Fjord in black does not look gray when you see it in person. It is not a jet black however KWIM? I have found Togo to be durable as well, but it is not as scratch resistant as fjord IMHO.Thanks for all the good thoughts. I think swift is less durable than fjord so, although I love the slouchiness of swift. It sounds like fjord is really sturdy and that is good because this would be a workhorse bag but I am concerned that the Fjord black may look grey, not black. Is togo durable in a Birkin?