Hi, everyone. I've been reading and reading and reading all of the unbelievably detailed and informative posts in the Hermes forum (you people should get together and publish an encyclopedia). And you would think that with all of the information that's available here I would be able to figure this out on my own. But I can't. So if you can help me organize my thoughts, I could use some advice. I'd like a birkin, and I'm sure of the color: etoupe. I'm sure of the size: 35. I'm pretty sure that togo isn't my leather, and I'm ruling out the expensive exotics. Etoupe is, I know, available in swift, but I haven't seen it listed as one of the colors available in box. So while I know that box is my kind of leather, I think it is ruled out for this purchase. I think that leaves swift. Is that right? But feedback on swift birkins - and there are a lot of posts - are divided on the slouch factor. Some have written that swift is so supple that the bag will have a sort of batwing look. Others, though, describe it as firmer than togo. I finally read through the "Stars and their Hermes" posts - all one hundred million of them - trying to get a grip on this batwing effect, and I am more lost than ever. Some togo Birkins look perfectly rectangular, some look slouchy. Some swift Birkins look rectangular...so, here I am. I'd get it in box if I could, but since I can't, I'm thinking of swift, and in spite of all the thousands of words already posted about this, I'm unable to figure out how to buy the birkin in etoupe without getting a bag that will lose the rectangular look. (I know some people like that look, but this is going to be a first AND last Birkin in my case, and I would rather have the rectangular look.) Is the slouch the leather? Is it what you carry in the bag? How you adjust the straps? Whether you use a liner? The sign you were born under? Help!