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Did you use black rocks on your bag after you dunked it?

I'll try airing it out -- which will probably get rid of the smell. It's just a faint musty smell.

Thanks
I've used Blackrocks on Sonomas. You just have to make sure to not put it on thick and to wipe it off carefully. You don't want any to get stuck in the crevasses,
 
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I did not find the exact sketch for my bag, but I found a sketch for something very similar - maybe it was one of the steps in development. My bag has a longer flap and two turnlock holes on each side of the strap instead of three. This is the coin purse on the back.

I am here to report back on this bag. The charcoal did not help, so I dunked the bag. The short story: never again.

Now, the long story. Strangely enough, after all was done I came across Debi Nemetz's post on how she restored a Cashin for Meyers bag, controlling humidity in her restoration room, etc, etc. No idea why it did not come up on Google when I originally searched, if I read it, I don't think I would have the chutzpah to attempt this rehab. But I didn't read it in time. So, the good: the bag doesn't stink anymore, and I did not kill it. The not so good: the bag changed its color (it lost that yellow tone and is now more British tan than mustard) and the creases are still there (I think in the back the problem is structural, the leather is too soft to support the frame for the kisslock pocket). The bad: the leather in few spots looks suspicious. I did not examine the bag closely before, maybe it was there all along, or maybe I damaged it. The bag has been dry for about a week, no cracks yet, so hopefully it's OK. Here is the result
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A note for those who will rehab Cashin for Meyers bags - not only it took forever to dry (Debi N. mentions this too), but it also took much longer than Coach bags to absorb the conditioner.
 
I am here to report back on this bag. The charcoal did not help, so I dunked the bag. The short story: never again.

Now, the long story. Strangely enough, after all was done I came across Debi Nemetz's post on how she restored a Cashin for Meyers bag, controlling humidity in her restoration room, etc, etc. No idea why it did not come up on Google when I originally searched, if I read it, I don't think I would have the chutzpah to attempt this rehab. But I didn't read it in time. So, the good: the bag doesn't stink anymore, and I did not kill it. The not so good: the bag changed its color (it lost that yellow tone and is now more British tan than mustard) and the creases are still there (I think in the back the problem is structural, the leather is too soft to support the frame for the kisslock pocket). The bad: the leather in few spots looks suspicious. I did not examine the bag closely before, maybe it was there all along, or maybe I damaged it. The bag has been dry for about a week, no cracks yet, so hopefully it's OK. Here is the result
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A note for those who will rehab Cashin for Meyers bags - not only it took forever to dry (Debi N. mentions this too), but it also took much longer than Coach bags to absorb the conditioner.
I think all in all, it is improved, although I did like that yellow color.
 
I think all in all, it is improved, although I did like that yellow color.
Yes, the color change was a bummer. I mostly wear blues and greys, so a mustard bag was really handy. I am still surprised at how it could happen so uniformly, it's almost as if the original color reacted with water/soap/conditioner. There is no trace of the yellow left.

I forgot to mention, before I dunked the bag, it was slightly sticky to the touch, just a tiny bit so. Could it be that there was some product applied that gave it that yellow tone, and it washed off?
 
Yes, the color change was a bummer. I mostly wear blues and greys, so a mustard bag was really handy. I am still surprised at how it could happen so uniformly, it's almost as if the original color reacted with water/soap/conditioner. There is no trace of the yellow left.

I forgot to mention, before I dunked the bag, it was slightly sticky to the touch, just a tiny bit so. Could it be that there was some product applied that gave it that yellow tone, and it washed off?
I don't know if there was something that made it yellow. Once I bought the most beautiful orange bag, but when I dunked it, it turned red. I assumed the orange was due to the leather being dry. That might be the case for you too.
 
Oh, I did find sort of pre-rehab pics. After a clean and condition with Loving My Bags but before the dunk.

Hi everyone,

Bought a very beat-up manor bag on eBay a few months ago. I wish I had photos of the original listing, but I didn't think to document the 'before' until i had started cleaning her up. I knew that there was scuffing Blackrocks alone wouldn't fix. Some of the piping was so worn, it looked very close to splitting. What to do? I know that acrylic paint thinned out would protect and camouflage the worst scuffing. I have used it before, with decent results, but I don't love the idea of a plastic coating on my bag if i can help it. This bag was going to need a lot of protection. So, I ordered Saphir Renovating Cream which claims to remain 'breathable' and can be thinned down. Saphir should be mixed with another Saphir moisturizer for this purpose, but I was being cheap so I used the Chamberlains leather milk I had on hand. (It was okay, but a bit chalky. I would buy a Saphir moisturizer next time.) I added a teeny drop to a glob of moisturizer and applied to the most damaged areas. I did this several times, with only a slight improvement. Then, I did a regular coat if Blackrocks, and one coat of Blackrocks with a scant amount of Saphir to just the damaged areas. The scuffing is much improved, but the piping in particular is going to need several more layers and the bag us now too saturated to accept more product. I think I will have to go at this bag once a month for awhile.

If you follow the Saphir directions, you can get great coverage without all this trouble, but I was being conservative and trying to maintain patina. A smarter person would buy 2 or 3 different colours and mix appropriately, or even apply in a way that mimics patina with a dry-brush technique.

Finally, because the Blackrocks hasn't fully absorbed, I am seeing a bit of colour transfer. I am letting the bag sit for about a week before trying to carry it, but it does seem to be 'setting'.
I used acrylic paint on strap edges. They were hairy so it took a lot of paint to cover them and now they are a bit stiff. All of the exposed leather edges on the bag got a coat of acrylic mixed with moisturizer, applied with a very small brush. I had trimmed the straggly bits with sharp scissors first. Inside of bag was shaved with a sweater shaver :smile:

Not sure how to fix the warped flap or flopping handle. Any suggestions would be welcome!
Thanks!!
 

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Hi rehabbers,
I just received what I believe is a Coach Logan from shopgoodwill. The bag is in pretty good condition, except that someone chopped the strap. The new length is awkward and means it must be carried as a shoulder bag. It’s attached through the top dowel with stirrup shaped D-rings, like a Willis. Has anyone dealt with a strap replacement on a dowel family bag? How did you do it?
 

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Hi rehabbers,
I just received what I believe is a Coach Logan from shopgoodwill. The bag is in pretty good condition, except that someone chopped the strap. The new length is awkward and means it must be carried as a shoulder bag. It’s attached through the top dowel with stirrup shaped D-rings, like a Willis. Has anyone dealt with a strap replacement on a dowel family bag? How did you do it?
Also, if anyone has a Logan, could you tell me how long the strap should be?
 
Hi rehabbers,
I just received what I believe is a Coach Logan from shopgoodwill. The bag is in pretty good condition, except that someone chopped the strap. The new length is awkward and means it must be carried as a shoulder bag. It’s attached through the top dowel with stirrup shaped D-rings, like a Willis. Has anyone dealt with a strap replacement on a dowel family bag? How did you do it?
You should be able to remove the D-rings by unscrewing the screw and taking them apart.
 
I attempted a rehab on one a couple of years ago. The leather wasn't nearly as nice as Coach's leather, and it was thin on some parts of the bag. I didn't feel like a bath and conditioning helped it much. The leather didn't really improve all that much. In fact, it may have made it worse. The bath also made the Cashin for Meyers logo practically disappear. I don't think I would dunk it if I had it to do over.
Same here. I ruined a very cute Cashin for Myers bag by dunking it. It was really dirty, so I may have gotten overzealous. The leather is not the same as Coach.
 
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