Controversial opinion on small version of love and juc bracelets ...

[xblackxstarx]

To my mind, they aren’t the same thing and I don’t think it is a misunderstanding. You keep raising examples or stories that re-enforce that you believe affordable = tacky, and you want the expensive item that people cannot afford, as opposed to, for example, a reasonably price unbranded but unique bespoke piece from a local jeweller.

You’ve also mentioned that you have seen the smaller version in “low end” places and grocery stores. Not that you have seen a lot of them. So, it’s a focus on the correlation between low end and the bracelet as opposed to popularity.

Which is your right and I don’t want to berate you, just explain, so I’ll just leave it there and say, given this, I think these aren’t the bracelets for you. You won’t feel joy when you wear them.

For me it's because anything popular is low end .
There's never everyone wearing high end pieces .
Unless you go to a specifically wealthy area like I gave examples harrods London area
I can tell you definitely don't understand what I'm saying.
However yes affordable jewellery is often tacky as it happens but also there are pieces by cartier I find tacky too but for different reasons
I know the problem is probably me and my wording . I've had this problem before when trying to explain myself online and upset people . So I'm sorry that I'm not being completely clear.

 

[A1aGypsy]

For me it's because anything popular is low end .
There's never everyone wearing high end pieces .
Unless you go to a specifically wealthy area like I gave examples harrods London area
I can tell you definitely don't understand what I'm saying.
However yes affordable jewellery is often tacky as it happens but also there are pieces by cartier I find tacky too but for different reasons
I know the problem is probably me and my wording . I've had this problem before when trying to explain myself online and upset people . So I'm sorry that I'm not being completely clear.

Like I said, you are entitled to your opinion and don’t have to be sorry for it. No one is upset.

 

[chanellover333]

The classic pieces are definitely common in high income areas, but it is up to you how much this bothers you. For most women in the world, a 3-5k cartier piece would be a dream. I still like my love and juc, but I understand why someone doesn't want a popular jewelry piece. None of the pieces are going to be solid value/bang for your buck in terms of carat weight etc so I wouldn't fret on the weight of piece as much. It just depends on what you want to add to your collection. I have very dainty arms and felt the big JUC didn't look proportional, but if you are curvy maybe try the big size and see if you like that? And tbh, with all the crime going on in the world right now I kind of like having a 'less expensive' jewelry piece because it is less to worry about.

eta I don't think it's even about price bc I see more people with the love bracelets w pave diamonds than I have the plain gold panthere bracelet. I think it is more about what is viewed as a 'classic', tbh.

 

[880]

Wear what you love; that you can afford. Where I live, I see more VCA than Cartier, but both are worn. Especially the Alhambra and Love collections which are somewhat entry level for those brands. None of that would stop me from wearing them if I liked them for myself. But, I happen to prefer other things

 

[limom]

 

[Yodabest]

I’ve found this thread thoroughly fascinating (though put off by the judgment) and felt inspired when figuring out what to stack before running out the door.

Proof that various budgets can play harmoniously together.

 

[xblackxstarx]

Like I said, you are entitled to your opinion and don’t have to be sorry for it. No one is upset.

Thank you 😊 I hope no one is upset

 

[xblackxstarx]

I’ve found this thread thoroughly fascinating (though put off by the judgment) and felt inspired when figuring out what to stack before running out the door.

Proof that various budgets can play harmoniously together.

This stack is absolutely stunning 😍
Thank you ever so much for sharing!

 

[xblackxstarx]

The classic pieces are definitely common in high income areas, but it is up to you how much this bothers you. For most women in the world, a 3-5k cartier piece would be a dream. I still like my love and juc, but I understand why someone doesn't want a popular jewelry piece. None of the pieces are going to be solid value/bang for your buck in terms of carat weight etc so I wouldn't fret on the weight of piece as much. It just depends on what you want to add to your collection. I have very dainty arms and felt the big JUC didn't look proportional, but if you are curvy maybe try the big size and see if you like that? And tbh, with all the crime going on in the world right now I kind of like having a 'less expensive' jewelry piece because it is less to worry about.

eta I don't think it's even about price bc I see more people with the love bracelets w pave diamonds than I have the plain gold panthere bracelet. I think it is more about what is viewed as a 'classic', tbh.

I've again not explained properly I didn't mean I was worried about the weight of it for value purposes ... I'm worried about it being light because it means it's hollow and therefore I thought it meant it will break or get squished easily as I've squashed hollow gold pieces before with my fingers . I was only worried about squashing it if I leant on my wrist for example. I don't care about the value of the gold or weight of it. I just prefer it to be solid as in sturdy and long lasting . Sorry for the confusion

Wear what you love; that you can afford. Where I live, I see more VCA than Cartier, but both are worn. Especially the Alhambra and Love collections which are somewhat entry level for those brands. None of that would stop me from wearing them if I liked them for myself. But, I happen to prefer other things

I see alot of fake van cleef around not the authentic pieces .
I've only seen a juc and love once each on operate occasions.
I don't know if it's less common here in the UK maybe

 

[chanellover333]

I've again not explained properly I didn't mean I was worried about the weight of it for value purposes ... I'm worried about it being light because it means it's hollow and therefore I thought it meant it will break or get squished easily as I've squashed hollow gold pieces before with my fingers . I was only worried about squashing it if I leant on my wrist for example. I don't care about the value of the gold or weight of it. I just prefer it to be solid as in sturdy and long lasting . Sorry for the confusion

I see alot of fake van cleef around not the authentic pieces .
I've only seen a juc and love once each on operate occasions.
I don't know if it's less common here in the UK maybe

Ah, I see what you mean. I wouldn’t worry about that - they are pretty durable in general but I have also seen those stories of the bracelets snapping! The good news is Cartier repairs so worst case they would still make it right if something happened to it

 

[xblackxstarx]

Ah, I see what you mean. I wouldn’t worry about that - they are pretty durable in general but I have also seen those stories of the bracelets snapping! The good news is Cartier repairs so worst case they would still make it right if something happened to it

Oh they would repair it ? That's amazing. That actually puts my mind at ease . I'm careful with my jewellery as much as you can be but I was worried it was easy to break , bend or squish.
It seems more so that it isn't
That's fantastic thank you 😊

 

[mocktail]

For me it's because anything popular is low end .
There's never everyone wearing high end pieces .
Unless you go to a specifically wealthy area like I gave examples harrods London area
I can tell you definitely don't understand what I'm saying.
However yes affordable jewellery is often tacky as it happens but also there are pieces by cartier I find tacky too but for different reasons
I know the problem is probably me and my wording . I've had this problem before when trying to explain myself online and upset people . So I'm sorry that I'm not being completely clear.

I think you’ve been pretty clear re: your anxiety about being associated with people ‘in a lower tier’ or having things that are popular (and therefore ‘low end’ in your opinion).

And that isn’t really the community’s vibe. Overall this community is pretty supportive. People mostly celebrate each other and don’t feel that someone else’s belongings, success, or happiness threatens their own.

So it’s not people misunderstanding you. It’s people having a different viewpoint.

I think you’ll be a lot happier if you can focus on what you actually love, and ignore what anyone else is or isn’t wearing.

 

[xblackxstarx]

I think you’ve been pretty clear re: your anxiety about being associated with people ‘in a lower tier’ or having things that are popular (and therefore ‘low end’ in your opinion).

And that isn’t really the community’s vibe. Overall this community is pretty supportive. People mostly celebrate each other and don’t feel that someone else’s belongings, success, or happiness threatens their own.

So it’s not people misunderstanding you. It’s people having a different viewpoint.

I think you’ll be a lot happier if you can focus on what you actually love, and ignore what anyone else is or isn’t wearing.

That's why i know I'm being misunderstood though. I'm not worried about being associated with any specific tier of people.
I already am associated with being the lowest tier of people as I dress really low end in my daily life and we drive a very old car. Nobody thinks I can afford nice jewellery and I like it that way it means I'm less likely to get mugged if people assume I have nothing of value. So it's definitely not me having anxiety about being associated with a low tier of people.
People are definitely 100% misunderstanding what I'm saying as this is certainly not the case or I would upgrade the things people notice more like the car nobody cares or notices my jewellery. Hence why I also passed on a rose gold rolex which had always been my dream watch I decided I didn't feel confident wearing it and risking how well known it is I don't want to be mugged and I've known of people to be mugged for alot less .
One time someone did point out my bracelets and say they were cartier and I told them that they were fake .
It's not about what other people IRL associate me with.
It's about how I personally felt about the release of the small versions of the bracelets when they first came out .

Basic summary .... i don't want people to know the value of my jewellery. I don't want people to recognise it too much. If it's common and more accessible people will know of it and recognise it more.
I love that nobody usually notices my jewellery in real life and probably assume it's fake .
It only matters that I know it's real .

 

[Bag peace]

That's why i know I'm being misunderstood though.

People are definitely 100% misunderstanding what I'm saying

Basic summary .... i don't want people to know the value of my jewellery. I don't want people to recognise it too much. If it's common and more accessible people will know of it and recognise it more.
I love that nobody usually notices my jewellery in real life and probably assume it's fake .
It only matters that I know it's real .

That's much clearer. I just wish you would stop saying people are misunderstanding you. We are all quoting your own words and explaining that it comes off as classist- even if that's not your intention, the language you are repeatedly using suggests this.
Your explanation now is much more clear, but the misunderstanding- like all communication- comes down to both you and the readers. You have to take some responsibility for your own words, too.

But please know, this is not as big of a deal as it may sound. Frankly, miscommunication happens all the time, and especially in written form. It's great that you've clarified, thank you for doing so!

As to your actual concern re muggings and recognizable jewellery, the truth is that Cartier is always recognizable. Small or regular, real or fake, the design is known. Especially since Cartier is prominently displayed on social media these days.
No mugger is going to assume a fake piece if they're mugging you. They'll take it all and assess the value after the fact. They're not going to pass up taking your jewellery because it may not be real.
If you want to feel safe with your jewellery, either go for unbranded pieces, or make sure you cover up your bracelets when in high-risk areas.

Truly, you're overthinking this to an unnecessary degree. If you're this concerned, I again urge you to consider unbranded pieces that will give you peace of mind.

 

[xblackxstarx]

That's much clearer. I just wish you would stop saying people are misunderstanding you. We are all quoting your own words and explaining that it comes off as classist- even if that's not your intention, the language you are repeatedly using suggests this.
Your explanation now is much more clear, but the misunderstanding- like all communication- comes down to both you and the readers. You have to take some responsibility for your own words, too.

But please know, this is not as big of a deal as it may sound. Frankly, miscommunication happens all the time, and especially in written form. It's great that you've clarified, thank you for doing so!

As to your actual concern re muggings and recognizable jewellery, the truth is that Cartier is always recognizable. Small or regular, real or fake, the design is known. Especially since Cartier is prominently displayed on social media these days.
No mugger is going to assume a fake piece if they're mugging you. They'll take it all and assess the value after the fact. They're not going to pass up taking your jewellery because it may not be real.
If you want to feel safe with your jewellery, either go for unbranded pieces, or make sure you cover up your bracelets when in high-risk areas.

Truly, you're overthinking this to an unnecessary degree. If you're this concerned, I again urge you to consider unbranded pieces that will give you peace of mind.

If you read my posts you will see i have numerous times took responsibility and said it is probably my wording and I'm wording it wrong . I did repeatedly say this when people were misunderstanding me . I never blamed anyone else. I did instantly say it was me. Have you read my previous posts because you would clearly see this ?
I even apologised when I realised.
I've not responded to be argumentative but to clear up what I mean and my intention .
I say people are misunderstanding me because alot of assumptions have been made which are wrong due to a few words I've said.
I'm not blaming people reading and reacting to it .
I'm trying to communicate it better by responding and trying to explain what I mean and feel however I seem to be failing at doing that too .
Some responses came across from readers as quite hostile and alot of assumptions about me as a person were made .
I'm sorry that I'm bad at communicating with people . I'm not meaning to be. When I wrote what I wrote I genuinely thought it would come across correctly . I didn't expect to have to fully in depth explain my reason for the question because people would make unfair assumptions about me .
I only asked a question about opinions on the small collections but it turned into remarks being made that weren't actually relevant to what I said.
I thought we would be able to have discussion about it here without people having such an emotional reaction to it .
I only posted the thread in hopes to help me to decide and to change my opinion possibly. I'm glad people don't seem to feel the way I felt .