Controversial opinion on small version of love and juc bracelets ...

[Bag peace]

If you read my posts you will see i have numerous times took responsibility and said it is probably my wording and I'm wording it wrong . I did repeatedly say this when people were misunderstanding me . I never blamed anyone else. I did instantly say it was me. Have you read my previous posts because you would clearly see this ?
I even apologised when I realised.
I've not responded to be argumentative but to clear up what I mean and my intention .
I say people are misunderstanding me because alot of assumptions have been made which are wrong due to a few words I've said.
I'm not blaming people reading and reacting to it .
I'm trying to communicate it better by responding and trying to explain what I mean and feel however I seem to be failing at doing that too .
Some responses came across from readers as quite hostile and alot of assumptions about me as a person were made .
I'm sorry that I'm bad at communicating with people . I'm not meaning to be. When I wrote what I wrote I genuinely thought it would come across correctly . I didn't expect to have to fully in depth explain my reason for the question because people would make unfair assumptions about me .
I only asked a question about opinions on the small collections but it turned into remarks being made that weren't actually relevant to what I said.
I thought we would be able to have discussion about it here without people having such an emotional reaction to it .
I only posted the thread in hopes to help me to decide and to change my opinion possibly. I'm glad people don't seem to feel the way I felt .

Sorry, this is another miscommunication. I wasn't trying to be cruel, I was explaining why you were being misunderstood. You kept phrasing it like people are coming to the wrong conclusion, and I was saying that your choice of wording is what is causing that. People are only following what you said- which is a focus on socio-economic status vs. product quality or aesthetics. You're walking that back now, but to be fair, you did not start at this point and that's why almost everyone interpreted your question as they did.

Anyway, you're right, you're also taking accountability in your own way, I just misunderstood because the wording comes off defensive, but that is a problem with the written word- we can't interpret tone. Please accept my apologies on that front.

Please know that I'm not trying to argue with you and I'm not trying to be unfair. I am being sincere in saying that I don't think luxury shopping should be this stressful and your concerns are detracting from your enjoyment.

I truly think that if you're so stressed about Cartier being recognizable, then it is best to shop for unbranded pieces so that you can fly under the radar and not be worried about muggings.
There are many unique and beautiful pieces with local jewellers that are not instantly seen as a high-value item by potential muggers. It's worth exploring this avenue so that you have peace of mind.

If you do choose to buy the Cartier to add to your existing pieces, just allow yourself to relax with it. Don't walk around worried about whether or not it is spotted. People wear luxury in big cities and small villages, mostly without issue. There are certain areas where you have to be cautious, so cover your bracelets there, but otherwise, live your life and enjoy your stuff.

 

[**Chanel**]

Luxury shopping should be a fun and happy experience.
Now, what if money wouldn't be a subject, which one would you choose? Which one would work best for you?
Best is to try them on at the boutique. Then you can also feel the small JUC, which might not be the best option for you if you prefer a solid piece with some weight to it (small JUC is very lightweight). Take your time to think about it and to decide.
I tried the small and regular JUC with diamonds in 2024, but still haven't made up my mind which one I prefer and I think that's ok.
Actually, I think I would prefer a size between the small and the regular but that one is non existent so far.
I'm not in a hurry and I also have a goal this year that I would like to achieve first.
Do what works for you and what you can afford. Wear what you love.

And speaking about Pandora, I have quite a Pandora collection, they did some very nice real gold pieces with diamonds in the past and I'm lucky to have a few of these pieces. I also have Pandora silver pieces. I'm that person who will mix Pandora with Cartier and VCA if I'm in the mood for it. Especially during Summer, with sunnies, a maxi dress and a big hat for example, just fabulous!
That's what I mean with wear what you love and what works for you 😉.

 

[xblackxstarx]

Sorry, this is another miscommunication. I wasn't trying to be cruel, I was explaining why you were being misunderstood. You kept phrasing it like people are coming to the wrong conclusion, and I was saying that your choice of wording is what is causing that. People are only following what you said- which is a focus on socio-economic status vs. product quality or aesthetics. You're walking that back now, but to be fair, you did not start at this point and that's why almost everyone interpreted your question as they did.

Anyway, you're right, you're also taking accountability in your own way, I just misunderstood because the wording comes off defensive, but that is a problem with the written word- we can't interpret tone. Please accept my apologies on that front.

Please know that I'm not trying to argue with you and I'm not trying to be unfair. I am being sincere in saying that I don't think luxury shopping should be this stressful and your concerns are detracting from your enjoyment.

I truly think that if you're so stressed about Cartier being recognizable, then it is best to shop for unbranded pieces so that you can fly under the radar and not be worried about muggings.
There are many unique and beautiful pieces with local jewellers that are not instantly seen as a high-value item by potential muggers. It's worth exploring this avenue so that you have peace of mind.

If you do choose to buy the Cartier to add to your existing pieces, just allow yourself to relax with it. Don't walk around worried about whether or not it is spotted. People wear luxury in big cities and small villages, mostly without issue. There are certain areas where you have to be cautious, so cover your bracelets there, but otherwise, live your life and enjoy your stuff.

You don't need to apologise at all but thank you I really appreciate everything you've written.
You're right I often forget people can't interpret tone and I am most likely misinterpreting tone too .
I don't feel like you're trying to argue but when I respond it probably does sound like I'm arguing . I mean it like discussing opinions I don't me it to be hostile or argue in that way . I'm genuinely very sorry if it comes across hostile and like an argument and that apologie also extends to anyone else who feels like I was arguing with them in that way too .
I definitely feel that my worry and stress over the bracelets being noticed is ruining my enjoyment of wearing and buying them . The only time I feel truly safe is when I'm shopping for them and at home . I often hide them under my clothes or avoid wearing my rings alot. Which is really silly I purchased the pave diamond love ring last year and I've worn it maybe a handful of times but I love it so much .
I am in general a very anxious and panicky person so I am probably worrying more than is warranted .
I also had a fear of passing out someone taking them which I know sounds ridiculous saying it out loud.
I would hate to replace them as I get sentimental over them so buying another isn't the same to me . I love that mine have my scratched in them ( I don't know if that's sad or normal to feel that way about jewellery )
Thank you for taking the time to write such a kind and detailed response . I can tell you genuinely aren't being hostile ... just honest .

 

[xblackxstarx]

Luxury shopping should be a fun and happy experience.
Now, what if money wouldn't be a subject, which one would you choose? Which one would work best for you?
Best is to try them on at the boutique. Then you can also feel the small JUC, which might not be the best option for you if you prefer a solid piece with some weight to it (small JUC is very lightweight). Take your time to think about it and to decide.
I tried the small and regular JUC with diamonds in 2024, but still haven't made up my mind which one I prefer and I think that's ok.
Actually, I think I would prefer a size between the small and the regular but that one is non existent so far.
I'm not in a hurry and I also have a goal this year that I would like to achieve first.
Do what works for you and what you can afford. Wear what you love.

And speaking about Pandora, I have quite a Pandora collection, they did some very nice real gold pieces with diamonds in the past and I'm lucky to have a few of these pieces. I also have Pandora silver pieces. I'm that person who will mix Pandora with Cartier and VCA if I'm in the mood for it. Especially during Summer, with sunnies, a maxi dress and a big hat for example, just fabulous!
That's what I mean with wear what you love and what works for you 😉.

If money was no object at all I would genuinely own one in both sizes in each of the golds in diamond for the small and plain regular all colours and regular with diamonds all colours. That's how indecisive I am .
I feel like the best option would be to have someone else choose for me .
I think I could be happy with any of them but whatever I choose I will always long for another.
My original wish was to get the plain yellow gold with diamonds as I saw it on kylie jenner and demi lovato and loved it on them. Then I had confusion over whether to wear it alone or stack it as I love it both stacked and alone . But I also love a dainty stack too which the small would suit better. But the small probably wouldn't suit the other stack I like . Uggghhh the decisions. This is the most stressful part. I wish I liked only one gold type or had a definite with or without diamonds preference
The only one I'm sure I don't want is the plain small one but I love it with diamonds .

I love that you mix different jewellery. I used to do that when I did collect pandora .
I loved the gold diamond pandora I wish they never stopped making it .

 

[Bag peace]

I'm genuinely very sorry if it comes across hostile and like an argument and that apologie also extends to anyone else who feels like I was arguing with them in that way too .

You don't need to apologise. Truly, it's so easy for us to express ourselves incorrectly or come off sounding argumentative when we're not.
I've done it so many times on here (not just in this thread), where I'm trying to assist someone but it comes off as criticism or rudeness and I have to explain what I meant in other ways to correct my original post. It happens, it's okay.
Don't feel bad, I don't believe anyone is upset. We all know how easily the wrong choice of words can derail a conversation.

It's hard when you love a design but there's baggage that comes with it. I'm sure many Balenciaga and Wang owners had to figure out a way to wear their pieces when those brands had controversies, and they would have been stressed by the association of doing so.
Crime rates are higher than ever globally, so again, your concern is a valid one. Nobody wants to be targeted, but you must remember that the majority of people don't experience this kind of mugging. Be cautious when you're out and don't draw attention to your more expensive pieces, and you should be fine.

I am in general a very anxious and panicky person so I am probably worrying more than is warranted .
I also had a fear of passing out someone taking them which I know sounds ridiculous saying it out loud.
I would hate to replace them as I get sentimental over them so buying another isn't the same to me .

Anxiety doesn't usually make sense, so don't worry about it sounding ridiculous. It's still a valid anxious thought and it's good that you're aware of it so that you can learn to let go of it.
I hope you can find ways to better manage your anxiety. I know that it robs everyone of their peace and the simple pleasures, so I hope you can be free of the worry in time.

Just as a tangential note- I understand sentimentality, but at the end of the day, try to remember that they're just things. Sometimes we lose our things- not only to theft but to natural disasters, or even to clumsiness. That's something we can't control. What we can control is how we respond if we should happen to lose our things. I would hope in the event of material loss, we would all be grateful that we didn't lose our health, our family, our pets, etc.
In your anxious mind, the thought of losing a valuable item that you picked out and created memories with is horrific. But, in the real world, your focus would be on being grateful that it wasn't something worse and irreplaceable.
I'm not sure if that helps you, but that is one of the ways I deal with my anxiety- looking at the bigger picture.

The only time I feel truly safe is when I'm shopping for them and at home . I often hide them under my clothes or avoid wearing my rings alot. Which is really silly I purchased the pave diamond love ring last year and I've worn it maybe a handful of times but I love it so much .

This is quite sad to hear. Life is so short and there is no point in buying things you love if you can't enjoy them all the time. Nobody is guaranteed tomorrow, so please start working on this anxiety so that you can enjoy every single day. You deserve to live worry-free and use all your best things while you can.
You deserve to enjoy your beautiful things without stress and fear.
Good luck.

 

[**Chanel**]

If money was no object at all I would genuinely own one in both sizes in each of the golds in diamond for the small and plain regular all colours and regular with diamonds all colours. That's how indecisive I am .
I feel like the best option would be to have someone else choose for me .
I think I could be happy with any of them but whatever I choose I will always long for another.
My original wish was to get the plain yellow gold with diamonds as I saw it on kylie jenner and demi lovato and loved it on them. Then I had confusion over whether to wear it alone or stack it as I love it both stacked and alone . But I also love a dainty stack too which the small would suit better. But the small probably wouldn't suit the other stack I like . Uggghhh the decisions. This is the most stressful part. I wish I liked only one gold type or had a definite with or without diamonds preference
The only one I'm sure I don't want is the plain small one but I love it with diamonds .

I love that you mix different jewellery. I used to do that when I did collect pandora .
I loved the gold diamond pandora I wish they never stopped making it .

If you love both sizes and you think you would get good use out of them, how about getting a small with diamonds and a regular one without diamonds, maybe in a different gold color? It would be approx the same price as one regular JUC with diamonds. Then you have both sizes, so you can mix and match.
And you can pick two different gold colors, maybe that would make the choice a little bit easier for you.
Best is to go to the boutique to try them on and see how you feel about them. Make pictures if you have to, look at them at home (or post them here if you like) and decide later. Take all the time you need. It's a lot of money, so it's important that you will be thrilled with your purchase without regrets.
Sometimes I like pictures of a certain item or I like it on someone else, but once I try it on, I don't like it on me or I like something else better.

Yes, I even mix all colors of gold if I'm in the mood. I must say that my rose gold pieces (like Cartier) are very subtle so IMHO they blend nice with YG and I also like to mix them with WG. Or I mix silver with gold.
Agree, the gold and diamond Pandora pieces were really nice. I often get compliments about a Pandora gold ring with diamonds that I wear a lot because of the nice details. It's a pity they no longer make such pieces.

 

[beesknees2]

I also think you should consider getting both a regular plain and a small diamond. You said earlier that you wouldn’t want to wear two JUCs together, but you don’t have to wear everything you own all at once! I sometimes find a single Love or JUC bracelet to be more striking than a stack.

I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, but it seems like you have quite a bit of status anxiety about these purchases. If luxury jewelry is bringing you anxiety instead of pure joy, it’s not worth it.

 

[xblackxstarx]

If you love both sizes and you think you would get good use out of them, how about getting a small with diamonds and a regular one without diamonds, maybe in a different gold color? It would be approx the same price as one regular JUC with diamonds. Then you have both sizes, so you can mix and match.
And you can pick two different gold colors, maybe that would make the choice a little bit easier for you.
Best is to go to the boutique to try them on and see how you feel about them. Make pictures if you have to, look at them at home (or post them here if you like) and decide later. Take all the time you need. It's a lot of money, so it's important that you will be thrilled with your purchase without regrets.
Sometimes I like pictures of a certain item or I like it on someone else, but once I try it on, I don't like it on me or I like something else better.

Yes, I even mix all colors of gold if I'm in the mood. I must say that my rose gold pieces (like Cartier) are very subtle so IMHO they blend nice with YG and I also like to mix them with WG. Or I mix silver with gold.
Agree, the gold and diamond Pandora pieces were really nice. I often get compliments about a Pandora gold ring with diamonds that I wear a lot because of the nice details. It's a pity they no longer make such pieces.

That's probably the best possible idea out of all the options .
Also I've had the same thing happen where I've loved things on others but don't feel they suit me . Often it's because I have chubby arms I wear a size 18 love bracelet so I think I'm looking at others with much slender arms / wrists and when I stack the same I look ( as I've mentioned in other threads) like roast pork with the strings around it 😅
I wish Cartier was closer to me so I could go and try these on and take my time deciding.
When I tried on the regular juc in store it was before the small version even existed and I remember being shocked at how big the regular juc was. I pictured it being smaller in person . At the time I loved it . It was the white gold with diamonds I tried on but I can't remember if even though I was surprised how big it was... was it too big or was I just surprised. I hate that I can't envision it well enough

 

[xblackxstarx]

I also think you should consider getting both a regular plain and a small diamond. You said earlier that you wouldn’t want to wear two JUCs together, but you don’t have to wear everything you own all at once! I sometimes find a single Love or JUC bracelet to be more striking than a stack.

I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, but it seems like you have quite a bit of status anxiety about these purchases. If luxury jewelry is bringing you anxiety instead of pure joy, it’s not worth it.

I don't have status anxiety.... I'm not even familiar with that ?
As I said before we have a low end old car and I wear basic clothing I look poor anyway so I'm not interested in the status part of it like that.
I'm not offended by you saying that but I don't feel that about it

I think the idea of the plain one and the small in diamonds in two different golds is a great idea .
I'm worried I will still long for the regular in diamonds but I guess I can always sell those two to buy the regular with diamonds .
I just hate the idea of leaving jewellery in the box unworn and wasted. I already do that and I'm looking to sell those pieces or exchange them

 

[CartierLVer]

I don't have status anxiety.... I'm not even familiar with that ?
As I said before we have a low end old car and I wear basic clothing I look poor anyway so I'm not interested in the status part of it like that.
I'm not offended by you saying that but I don't feel that about it

I think the idea of the plain one and the small in diamonds in two different golds is a great idea .
I'm worried I will still long for the regular in diamonds but I guess I can always sell those two to buy the regular with diamonds .
I just hate the idea of leaving jewellery in the box unworn and wasted. I already do that and I'm looking to sell those pieces or exchange them

I read your first post and a little here and there, but it seems you have some bias. Not trying to be rude here. So work with me while i try to write my own opinion to you. Jewelry is based on what an individual likes, whether it is a fad, love, or statement piece! No one should buy it to be exclusive! We all should buy it, if it is with in price budget, or simply love the piece. No one should worry if someone else has the same piece of jewelry or if it is real/fake, or if it an entry level piece cuz it’s cheap. In the end it is the individuals own opinion and decision to buy what ever suits their needs! If you love it, buy it! Most people here want everyone else’s opinion in what to buy, but i say, buy it if you love it! Wear it in good health and be proud of what you are wearing! In the end, don’t have regrets, cuz we are all on that same boat to meeting our own death! Life is too short to be being bias, arguing, or proving a point. I think you have proven your point. In the end it is really your choice if you want the piece of jewelry! I say go big or go home! Buy the regular JUC with diamonds, i wish i did! But i didn’t have the funds, so i bought the entry level WG with the old closure system! But i love that piece and i wear it proudly! It is probably my only loud statement piece and my last, as i am getting old lol. YOLO. Hope i made some sense lol

 

[xblackxstarx]

I read your first post and a little here and there, but it seems you have some bias. Not trying to be rude here. So work with me while i try to write my own opinion to you. Jewelry is based on what an individual likes, whether it is a fad, love, or statement piece! No one should buy it to be exclusive! We all should buy it, if it is with in price budget, or simply love the piece. No one should worry if someone else has the same piece of jewelry or if it is real/fake, or if it an entry level piece cuz it’s cheap. In the end it is the individuals own opinion and decision to buy what ever suits their needs! If you love it, buy it! Most people here want everyone else’s opinion in what to buy, but i say, buy it if you love it! Wear it in good health and be proud of what you are wearing! In the end, don’t have regrets, cuz we are all on that same boat to meeting our own death! Life is too short to be being bias, arguing, or proving a point. I think you have proven your point. In the end it is really your choice if you want the piece of jewelry! I say go big or go home! Buy the regular JUC with diamonds, i wish i did! But i didn’t have the funds, so i bought the entry level WG with the old closure system! But i love that piece and i wear it proudly! It is probably my only loud statement piece and my last, as i am getting old lol. YOLO. Hope i made some sense lol

What bias do you think I have? I'm not aware of having it if I do ? ( I'm genuinely asking because I'm not sure what you mean )
I wasn't trying to prove any point and I don't know what point you mean that I proved ?

I'm really so confused .
I don't think what I said / felt was right or the only way to feel if that's what you mean.

I agree with life is short ... too short infact. That's why I want to make the right decision now as I don't have forever to enjoy them or to change my mind .
I'm only 36 but I have health issues.

 

[Swanky]

I think starting a thread with the title "Controversial" can predict how the discussion could go! lol

 

[xblackxstarx]

I think starting a thread with the title "Controversial" can predict how the discussion could go! lol

Thinking about it that was a dumb thing for me to write . I just meant I have an opinion or thought that I don't know if others will agree with.
That was not the best way to open this discussion now that I think back on it.
Sorry for that I will think more before writing something as a thread title.

 

[Loriad]

While I agree with giving some thought to making a jewelry purchase, I feel like the decision should be a little easier than this. To me, if a decision causes so much uncertainty, negative thoughts or angst, it's a definite no. I make purchases that make my heart sing and while I may hesitate and give it a little thought, this level of uncertainty would make me pass and move on to something else.

 

[mrceral]

I think starting a thread with the title "Controversial" can predict how the discussion could go! lol

You took the reply right out of my hands lol - starts thread with Controversial then post after post about being misunderstood