Coach's Changing Terminology for FP Delete Bags
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In the past they sometimes accepted returns without a receipt. If they didn't retag the item and mark it with the bullseye, someone might buy something at the outlet for a discount and return it to the boutique for full value.
I am confused clicked on Australia rather than UK site as there is a sale on there and wanted a nosy and they have Harley as well as nomads I thought Harley wasn't a FP retail bag????
I just went on the site because I was thinking you might be confusing it with the Chelsea but I did see the Harley. It looked out of place next to the Edie and Nomads. Not sure what's going on. It's definitely an outlet bag in the U.S.
I know so confusing to a newbie like me and as I'm in the UK and no where near London I can't see and feel the bags to know which leather is which some online retailers don't even say if it's leather let alone what type I had no idea coach did non leather bags!!!! There is an outlet 3 hours away from me in the north of England but they never have FP bags only MFF and they told me Harley is MFF and they will never have nomads
This very issue his came up in another group. The recent sale of FOS colorblock dinkies have creeds with an F stamped on them. I can't believe coach would take the time to place new creeds on all of these bags- so are these dinkies in fact MFF?
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I think that they are MFF Dinkies. In the past Coach has been known to make MFF versions of popular boutique bags that are similar or almost identical to the retail bags. Sometimes it is fairly obvious that it is a different bag (different name and number, different size, different surface texture, different strap) but sometimes it is hard to tell - in those cases the "F" at the start of the style number (after the hyphen) is the best indicator IMO.
The dustbag (or absence of a dustbag) is another clue - but not absolute - because I have found genuine FP delete bags at the outlet that were missing a dustbag.
But recently Coach made an MFF version of the Nomad bags that were constructed very much like the boutique version - as far as I could tell anyway - but they didn't come with dustbags. They were called "Nomad" but the style number began with an "F" so they were MFF bags.
But I am not an expert, so I will defer to others like @whateve, @Hyacinth, and @BeenBurned for their opinions.
If you like the bag and you got it at a good price, then it doesn't really matter.
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It did not come with a dustbag. Interesting all of the 1941 labeling is intact including the hangtag and the 1941 stamping. I am planning on keeping the bag- beautiful quality!
Did I get fooled again? I had to return a Nomad because it was an MFF and I thought it was a delete - so now I have to check my Dinky - I did notice it says 1941 on it so maybe it is a boutique bag. Coach is getting very tricky lately. No dustbag but many times a boutique bag is missing its dustbag at my outlet
Does this mean my dinky - which was in the “deletes” section of the outlet is a MFF?
I was just about to ask about these Dinkies. I was in my local outlet yesterday, and there was a bunch of them on display. You could have knocked me over with a feather when I saw that F in the style number. Despite my disbelief, I think it is safe to say that, based on past knowledge, Coach is now making an MFF version of the 1941 Dinky. This certainly isn't the first time Coach has produced MFF version of popular retail styles.
If it has an F in front of the style number, it was a made for factory bag. This irks me that they are remaking 1941 bags for outlet....
Yes! The more I think about it, the more aggravated I get. Because they claim they want to compete in the upper levels with the big kids, but putting MFF 1941 lines into the outlets completely diminishes the product. So help me god, they start making MFF Rogues, I will probably move on to a different company. And this is coming from someone who has been loyal to the brand for two decades!
I'm going to go against everyone's guesses and say these are not MFF.
1) The code indicates they were mfg. in May so why are they just coming out now and at 60% off? I know the outlet rarely sells at "suggested retail" but they don't usually put an item out at first at 60% off.
2) The 1941 red sold out quickly and wasn't restocked. If it were a new MFF bag there wouldn't have been such a small quantity.
3) I haven't felt these, but it looks like the same glorious glovetanned leather (excluding the pebble CB which looks great too) inside and out.
4) Yes, there is a F in the serial number so that does identify that as an outlet bag, but maybe that's how they're doing it now - re-sewing a MFF Creed patch into a delete. It's not a lot of work. The outlets have been very inconsistent with adding the bullseye stamp to the storypatch and I've not seen any of my FOS deletes with the bullseye. I haven't even seen my latest outlet deletes with a bullseye. Maybe
corporate decided to go this route to make certain these deletes aren't ever able to be mistaken as coming from FP?
5) Curious if they also added a dot to the "made in" fabric tag?
I could be completely wrong on all of the above, but I will say (and have said before) that as long as the quality is there, who cares if it's MFF? Glovetanned leather = glovetanned leather. And we all know not to pay full price for anything at this point anyway (unless we reeeallly can't live without it) because inevitably items are marked down...PCE, SAS, F&F, ---> outlet.
Forgot to add that the style number is exactly the same as the FP one. If MFF the style number would not be the same would it?
