I don't know how consistent they are with leathers, but last time I went to a store (autumn 2007), the leather on an oak Bayswater was very stiff and the texture quite different compared to some oak Bayswaters I've fondled If I remember right, there was a black or choco Bayswater made of the softer Darwin, so I was a bit disappointed. The SA just said 'well leathers on bags are never identical'. Duh. And I thought they clone Darwins for the bags