Docride's Hermes vintage bag nightmares & Hermes leather care

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Hi Doc.

I have a less than a week old Hermes Evelyne III PM in casaque red and taurillon clemence leather. Just this afternoon, I noticed a black color transfer on its edges and some on its body where the bag touched possibly my black cardigan. How do I remove this? 😐 Thanks!
 
#784
Hi Docride :)

I am new to Hermes forum but have been reading your restoration post and blog! Very impressive indeed :)

I also know that it is a dumb question, but I guess it would not hurt asking for the ease of my mind. Recently I have found reseller who sell Birkin 28 from 2006 in Bleu Jean. BUT she said it has been redye by the previous owner, which I read in tPF that Hermes does not offer such a service, and they may refuse your bag for Spa service in the future.

Would it be possible to remove the dye and do something with it? or it is just not worth all the mess at all?

I would assume that it would be hard to restore, unless I keep applying the dye when it needs to be repair. Then I should keep my eyes open for the other Birkin 28 that would come out in the market :(
 
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docride said:
Hi there, great question. Id be happy to look at the bag for you. A key thing to keep n mind is that if some parts of a bag are badly cracked then other parts may be weakend also suffice to say sometimes its not just a case of replacing straps or a handle at all... often times the rest of the bag is too weak to support the new stitches needed for repairs.. this is the most important thing to keep in mind... will this bag be sturdy enough to be repaired?
All the best,doc
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You are SO fantastic to offer to look at the bag for me, and I hope I can take you up on that offer soon, for another bag. After reading your comment I asked the seller about seams and was told they are disjointed. I walked away from the bag because what you said about the bag being sturdy enough makes a whole lot of sense. Thank you for potentially saving me a lot of $$ and heartache.

Also - I saw a photo on Instagram of a bag you engraved and your work is flawless 💕💕
 
#786
Hi Doc,

I hope all is well.

I have a few small cracks on my box Kelly. Would you give me some advice on how to fix them please?

I bought a Luxury Again Hand Polishing Kit For Box Calf Designer Bags. I am not sure whether polishing would help filling the cracks. Would you advise if I need a different kit please?

Thanks so much for your help.
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candiholics said:
Hi Docride :)

I am new to Hermes forum but have been reading your restoration post and blog! Very impressive indeed :)

I also know that it is a dumb question, but I guess it would not hurt asking for the ease of my mind. Recently I have found reseller who sell Birkin 28 from 2006 in Bleu Jean. BUT she said it has been redye by the previous owner, which I read in tPF that Hermes does not offer such a service, and they may refuse your bag for Spa service in the future.

Would it be possible to remove the dye and do something with it? or it is just not worth all the mess at all?

I would assume that it would be hard to restore, unless I keep applying the dye when it needs to be repair. Then I should keep my eyes open for the other Birkin 28 that would come out in the market :(
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Hi there,
So yes a dyed bag is usually not accepted by Hermes for servicing. As to removing the dye.. . is it a spray on or acrylic type finish or if its an actual alcohol or oil based dye which sinks into the leather ? Is the leather smooth and with small pores? Or is it a textured leather?
A smooth finished leather with small pores like box calf with an acrylic costing on it can sometimes be removed... however one wonders what lies below that someone wished covered over in the first place? These sorts of projects are risky and not often successful, I have tackled a few.... if its IMO you are best off waiting for a bag that's not painted unless the bag is so attractively priced that you are hesitant to not leave it.


If the bag is textured(togo fjord,ardennes etc) and or the bag has large pores and or the leather is unfinished (barenia,vache natural) or its a lighter color below and a darker color has been placed over it then my advice is not to attempt to remove the paint ... also if its been oil dyed it wont come off in anycase... so run away and don't muck with it....
Also a 28 cm Birkin? Actually perhaps it is a 28cm HAC which is similar to a Birkin but it has shorter handles and the bag is a bit taller .


Gosh I hope ive answered your questions?


All the best,doc
 
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Dahls said:
You are SO fantastic to offer to look at the bag for me, and I hope I can take you up on that offer soon, for another bag. After reading your comment I asked the seller about seams and was told they are disjointed. I walked away from the bag because what you said about the bag being sturdy enough makes a whole lot of sense. Thank you for potentially saving me a lot of $$ and heartache.

Also - I saw a photo on Instagram of a bag you engraved and your work is flawless 💕💕
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I am very happy I was able to help :)
Take heart.....
Your bag is out there....
Happy hunting!
All the best,doc
 
#790
docride said:
Hi there,
So yes a dyed bag is usually not accepted by Hermes for servicing. As to removing the dye.. . is it a spray on or acrylic type finish or if its an actual alcohol or oil based dye which sinks into the leather ? Is the leather smooth and with small pores? Or is it a textured leather?
A smooth finished leather with small pores like box calf with an acrylic costing on it can sometimes be removed... however one wonders what lies below that someone wished covered over in the first place? These sorts of projects are risky and not often successful, I have tackled a few.... if its IMO you are best off waiting for a bag that's not painted unless the bag is so attractively priced that you are hesitant to not leave it.


If the bag is textured(togo fjord,ardennes etc) and or the bag has large pores and or the leather is unfinished (barenia,vache natural) or its a lighter color below and a darker color has been placed over it then my advice is not to attempt to remove the paint ... also if its been oil dyed it wont come off in anycase... so run away and don't muck with it....
Also a 28 cm Birkin? Actually perhaps it is a 28cm HAC which is similar to a Birkin but it has shorter handles and the bag is a bit taller .


Gosh I hope ive answered your questions?


All the best,doc
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Thank you doc! That was a very comprehensive answer!

My bad, the bag is birgin 25, not 28. And it's in Epsom leather. I really don't know what kind of dye they use, but I could see the paint cracking... So I will stay away from it and look keep my eyes even wider!
 
#791
Precious84 said:
Hi Doc.

I have a less than a week old Hermes Evelyne III PM in casaque red and taurillon clemence leather. Just this afternoon, I noticed a black color transfer on its edges and some on its body where the bag touched possibly my black cardigan. How do I remove this? 😐 Thanks!
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If its JUST happened a leather cleansing wipe (NOT A BABY WIPE) can help also a soft pink eraser gently used can often times lift off color transfers which are fresh.
However, if not fresh the dye transfer may be setting in color transfer removers are available by several companies ..... Always make sure you test any product on a small hidden area first before attacking larger visible areas.
All the best,doc
 
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docride said:
I would ask that if you have an Hermes leather or restoration question your would post it here
Thank you.
All the best doc
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Hi docride! You've done some amazing work! I was wondering if you could take a look at a HAC 50 of mine and see if it could be recolored. It's vache natural but had a patina. I'm looking to go much darker like a dark chocolate brown.
 
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BirkinBoyNYC said:
Hi docride! You've done some amazing work! I was wondering if you could take a look at a HAC 50 of mine and see if it could be recolored. It's vache natural but had a patina. I'm looking to go much darker like a dark chocolate brown.
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Hi there,
Vache Naturalle usually takes up dye nicely.... Are you posting a photo?
All the best doc
 
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