DH used them for awhile.
For me, walking is what I do now.
 
How about introducing ageism into the mix of this discussion? The joke to me is that women of a certain age have more to spend on better clothing, but the clothing is not there for them to buy. The popular demographic is geared towards their daughters or granddaughters. Feeling marginalized anyone? This extends towards hair and make-up as well. Linda Wells, the founding editor of Allure magazine was dumped for several reasons after 25 years and the fact that she was 56 had to one of them. The person hired is a late 20's-30 year old. The thrust of the magazine has been totally taken in that direction and I decided not renew my 25 year subscription because it does not relate to me in the slightest. I didn't see anything in there for a woman over 25. When Kaia Gerber, age 15 (yes Cindy Crawford's DD) has been signed for a beauty campaign, how are we supposed to relate to that? Grace Mirabella had the right idea almost 30 years ago when she wanted to focus on an older woman because she thought that she had been forgotten. The magazine lasted for 11 years and was never really successful. I suspect that she was ahead of her time.

Yes! I'm a size 4-6, but just turned 50 this year and shopping is a PITA. Last time I went shopping for jeans, I ended up asking the sales person if, in their dozens or maybe hundreds of pairs of jeans, they had a single pair of straight leg jeans. Not skinny jeans, not low-rise, not high-rise, not extremely long flared boot-cut, just plain old straight leg jeans. Everything is cut skinny right now, and I personally don't want my jeans to fit like leggings. It makes me feel like my thighs are two sausage casings. Other clothes are just as difficult. I don't want to look like Jackie Kennedy in the 50s, nor to I want to bare my midriff.

I look younger than I am, so maybe I could carry some of these styles off, but I don't want to. I want to look contemporary but not like I'm trying to be 20. Not to mention so many sweaters are ginormously oversized. I don't mind a little length, but everything is so boxy. If I wore what was readily available, I'd have the sausage casings on the bottom and a big boxy tent on the top! This should not be so difficult, but it is.
 
Catsinthebag, isn't there maybe a little similarity between Ashley Nell Tipton declaring herself "the fat girl" (when, let's face it, that's how most people see her--she might as well embrace it) and your telling us your (small) size and the fact that you look younger than your age? Your slenderness and youthful appearance are fun and wonderful and worth enjoying, but isn't the real difference between my saying, "Good for you, catsinthebag, I bet you look amazing" and saying, "Negative, fat-focused reactions are ANT's fault, since she drew attention to her size" a function of WHAT size is being discussed?
And as for "dressing to accentuate her size": I totally understand what you mean and I don't disagree, but I do find it interesting that we all sort of automatically assume that she shouldn't. Why shouldn't she? Smaller women dress to accentuate THEIR size. . . And in fact, right now oversized looks are in, so sample size women are chic for wearing garments that make them look larger than they are, but plus-sized women are slovenly for NOT dressing to look smaller than they are?
I am truly not picking a fight with you--You didn't say anything wrong. I am just unpacking the way our culture thinks--myself included. I find it interesting and sort of insidious.
Hope this doesn't come across as judgmental or preachy. I am just pondering out loud and I am by NO means immune to societal attitudes. Quite the opposite.
 
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