Tailoring! That's the magic though I'm terrible about having things altered to fit me.
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Tailoring! That's the magic though I'm terrible about having things altered to fit me.
Very true, that is partially why I never get things fitted and learned to hem my pants myself!
A great deal of size is regional and 16-. Point well taken about the designers. An 8 or a 10 is considered a large today in haute fashiion. Some do not even go beyond a 10 I get these emails from EU fashiion sites and when I go to look at the item, the largest they have is a 6. The positive side of not being able to purchase these things, most if not all are horribly expensive and overpriced. The other thing I find is that they are all cut for the body of a 20 something and that is a whole other issue! I have a good figure, but I am not 20!
JUST THIS WEEK I finished watching Project Runway when the plus-sized gal won. I thought her clothes were awful. PASTEL and LACE? UGH. Give me costumes any day, LOL. But did her "win" draw any attention to the issue of designing for the average woman? Was it Heidi's idea to have her win? Honestly, week after week her stuff was bad. I appreciate the issue, though.
Very interesting article Cordie. Thanks for sharing. The attitudes expressed by Karl but even more so by AandF who sell to young girls are disgusting.
Today brought some unexpected news at work. Trying to digest it all.
Hope everyone has a good weekend.
Today brought some unexpected news at work. Trying to digest it all.
Hope everyone has a good weekend.
DH and I follow Project Runway too, and I have to say, I agree -- the winning contestant's designs were hideous. It's almost a relief to read Tim Gunn's opinion. These clothes weren't just awful for plus-sized women, they were awful for everyone!
I admired Christian Siriano the season he won Project Runway -- his designs were so creative and he worked so hard. And when they did the pre-final show where Tim Gunn visits the contestants, they showed that CS was basically sleeping on the floor of his closet in order to have the rest of his small apartment to design in. I loved the way he stepped up to dress Leslie Jones. I think he was quoted as saying something along the lines of, Every girl deserves a pretty dress. My hero.
Does anyone remember a Velasquez painting of a little girl as a Spanish Infanta? (this is really going somewhere). Her dress widened out on the sides, I think it's called panniers (but the dictionary is not agreeing with me
). (Anyhow, if the dress was bunched up over the hips and was slender on the sides, it'd be a bustle. Just trying to orient you). I knew this woman who, when she lost weight, evidently lost in her backside and tum but she remained the same width,like she was wearing panniers. It was the weirdest thing, the poor girl had to really really slim down to look less wide. Maybe it was a question of broad shoulders combined with wide hips. Thank heavens for stretch fabrics.
@momasaurus I couldn't find your original post about the plus size girl winning. Was that show from a past season? I vaguely remember some girl who work puffy lavender dresses or was it lavender hair? There's been a column in Marie Claire I think (I read anything on fashion even if it's not 'age appropriate') which is about a fat girl in a thin world. Initially, the feature showed this poor girl in puffy dresses and pleated skirts, I don't know what the editors were thinking. She was a role model for nobody! It seems in a recent issue the girl lost a bit of weight and she was dressed better, not so much like a clown.
I think these fantasy editorial pieces are done to show the art community how innovative the fashion world can be. That is not why I subscribe.
@catsinthebag, I liked Christian Siriano very much. He was a romantic, with (as I remember) highly feminine pieces. He's the most talented person that show ever had.
No one in Runway makes suits or at least coordinated jackets and bottoms. This is a shame.
OMG That would be so demoralizing!!!
I think the mention of the plus sized girl winning was in the article I linked to.
Having to design and make the clothes quickly is such a big part of the show, I'm sure the designers choose dresses over suits and coordinated pants/jackets because I dress is just so much easier to make. They really amp up the time pressure. As talented as Chrisitan Siriano is, part of the reason he won is that he could sew FAST.
I find it exhausting to dig through a whole floor of brands to find the one or two lines that are not too matronly, not too childish, and that are not designed for 6'0 tall ectomorphs. I've found a few mid priced brands that are decent, through trial and error, but I balk at making a quality error at a higher price point.
Plus when I'm paying in the multiple hundreds and up for a piece, I expect it to fit better than a $99 one.
Plus when I'm paying in the multiple hundreds and up for a piece, I expect it to fit better than a $99 one.
How about introducing ageism into the mix of this discussion? The joke to me is that women of a certain age have more to spend on better clothing, but the clothing is not there for them to buy. The popular demographic is geared towards their daughters or granddaughters. Feeling marginalized anyone? This extends towards hair and make-up as well. Linda Wells, the founding editor of Allure magazine was dumped for several reasons after 25 years and the fact that she was 56 had to one of them. The person hired is a late 20's-30 year old. The thrust of the magazine has been totally taken in that direction and I decided not renew my 25 year subscription because it does not relate to me in the slightest. I didn't see anything in there for a woman over 25. When Kaia Gerber, age 15 (yes Cindy Crawford's DD) has been signed for a beauty campaign, how are we supposed to relate to that? Grace Mirabella had the right idea almost 30 years ago when she wanted to focus on an older woman because she thought that she had been forgotten. The magazine lasted for 11 years and was never really successful. I suspect that she was ahead of her time.