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Oh, I forgot one complaint, the kisslock pocket makes it sag on the inside too. I just don't carry enough stuff to justify this bag. Since yours was a gift from your fiance, why don't you just use it when you are going to be with him, like out to eat and such? I had to do that with a bag that was given to me as a gift and I wasn't fond of the bag.....to prevent hurt feelings I just used the bag when the they were around.....which luckily wasn't that often.

I was wonder why the bag caves in that spot!! The kisslock pocket!!

I'm with him all the time!! haha He knows how I feel about it, but I also tell him I do love it. I mean, I am so back and forth. I do love it. I just wish I could carry it with me everywhere!
 
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I'm not a fan of kiss lock pockets inside the bags. They look great outside the bags like the limited edition legacy bags. I was shocked to see the kiss lock pocket inside the Badlands color block satchels. While it's cute no one sees it except the owner of the bag and it adds unnecessary weight to the bag. I would've been fine with a zippered pocket inside. But 1941 bags have this kiss lock pocket inside, right? I read a review of the rogue satchel that said the kiss lock pocket was too small for the satchel.
 
I have also noticed all the rogues on the resale market that they were all slouching. Now I know why. It's the darn kiss lock pocket! I don't think the Rogue 25 is affected by it. Those of you who own the 25, can you confirm?
 
I'm not a fan of kiss lock pockets inside the bags. They look great outside the bags like the limited edition legacy bags. I was shocked to see the kiss lock pocket inside the Badlands color block satchels. While it's cute no one sees it except the owner of the bag and it adds unnecessary weight to the bag. I would've been fine with a zippered pocket inside. But 1941 bags have this kiss lock pocket inside, right? I read a review of the rogue satchel that said the kiss lock pocket was too small for the satchel.

I'd have to go to my closet to compare but I think the pocket in the satchel is comparable to the one in the medium Rogues. Even if it is smaller, I have not noticed it being "too small" for the satchel or anything.

I would have to see these bags that have sagging due to the pocket; I am having a hard time seeing how it would happen due to the kisspocket alone. My pockets are all quite "set into" the lining/bag and not slouching in or down or anything. Unless they are stuffed full of heavy things, I am just not sure how they would weigh the bag down that much to cause such slouching. The bags are rather heavy on their own, and it is the nature of pebbled leather to get a bit slouchier with use.

I like the kisslock pockets. I don't really use them except for card storage but I still like them. I think they are a interesting (and retro) design element, even if the only person that sees it is me, much like say the suede lined interior compartment of my satchels.

I did not think the 25s had the kisslock pockets? I have seen some rather slouchy used 25s on the resale market though. There was a saddle one on ebay recently that looked super squishy and puddle-y. I assumed it was used quite often before being listed!
 
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I'd have to go to my closet to compare but I think the pocket in the satchel is comparable to the one in the medium Rogues. Even if it is smaller, I have not noticed it being "too small" for the satchel or anything.

I would have to see these bags that have sagging due to the pocket; I am having a hard time seeing how it would happen due to the kisspocket alone. My pockets are all quite "set into" the lining/bag and not slouching in or down or anything. Unless they are stuffed full of heavy things, I am just not sure how they would weigh the bag down that much to cause such slouching. The bags are rather heavy on their own, and it is the nature of pebbled leather to get a bit slouchier with use.

I like the kisslock pockets. I don't really use them except for card storage but I still like them. I think they are a interesting (and retro) design element, even if the only person that sees it is me, much like say the suede lined interior compartment of my satchels.

I did not think the 25s had the kisslock pockets? I have seen some rather slouchy used 25s on the resale market though. There was a saddle one on ebay recently that looked super squishy and puddle-y. I assumed it was used quite often before being listed!
I don't dislike the kiss locks. I just don't like them inside. Hmm, I wonder if the slouching is due to handles being heavy? Are they? I am going to the store tomorrow and an just gonna have to touch, feel and handle the bags. I just just looked Coach.com and the 25 doesn't look like it comes with the kiss lock pocket inside.
 
I don't dislike the kiss locks. I just don't like them inside. Hmm, I wonder if the slouching is due to handles being heavy? Are they? I am going to the store tomorrow and an just gonna have to touch, feel and handle the bags. I just just looked Coach.com and the 25 doesn't look like it comes with the kiss lock pocket inside.
The 25s don't have a kiss lock, but I'm sure it will slouch just like the other sizes do to use and softening of the leather. I think a lot of people assumed the Rogue would stay structured (me included) but they don't. For some reason I don't mind the slouching and I normally prefer a structured bag. I have 3 regular size and one 25. The regular ones have started to slouch but I just received my 25 in May so it hasn't gotten much use. My regular ones would probably be even more slouchy if I didn't change bags frequently.
 
The 25s don't have a kiss lock, but I'm sure it will slouch just like the other sizes do to use and softening of the leather. I think a lot of people assumed the Rogue would stay structured (me included) but they don't. For some reason I don't mind the slouching and I normally prefer a structured bag. I have 3 regular size and one 25. The regular ones have started to slouch but I just received my 25 in May so it hasn't gotten much use. My regular ones would probably be even more slouchy if I didn't change bags frequently.
Well, if even the 25s slouch, then I am just going to have to put a card board frame or something inside it to keep from slouching when I get mine! I'm too indecisive about which Rogue to get. I keep looking at the 25 and then the Satchel on sale. Lol.
 
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I really have enjoyed carrying my Rogue Olive Green 36 with snake handles, BUT there are some things that I just don't like about it.
1. It is really heavy. I don't carry that much to begin with, but this bag is too heavy to carry around doing errands, shopping, etc. It's fine if you are just going out to dinner or going to work though. The shoulder I carry my purse on is definitely sore from wearing this while shopping the other day.
2. It's already slouching. The handles are so heavy that the bag is doomed to sag inward. I know it's not too bad now, but I can see it getting worse.
3. I am a perfectionist when it comes to bags. I take complete care of them and never set them on the ground and am always cautious of how I treat my bag. I already have scuffed corners and I'm not quite sure how it happened.
4. Huge interior, but I find it hard to dig around in there because the sides close in on me and I'm constantly having to push them back out if that makes sense.
5. The little kiss lock pocket inside is adorable, but not quite sure what to use it for, it's kinda tight and small.
I do like this bag. I get compliments on it, the craftsman ship is stunning (suede, kisslock pocket inside beautiful snake handles) and loveeee the color and how it goes well with anything. BUT...I am really glad I didn't pay full price for this bag and got it during the sale instead. I just am not in love. :sad: How do you guys feel about your bags?
Your bag is beautiful! I've always drooled over the Olive one.

I have the black 36 and it's likely my most-carried bag this year. It's heavy, but I don't really notice or mind when it's on my shoulder.

I'm actually WANTING it to slouch! I saw a gorgeous photo of someone carrying a slouchy 36 online somewhere, and that actually pushed me over the edge and made me go ahead with the purchase! A slouchy large bag looks better on my small frame than a structured one. [emoji4]

I do agree that it's sometimes difficult to dig for items, though. I wish it were as quick and easy as it is with tote bags! I keep my Rogue unzipped, but the zipper still always manages to catch on me as I reach in.

The interior kisslock compartment is entirely useless to me right now, but I guess it might be good to store hair ties and bobby pins in? [emoji53]
 
Well, if even the 25s slouch, then I am just going to have to put a card board frame or something inside it to keep from slouching when I get mine! I'm too indecisive about which Rogue to get. I keep looking at the 25 and then the Satchel on sale. Lol.
I still stuff mine when I store them to help retain some structure. That's a tough choice. I chose a brighter color for my 25 (azure with green suede pockets). I definitely can see myself getting another 25 even if I don't need it. The satchels are tempting at the sale price. I picked up the butterscotch but thinking about returning it. Good luck with your decision.
 
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I still stuff mine when I store them to help retain some structure. That's a tough choice. I chose a brighter color for my 25 (azure with green suede pockets). I definitely can see myself getting another 25 even if I don't need it. The satchels are tempting at the sale price. I picked up the butterscotch but thinking about returning it. Good luck with your decision.
Why do you want to return the butterscotch? It's such a pretty color!
 
Your bag is beautiful! I've always drooled over the Olive one.

I have the black 36 and it's likely my most-carried bag this year. It's heavy, but I don't really notice or mind when it's on my shoulder.

I'm actually WANTING it to slouch! I saw a gorgeous photo of someone carrying a slouchy 36 online somewhere, and that actually pushed me over the edge and made me go ahead with the purchase! A slouchy large bag looks better on my small frame than a structured one. [emoji4]

I do agree that it's sometimes difficult to dig for items, though. I wish it were as quick and easy as it is with tote bags! I keep my Rogue unzipped, but the zipper still always manages to catch on me as I reach in.

The interior kisslock compartment is entirely useless to me right now, but I guess it might be good to store hair ties and bobby pins in? [emoji53]

Oh, I like the idea of storing spare hair ties in there!

Yes, I think that is why I prefer larger bags to be slouchier as well - they don't look so overwhelming on me.

I always thought even Coach's photos/the early release photos showed the Rogues as slouchy, so I suppose that has always been the "vision" I had of any of the Rogues. I was actually surprised when my first Rogue arrived still so "structured"!

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Why do you want to return the butterscotch? It's such a pretty color!
It is! But the satchel feels heavier than the regular Rogue and I'm not certain I'll reach for it often. Also, something about the snakeskin is throwing me off. I like it then I wonder how long am I going to like it. I change my mind frequently and if I decide not to keep it after a while I don't want the hassle of selling it. I'm limiting myself to purchasing the satchel and the rogue tote now or just the tote and something from fall release later. I'm in the midst of purging my collection so only items I know I'll keep and use frequently get to stay. This sale came at the wrong time for me. LOL
 
I'd have to go to my closet to compare but I think the pocket in the satchel is comparable to the one in the medium Rogues. Even if it is smaller, I have not noticed it being "too small" for the satchel or anything.

I would have to see these bags that have sagging due to the pocket; I am having a hard time seeing how it would happen due to the kisspocket alone. My pockets are all quite "set into" the lining/bag and not slouching in or down or anything. Unless they are stuffed full of heavy things, I am just not sure how they would weigh the bag down that much to cause such slouching. The bags are rather heavy on their own, and it is the nature of pebbled leather to get a bit slouchier with use.

I like the kisslock pockets. I don't really use them except for card storage but I still like them. I think they are a interesting (and retro) design element, even if the only person that sees it is me, much like say the suede lined interior compartment of my satchels.

I did not think the 25s had the kisslock pockets? I have seen some rather slouchy used 25s on the resale market though. There was a saddle one on ebay recently that looked super squishy and puddle-y. I assumed it was used quite often before being listed!
The kisslock pocket does not make the Rogue slouch, at least I don't guess it does. What it does do is make the interior wall that it is attached to sag inward. The weight of the kiss lock pulls the fabric toward the inside of the bag. I don't carry enough stuff to keep it pushed back where it belongs or to help keep the bag from slouching when in use. I'm guessing the weight of the leather, the handles and the hardware is what causes the slouching.
 
The 25s don't have a kiss lock, but I'm sure it will slouch just like the other sizes do to use and softening of the leather. I think a lot of people assumed the Rogue would stay structured (me included) but they don't. For some reason I don't mind the slouching and I normally prefer a structured bag. I have 3 regular size and one 25. The regular ones have started to slouch but I just received my 25 in May so it hasn't gotten much use. My regular ones would probably be even more slouchy if I didn't change bags frequently.
My daughter likes the slouching, I prefer the structured look. I have been using my 25 pretty regularly and no slouching so far. I use an insert and carry enough stuff to keep it full when in use and stuffed when not in use so I don't give it a chance to slouch. Lol! Plus, it's not such a large piece of leather with really heavy hardware on top of it so that might help too.
Your bag is beautiful! I've always drooled over the Olive one.

I have the black 36 and it's likely my most-carried bag this year. It's heavy, but I don't really notice or mind when it's on my shoulder.

I'm actually WANTING it to slouch! I saw a gorgeous photo of someone carrying a slouchy 36 online somewhere, and that actually pushed me over the edge and made me go ahead with the purchase! A slouchy large bag looks better on my small frame than a structured one. [emoji4]

I do agree that it's sometimes difficult to dig for items, though. I wish it were as quick and easy as it is with tote bags! I keep my Rogue unzipped, but the zipper still always manages to catch on me as I reach in.

The interior kisslock compartment is entirely useless to me right now, but I guess it might be good to store hair ties and bobby pins in? [emoji53]
I think you might be in the majority with wanting it to slouch.
 
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