Exactly what IS Spy's *NAPPA* Leather???

  1. I :heart:love:heart:my Zucca/Nappa Spy from Jomashop! But her leather has always intrigued me. Can her leather be conditioned with Apple Garde Care Conditioner? Why did she have a funny non-leather smell when I first got her from Jomashop? Why does her leather feel soft, yet also feel like it's not really leather? Is it "pebbled" leather as Saks describes it? http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?JSESSIONID=G9fhBGcwB3JGpdQn9yfBk9T80tpcJmGkj43llcs3PPSTy13TW2qF!4764400&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524446162895&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=282574492703114&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395222441&bmUID=1182605281800
    Does anyone know the answers to these questions??? If so... please share what you know!

    Compared to some of my other bags, especially my Chloes, it's easier to tell if it's calfskin or lambskin because it's either described as one or the other, you can see the grain and you can go a little by feel. And on some store sites only the honey, blueberry and white Spy bags are specifically described as "lambskin." http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?itemId=prod35820859&parentId=cat9270735&masterId=cat9230740&index=8&cmCat=cat000000cat000141cat000143cat9230%20%20740cat9270735

    But my Zucca Spy is only described as "Nappa Leather." http://diabro.net/product_info.php/cPath/192_942/products_id/7066
    I've read that there are different types of Nappa (aka, Napa): Is it Nappa calfskin? Nappa lambskin? It's definitely not "napped" leather (aka, nubuck) which is skin that has been buffed on the grain side and is soft like suede (which is skin buffed on the flesh side). Therefore it might be fine to condition with Apple Garde.

    So after doing some preliminary research, I still don't know if my Zucca Spy has calf or lambskin leather. But using the info from "All About Leather" http://www.all-about-leather.co.uk/allabout/leather/leathertypes.php
    I've somewhat concluded that it may be "semi-aniline" with pigmentation, or even "full grain pigmented leather" which might explain the funny non-leather odor (thankfully the smell went away!)

    :confused1:WHAT DO THE REST OF YOU GALS THINK?:confused1:
  2. Hey Layney,
    I have no answer for your question, but I did use the apple garde on my zucca and it worked well! I even used the water and stain repellant. IMHO the color looks a bit more even now and the two spots have seemed to disappear. Texture wise I don't feel any difference as the leather was already soft.
    I hope this helps!

    On a side note, oxyclean works wonders on the inside of the bag!!!! It almost looks brand new!
  3. I took this definition off a PETA-like website...
    Nappa is a soft, full grain leather made from unsplit sheepskin, lambskin, or kidskin, usually tanned with alum and chromium salts and dyed throughout usually by drum coloring (the skins are immersed in dye and tumbled in a wheel-shaped drum for hours to allow maximum dye penetration).

    "Pebbled" leather is used to desribe the leather's grainy texture. The grains tend to vary from really fine to large, coarser ones like the Spy's leather.

    As far as leather treatments, I always take mine to a reputable shoe/luggage repair shop or ask a fine retailer(Saks, Neimans...etc.) for a referral, at least for the first cleaning. I always ask the shoe cobbler to recommend products because one product doesn't always apply to all leather; it could discolor certain leathers.

    Good luck! Take care of your baby:heart:
  4. Oh, Ali - I'm so very :nuts:happy:nuts: for you! Your Spy cleaned up nicely with Apple Garde and Oxyclean!!! And you saved lots of $$$ too!!! Can you post an "after" pic for us to see the result?
  5. I will try:sweatdrop: !!!! lets hope it works this time...lol!
  6. The Fendi Spy nappa is specifically lambskin.
  7. Thanks Greendrv!!!