Controversial opinion on small version of love and juc bracelets ...

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I bought the small JUC bracelet in December. The large was too clunky on my wrist. It wasn't a budget issue.
I adore the regular JUC but it is DEFINITELY a statement. The small is more delicate and stacks better IMO. Having the different sizes is nice for different body frames and aesthetic preferences. The items are all pricy, I really think it’s more about comfort and aesthetic preferences.
 
I adore the regular JUC but it is DEFINITELY a statement. The small is more delicate and stacks better IMO. Having the different sizes is nice for different body frames and aesthetic preferences. The items are all pricy, I really think it’s more about comfort and aesthetic preferences.
This is a huge issue for me as I'm a bit chubby and I think alot of women here are showing their stacks on dainty arms. So they look beautiful on them. With my chubby arms I'm afraid I'll just look like roast pork with the strings tied around it 😅
 
This is a huge issue for me as I'm a bit chubby and I think alot of women here are showing their stacks on dainty arms. So they look beautiful on them. With my chubby arms I'm afraid I'll just look like roast pork with the strings tied around it 😅
Yes, I’m tall and lift weights! And I’m well into middle age now. There’s nothing delicate about me so I tend to go for bold jewelry. But I’m glad there are options for everyone!
 
If you can afford jewelry, it should be fun and bring you joy.

It sounds like you’re putting a lot of social meaning on what you wear vs. what other people wear, and that’s making your jewelry decisions much more stressful than they should be. Seems like something bigger than just a jewelry dilemma to me, so maybe something to explore within yourself.
 
Well, this thread was like an explosion - started irritated and finished incensed.

And, OP, I'm sorry, but a reality check here - if you don't think $3,000 is a lot of money, you've lost perspective. It may not be a lot to YOU, and it isn't an amount that would make a difference in my own life, but that's not the point. Half of Americans don't have $400 for an emergency expense. When I wear my $40,000 pavé bracelets out the door, I don't look down on people wearing the entry level ones, but I am aware that it is a massive privilege to be able to have these beautiful things and I try to comport myself with internal and external gratitude.

I could drive an S class Mercedes. I do drive an E class. I once had a C class. Do I feel like my E class is diminished by someone driving the A class? I do not. Someone else likes the brand and has purchased something (hopefully within their means) that they like. I smile for them that they have something that is special to them.

The myriad defensive replies are ridiculous. Go use that time to help in a soup kitchen or something.
 
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When I see someone with a bracelet stack I'm admiring their choices and subtly trying to figure out what pieces they own, and not adding up the total amount of money they spent on them. It's always a joy seeing jewelry in the wild and seeing how different women have styled them according to their personal taste. Some people prefer thinner bracelets, I don't see what the problem with that is.
 
Well, this thread was like an explosion - started irritated and finished incensed.

And, OP, I'm sorry, but a reality check here - if you don't think $3,000 is a lot of money, you've lost perspective. It may not be a lot to YOU, and it isn't an amount that would make a difference in my own life, but that's not the point. Half of Americans don't have $400 for an emergency expense. When I wear my $40,000 pavé bracelets out the door, I don't look down on people wearing the entry level ones, but I am aware that it is a massive privilege to be able to have these beautiful things and I try to comport myself with internal and external gratitude.

I could drive an S class Mercedes. I do drive an E class. I once had a C class. Do I feel like my E class is diminished by someone driving the A class? I do not. Someone else likes the brand and has purchased something (hopefully within their means) that they like. I smile for them that they have something that is special to them.

The myriad defensive replies are ridiculous. Go use that time to help in a soup kitchen or something.
Uhm… lol.

So, OP, I see a difference between popularity and financially accessible. I think there is a huge difference between saying “I would prefer to wear accessories that are unique” vs. “I would prefer to wear accessories that most people cannot afford”.
 
If you can afford jewelry, it should be fun and bring you joy.

It sounds like you’re putting a lot of social meaning on what you wear vs. what other people wear, and that’s making your jewelry decisions much more stressful than they should be. Seems like something bigger than just a jewelry dilemma to me, so maybe something to explore within yourself.
There's not any social meaning to this jewelry within my social circle at all so it isn't that.
I thought most people would feel the same about it to be honest and I'm genuinely surprised to not see people feeling the same way .
All I can think is I've not worded it correctly as I've seen numerous people making the same complaint about other jewellery brands doing this .
Well, this thread was like an explosion - started irritated and finished incensed.

And, OP, I'm sorry, but a reality check here - if you don't think $3,000 is a lot of money, you've lost perspective. It may not be a lot to YOU, and it isn't an amount that would make a difference in my own life, but that's not the point. Half of Americans don't have $400 for an emergency expense. When I wear my $40,000 pavé bracelets out the door, I don't look down on people wearing the entry level ones, but I am aware that it is a massive privilege to be able to have these beautiful things and I try to comport myself with internal and external gratitude.

I could drive an S class Mercedes. I do drive an E class. I once had a C class. Do I feel like my E class is diminished by someone driving the A class? I do not. Someone else likes the brand and has purchased something (hopefully within their means) that they like. I smile for them that they have something that is special to them.

The myriad defensive replies are ridiculous. Go use that time to help in a soup kitchen or something.
Sorry I didn't mean that £3000 isn't alot of money. It is. I meant in comparison to over £10000 it isn't alot of money . In comparison. I definitely didn't mean to dismiss £3000 as being an insignificant amount .
Again I think it's my wording as I definitely did not mean that . £3000 is alot of money to me but it isn't alot of money for a Cartier piece to me . I was trying to explain how a cheaper piece is far more accessible than a much more expensive piece.
I meant it was something I personally felt about the collection being cheapened by making a cheaper version and making it far more accessible.
I wear cheap clothes I don't care for clothes at all and I don't care what others think ... this is why I know others are misunderstanding me . I often wear beat up trainers too because again I don't care much for how my clothes look and I don't want to draw attention by dressing up when I'm out and about . I often hide my jewellery under a hoodie most of the year 😅
When I see someone with a bracelet stack I'm admiring their choices and subtly trying to figure out what pieces they own, and not adding up the total amount of money they spent on them. It's always a joy seeing jewelry in the wild and seeing how different women have styled them according to their personal taste. Some people prefer thinner bracelets, I don't see what the problem with that is.
I get super excited seeing others jewellery out in the wild too ! I would love to meet others IRL with the same passion for jewellery and similar taste
I definitely do not add up the value of people's jewellery
It's ok op, lots of people got turned off van Cleef because of how ubiquitous they've become.
If you enjoy your bracelets still then try to enjoy them, if not then move on to another piece. Life's too short to stress over jewelry
That's all I meant. I don't personally own much van cleef I have only the sweet necklace and bracelet and love them ..nothing will put me off of those as they are special to me
Uhm… lol.

So, OP, I see a difference between popularity and financially accessible. I think there is a huge difference between saying “I would prefer to wear accessories that are unique” vs. “I would prefer to wear accessories that most people cannot afford”.
That's what I meant but them being less affordable in effect happens to make them less popular ( to be seen worn ) and to me it means the same thing as it results in the same thing . That's why I'm trying to explain to everyone they are misunderstanding what I'm trying to say.
It's not about having the most expensive because it's expensive it's about it being less attainable therefore less common to see worn by others out and about
An example I gave before was pandora jewellery. It's an extreme example but they massively cheapened their brand ( it was already cheap compared to cartier ) but they made it so common and accessible that everyone is wearing it and now it's just tacky to me . It was always tacky but now it's unbearable tacky. I used to enjoy collecting the little charms for fun and nobody else had pandora ( when I was a teenager ) now everyone is wearing them everywhere ( of a certain age group )
For me that ruins anything .
I have the same response to when everyone suddenly starts liking say a tv series I like just because they remake it etc and suddenly everyone is a fan and everyone wears the t shirts etc . It puts me off.
I've always felt like that about everything. It's not just a cartier thing .
 
Well, this thread was like an explosion - started irritated and finished incensed.

And, OP, I'm sorry, but a reality check here - if you don't think $3,000 is a lot of money, you've lost perspective. It may not be a lot to YOU, and it isn't an amount that would make a difference in my own life, but that's not the point. Half of Americans don't have $400 for an emergency expense. When I wear my $40,000 pavé bracelets out the door, I don't look down on people wearing the entry level ones, but I am aware that it is a massive privilege to be able to have these beautiful things and I try to comport myself with internal and external gratitude.

I could drive an S class Mercedes. I do drive an E class. I once had a C class. Do I feel like my E class is diminished by someone driving the A class? I do not. Someone else likes the brand and has purchased something (hopefully within their means) that they like. I smile for them that they have something that is special to them.

The myriad defensive replies are ridiculous. Go use that time to help in a soup kitchen or something.

What was the purpose of saying go help in a soup kitchen?
I've been homeless myself and alone with no support and no family . I've been that person who needed the soup kitchen.
You have completely wrongly misjudged me.
 
That's what I meant but them being less affordable in effect happens to make them less popular ( to be seen worn ) and to me it means the same thing as it results in the same thing . That's why I'm trying to explain to everyone they are misunderstanding what I'm trying to say.
It's not about having the most expensive because it's expensive it's about it being less attainable therefore less common to see worn by others out and about
An example I gave before was pandora jewellery. It's an extreme example but they massively cheapened their brand ( it was already cheap compared to cartier ) but they made it so common and accessible that everyone is wearing it and now it's just tacky to me . It was always tacky but now it's unbearable tacky. I used to enjoy collecting the little charms for fun and nobody else had pandora ( when I was a teenager ) now everyone is wearing them everywhere ( of a certain age group )
For me that ruins anything .
I have the same response to when everyone suddenly starts liking say a tv series I like just because they remake it etc and suddenly everyone is a fan and everyone wears the t shirts etc . It puts me off.
I've always felt like that about everything. It's not just a cartier thing .

To my mind, they aren’t the same thing and I don’t think it is a misunderstanding. You keep raising examples or stories that re-enforce that you believe affordable = tacky, and you want the expensive item that people cannot afford, as opposed to, for example, a reasonably price unbranded but unique bespoke piece from a local jeweller.

You’ve also mentioned that you have seen the smaller version in “low end” places and grocery stores. Not that you have seen a lot of them. So, it’s a focus on the correlation between low end and the bracelet as opposed to popularity.

Which is your right and I don’t want to berate you, just explain, so I’ll just leave it there and say, given this, I think these aren’t the bracelets for you. You won’t feel joy when you wear them.
 
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