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Monceau said:
Hi foodie007, perhaps I can clarify here. My post that you referred to was in response to an item posted by Calexandre that was clearly a fake "La Femme"
As mistikat mentioned,we don't discuss telltale signs of counterfeits, but this one was easy to spot because this design was never offered in the format listed.

Even reputable sellers are fooled sometimes, so it is always wise to seek the knowledge of
the wonderful members on the authenticity thread.
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I just want to add that your post and Calexandre's were about a specific fake item which is the purpose of the thread.


If anyone has or thinks they have a fake, please get it checked by an authentication service before questioning here whether or not it may be fake.
 
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foodie007 said:
I'm new to Hermes and was wondering whether people can comment on why they think an item is fake...the bags have been obvious for me, but the scarves, not as much.

I am privately having bababebi authenicate all my bags (and communication with her has been excellent.) Reading this, I am concern about the few scarves I have purchased from TheRealReal. I look at real and fake scarves side by side and struggle to see the difference.

I think it would really make this thread helpful for newbies. TIA!
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Hello and welcome to tPF.
Yes, most of the scarf posts are by me and I won't explain why I could tell it's fake on a public forum, because anyone can see it. Imagine if counterfeiters read and make even better fakes?
Regarding your second paragraph about TRR, it's often not recommended that you post a blanket comments, say, for example "I bought so many scarves from seller ABC, now I'm scared." Truth is that there are some sellers who are mixed bags who will sell both real and fake items intentionally or unintentionally. The purpose of this thread is not to generate fear, buyer remorse, and boycotting, but rather to educate buyers. The more you compare side by side with a real scarf and discover the differences, the more you will learn why a H scarf costs as much as it does and why you should spend that much money on it. Also, it's a reminder for everyone to remain vigilant and authenticate if not sure, for peace of mind. Just because a seller sells authentic stuff 99% of time doesn't mean you will not buy the remaining 1%.
That said, if you have any concern regarding authenticity --> post in the authenticate thread BEFORE purchasing. If you see something and know it's fake 100%, then post here with the link and seller name, for a specific item.
Sorry mods for being off topic.
 
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Chestnutty said:
Hello and welcome to tPF.
Yes, most of the scarf posts are by me and I won't explain why I could tell it's fake on a public forum, because anyone can see it. Imagine if counterfeiters read and make even better fakes?
Regarding your second paragraph about TRR, it's often not recommended that you post a blanket comments, say, for example "I bought so many scarves from seller ABC, now I'm scared." Truth is that there are some sellers who are mixed bags who will sell both real and fake items intentionally or unintentionally. The purpose of this thread is not to generate fear, buyer remorse, and boycotting, but rather to educate buyers. The more you compare side by side with a real scarf and discover the differences, the more you will learn why a H scarf costs as much as it does and why you should spend that much money on it. Also, it's a reminder for everyone to remain vigilant and authenticate if not sure, for peace of mind. Just because a seller sells authentic stuff 99% of time doesn't mean you will not buy the remaining 1%.
That said, if you have any concern regarding authenticity --> post in the authenticate thread BEFORE purchasing. If you see something and know it's fake 100%, then post here with the link and seller name, for a specific item.
Sorry mods for being off topic.
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You put this extremely well, chestnutty. Thank you for a well-thought-out and informative post.:smile1:
 
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I am new, and these rules have been hard for me to figure out too. If I may offer a humble suggestion for explaining the rules to future newbies:

The phrase "blanket denunciation" is confusing matters and does not seem to help explain the rules.

Monceau wrote, "[...] The Realreal has listed numerous fakes and their "authentication" process is minimal, at best. [...] Buyer beware, I would be very cautious shopping with this site."

This IS a blanket denunciation, but everybody seems to be agreeing that is allowed on TPF -- because it was made in the context of a specific fake, yes?

Foodie007 basically said, "Wow, what people are saying is making me nervous about my purchases from The Realreal."

General concern statements like that show up all over TPF. The threads about bluefly are full of them, for example:

http://forum.purseblog.com/chanel-shopping/naked-esque-chanel-bags-on-bluefly-110473.html

http://forum.purseblog.com/hermes-shopping/hermes-birkin-on-bluefly-303746.html?highlight=bluefly

I understand why TPF wants to keep those kinds of general seller doubts off this thread and others. Makes sense. But instead of telling the concerned person that "blanket denunciations" aren't allowed, maybe the concerned person could be told to either 1) limit the concerns to discussions of a known fake, or 2) confine them to the reseller-discussion thread?
 
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Belphoebe said:
I am new, and these rules have been hard for me to figure out too. If I may offer a humble suggestion for explaining the rules to future newbies:

The phrase "blanket denunciation" is confusing matters and does not seem to help explain the rules.

Monceau wrote, "[...] The Realreal has listed numerous fakes and their "authentication" process is minimal, at best. [...] Buyer beware, I would be very cautious shopping with this site."

This IS a blanket denunciation, but everybody seems to be agreeing that is allowed on TPF -- because it was made in the context of a specific fake, yes?

Foodie007 basically said, "Wow, what people are saying is making me nervous about my purchases from The Realreal."

General concern statements like that show up all over TPF. The threads about bluefly are full of them, for example:

http://forum.purseblog.com/chanel-shopping/naked-esque-chanel-bags-on-bluefly-110473.html

http://forum.purseblog.com/hermes-shopping/hermes-birkin-on-bluefly-303746.html?highlight=bluefly

I understand why TPF wants to keep those kinds of general seller doubts off this thread and others. Makes sense. But instead of telling the concerned person that "blanket denunciations" aren't allowed, maybe the concerned person could be told to either 1) limit the concerns to discussions of a known fake, or 2) confine them to the reseller-discussion thread?
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Several people have now said several times that discussions should be limited to a known fake. There are some sellers who have inadvertently let a fake slip through. It's unfair to then extrapolate from that, as has been done on occasion in this thread, that therefore anything purchased from that seller is automatically suspect.

Some sites sell nothing but fakes and they do so deliberately. But sometimes a fake will slip through the hands of even the most reputable seller. What it means is that any buyer needs to do their due diligence before purchasing - and we have said this over and over about every single purchase, no matter how reputable the seller.

Monceau's comment was about a specific situation (that there were examples, posted here, of fakes listed by this seller) and she didn't say the all seller's items were suspect just that, as has been pointed out, the buyer should do their due diligence.

As for the threads you posted, all I can tell you is that in this thread and in the Hermes subforum in general, the above has been the custom for as long as I have been a member. Different subforums have different cultures that have grown up over time but in general, fakes are not tolerated anywhere on PF (except in threads designed to point them out), and they should be posted only when a member is 100 per cent sure the item is actually fake.

This thread is for specific examples of fakes - not speculation over whether or not an item is fake, or a seller is reputable. The reseller thread is similar. Again, as has been said before, do your due diligence and know your seller.

I am happy to discuss this further via PM if anyone still has questions.

Thanks.
 
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Mmm is it right to simply say this a fake?

How is that comment justified. Not a challenge to you but just a question on how you recognized it.

I commented on another Post on using eBay and was advised (warned off) that I was not to get involved in a discussion.

If one is a Hermes collector then buy from the outlet or from a known person on this Forum. There are numerous people on here.

Suffice to say I cannot see what this Thread is trying to achieve.

I am not trying to hi - jack the Thread or deviate from the initial Threads starters aim, but whats the point in Posting pictures and adding dialogue in Posts showing fakes.

I know a fake Porsche, Ferrari etc and when on my car Forums, I/we discuss not only the particular car but generally discuss the danger, identification of, sellers and other options...:idea:
 
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Camera Kid said:
Mmm is it right to simply say this a fake?

How is that comment justified. Not a challenge to you but just a question on how you recognized it.

I commented on another Post on using eBay and was advised (warned off) that I was not to get involved in a discussion.

If one is a Hermes collector then buy from the outlet or from a known person on this Forum. There are numerous people on here.

Suffice to say I cannot see what this Thread is trying to achieve.

I am not trying to hi - jack the Thread or deviate from the initial Threads starters aim, but whats the point in Posting pictures and adding dialogue in Posts showing fakes.

I know a fake Porsche, Ferrari etc and when on my car Forums, I/we discuss not only the particular car but generally discuss the danger, identification of, sellers and other options...:idea:
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This is a thread where people WHO ACTUALLY KNOW an item is fake , can post that item. It's a kind of "Warning" for the other member who could be tempted to buy.
 
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Chestnutty, I was so excited when I saw a C'est la fete on eBay so reasonably priced that I run on the Hermes find thread to post the link. Then I looked better and saw exactly what you saw. I am glad that reading your post here confirmed my impression. I hope the seller will take the scarf off of sale now.

Camerakid, there are many online resources illustrating how to spot a fake. In some cases, like here, it is fairly easy to see. I think that as clients of Hermes, we should be thankful to have some guidance on how to defend ourselves and the brand we love from organizations illegitimately stealing all the expertise that goes behind a design.
 
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:smile1:

Thanks that's makes sense.

I just thought an explanation or discussion on how one arrived at the decision or identified a fake would be worthwhile.

I again subscribe to buying from the outlet or off a known Forum member. Just my opinion though.

Thanks gain.
 
#4,647
birkin.barbie said:
And this next one needs no introduction. :throwup:

Seller: lananesterova2010
Item: 291351079784
Link: http://ebay.to/14N8C4a
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Question re: rules of the thread: Awful and flat-out copycat as this bag is, does it really count as a fake if it doesn't say Hermes anywhere on the bag or in the description? The word "Birkin" is intentionally misleading, of course, but the listing openly attributes it to another maker, with a tag. (And while it's too expensive for what it is, it's not being offered at a Birkin price point.)

I don't like deceptive products and listings, and I wouldn't want anyone to fall for it. But is it the intention of this thread to focus only on those that are clear, unambiguous frauds?

(No slight intended, OP: I am new myself and learning the rules.)
 
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birkin.barbie said:
Don't let the pictures of this bag fool you. They were stolen from a reputable seller. Always avoid minimal feedback sellers!

Seller: eleelesxcmobe9v
Item: 231451046619
Link: http://ebay.to/1AJRaZ2

And this next one needs no introduction. :throwup:

Seller: lananesterova2010
Item: 291351079784
Link: http://ebay.to/14N8C4a
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Belphoebe said:
Question re: rules of the thread: Awful and flat-out copycat as this bag is, does it really count as a fake if it doesn't say Hermes anywhere on the bag or in the description? The word "Birkin" is intentionally misleading, of course, but the listing openly attributes it to another maker, with a tag. (And while it's too expensive for what it is, it's not being offered at a Birkin price point.)

I don't like deceptive products and listings, and I wouldn't want anyone to fall for it. But is it the intention of this thread to focus only on those that are clear, unambiguous frauds?

(No slight intended, OP: I am new myself and learning the rules.)
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The second one does not belong in this thread. There are no Hermes markings on it.

If there is doubt as to what belongs here, please refer to the first post or ask a moderator. Thanks.
 
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mistikat said:
The second one does not belong in this thread. There are no Hermes markings on it.

If there is doubt as to what belongs here, please refer to the first post or ask a moderator. Thanks.
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Roger that. :tup:

Keep an eye out for these pictures. They have been used by multiple users in several eBay listings from Bulgaria and Czech Republic. A friend of mine won one of the auctions with the same pictures, which has since been removed by eBay, and received a high quality fake.

Seller: hrimarsa
Item: 251763610718
Link: http://ebay.to/1y9908q
 
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birkin.barbie said:
Roger that. :tup:

Keep an eye out for these pictures. They have been used by multiple users in several eBay listings from Bulgaria and Czech Republic. A friend of mine won one of the auctions with the same pictures, which has since been removed by eBay, and received a high quality fake.

Seller: hrimarsa
Item: 251763610718
Link: http://ebay.to/1y9908q
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The bag shown in the pictures is not authentic.
 
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