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Hi! I have a question for all the rehabbers here :) I have recently bought quite a few scooter bags, some newer that need very little or nothing done at all. And, a few others that I have washed with good results. I used the recommended Woolite wash and than therapy oil. I had also tried the apple leather conditioner and didn't have a positive result. I think maybe I didn't buff enough after the conditioner dried, it ended up looking cracked...fine lines all through out, this was my green scooter bag. I just kept working on her with the oil and the crackling eventually disappeared. My question is about the black color older bags, though the black scooter bag is beautiful, is there a product suggested to get that very dark black look back to the leather?

When I have fading or uneven coloration I use blackrock's leather n' rich and it darkens the leather a little and helps to even out the color. It does a good job covering scuffs, scratches, and worn areas.

It is not easy to work with because it is a thick vaseline-like substance. It took awhile before I became a fan of black rocks but I was too "heavy-handed " when I was working with it.

You need to apply it lightly, wipe off the excess, let the leather rest for a day, buff and repeat the process until you get the desired results.

If you post photos we may be able to offer more specific advice, good luck!
 
Sounds like a plan. Its late tonight but tomorrow after work Ill attempt some pictures of green and black, ill be getting a navy blue one shortly that Ill rehab to so Ill post pictures of that one when it arrives...Navy, will be a gift so I really want it to look nice :)

I could kick myself because miss green was the first one I did. And right after I dunked her (I was so excited to start) I remembered I should have taken a pic!!!!! Oh well :(

Thank You Katev, for your advice. Ill look for the product you mentioned.

When I have fading or uneven coloration I use blackrock's leather n' rich and it darkens the leather a little and helps to even out the color. It does a good job covering scuffs, scratches, and worn areas.

It is not easy to work with because it is a thick vaseline-like substance. It took awhile before I became a fan of black rocks but I was too "heavy-handed " when I was working with it.

You need to apply it lightly, wipe off the excess, let the leather rest for a day, buff and repeat the process until you get the desired results.

If you post photos we may be able to offer more specific advice, good luck!
 
ladyraven65 said:
I would definitely be cautious with the crack on the cranberry colored Stewardess. The leather looks so dry--hope it isn't dry rot. I would take Jessi's advice and pm Docride as she is an invaluable source of info for leather care and resoration. I have seen her work wonders on some vintage Hermes Kelly and Birkin bags that looked beyond help. Good luck and let us know how the projects progress.

Thanks for the tip!! I am also concerned its in the beginning stages of dry rot; it isn't like cardboard consistency yet but it is definitely REALLY rough and REALLY stiff. I'm still waiting for my shipment of Obenaufs oil (should be here tomorrow) and last night I couldn't stand it any longer so i put some black rocks on it. WOW. What a difference!!! As soon as I smeared it on the leather gobbled it up like it was stranded without water in a desert! The leather turned a lustrous deep maroon and just felt soooo much different. This project is getting interesting! I nearly used a quarter of the jar massaging it in, getting in the nooks and crannys. I left the under side of the flap alone and the inside of the bag since black rocks has that Vaseline kind of after feel, but overall this Stewardess looks like she's on the road to recovery. I experimented with strap, it was so dry I could hold it vertically like a loaf of French bread! I massaged plenty of black rocks on it and the leather turned supple and rich. The crack is still there but doesn't look so scary now that it's moisturized.

I receive the oil tomorrow and will experiment. I'm going to really douse it to permeate all the layers, then allow it to rest and repeat.

I'll probably do what I can and then pm docride about the crack. It seems this bag is responding (fingers crossed) to moisturizers so I hope to get it nice and soft, then see what to do to prevent the crack from spreading.
 
Blackrock is definitely geared towards very dry bags. Obenaufs is supposed to be also. I have it, but haven't really used it much because I didn't want to take the time to "warm" it (mine may not be the same formula you are getting)
 
Thanks for the tip!! I am also concerned its in the beginning stages of dry rot; it isn't like cardboard consistency yet but it is definitely REALLY rough and REALLY stiff. I'm still waiting for my shipment of Obenaufs oil (should be here tomorrow) and last night I couldn't stand it any longer so i put some black rocks on it. WOW. What a difference!!! As soon as I smeared it on the leather gobbled it up like it was stranded without water in a desert! The leather turned a lustrous deep maroon and just felt soooo much different. This project is getting interesting! I nearly used a quarter of the jar massaging it in, getting in the nooks and crannys. I left the under side of the flap alone and the inside of the bag since black rocks has that Vaseline kind of after feel, but overall this Stewardess looks like she's on the road to recovery. I experimented with strap, it was so dry I could hold it vertically like a loaf of French bread! I massaged plenty of black rocks on it and the leather turned supple and rich. The crack is still there but doesn't look so scary now that it's moisturized.

I receive the oil tomorrow and will experiment. I'm going to really douse it to permeate all the layers, then allow it to rest and repeat.

I'll probably do what I can and then pm docride about the crack. It seems this bag is responding (fingers crossed) to moisturizers so I hope to get it nice and soft, then see what to do to prevent the crack from spreading.

I have had the best luck with black rocks when using it on really dried-out bags because I can be a little heavy-handed and smear it on and it just drinks it in.

It possible that the conditioners wll "plump up the leather" and seal the crack, but definitely consult a leather expert like Docride or Coffee&Coach (she once rehabbed a leather jacket that was like beef jerky!)
 
Thanks for the tip!! I am also concerned its in the beginning stages of dry rot; it isn't like cardboard consistency yet but it is definitely REALLY rough and REALLY stiff. I'm still waiting for my shipment of Obenaufs oil (should be here tomorrow) and last night I couldn't stand it any longer so i put some black rocks on it. WOW. What a difference!!! As soon as I smeared it on the leather gobbled it up like it was stranded without water in a desert! The leather turned a lustrous deep maroon and just felt soooo much different. This project is getting interesting! I nearly used a quarter of the jar massaging it in, getting in the nooks and crannys. I left the under side of the flap alone and the inside of the bag since black rocks has that Vaseline kind of after feel, but overall this Stewardess looks like she's on the road to recovery. I experimented with strap, it was so dry I could hold it vertically like a loaf of French bread! I massaged plenty of black rocks on it and the leather turned supple and rich. The crack is still there but doesn't look so scary now that it's moisturized.

I receive the oil tomorrow and will experiment. I'm going to really douse it to permeate all the layers, then allow it to rest and repeat.

I'll probably do what I can and then pm docride about the crack. It seems this bag is responding (fingers crossed) to moisturizers so I hope to get it nice and soft, then see what to do to prevent the crack from spreading.

Oh I am glad the Stewardess is showing improvement. It is amazing how the vintage bags can take a beating and still regain some of their former glory with a bit of love and attention! I swear by Blackrocks-I rehabbed a NYC Espresso Brown Stewardess (pics are a few pages back) that was so dry it was actually a pale greyish tan when I received it. Many applications of Blackrocks and Obenaufs later it has become soft, supple and gorgeous. Probably one of my favorite bags!
I haven't tried the Obenaufs oil but I have the Obenaufs LP which is solid. They do recommend that you warm it before application. I just scoop some up in my hand and let it warm up to body temp and then apply. Works wonders and it smells faintly of honey-love it!
I have an original vintage Rambler coming (the larger version) and a vintage black Willis too that will need some serious help but I love a challenge. I will post pics when I am done.
Keep us posted!
 
I have an original vintage Rambler coming (the larger version) and a vintage black Willis too that will need some serious help but I love a challenge. I will post pics when I am done.
Keep us posted!

Bag twins...! I am going to post photos of my Large original Rambler bag soon too!! She too had that almost "gray" /taupe beige color from dryness -and darkened beautifully to a nice tan with Blackrock. I may put on a layer of Obenauf LP -for good measure, but she's so much better with just the blackrock on her!! She's not perfect but I'm happy with her over all. I'll be posting soon
 
I have a suede question. If you had a really dirty old suede unlined coach bag from the 70's. ...would you think about dunking her? I want to buy one that is pretty cool, but dirty. I think I'm going to chance it, because I keep imagining that OLD Coach suede would wash and look fine- as tough as those bags are... AND .... because the insides of the vintage bags I'm used to are already that unlined suede-like material so I'd like to think it would be close to the same thing??? But, I thought I"d run it by you guys since maybe you've owned or worked with the older suede bags, and I haven't. !! sooo.. be honest and give me your gut reaction....mine is YES I'D TRY IT-haha, but I'm only asking in case there's something about the outer suede that is too delicate to do, that I am unaware of. -thanks, Jess
 
Bag twins...! I am going to post photos of my Large original Rambler bag soon too!! She too had that almost "gray" /taupe beige color from dryness -and darkened beautifully to a nice tan with Blackrock. I may put on a layer of Obenauf LP -for good measure, but she's so much better with just the blackrock on her!! She's not perfect but I'm happy with her over all. I'll be posting soon
Awesome-can't wait to see pics! I like the larger size of the original Ramblers better than the newer ones. I had to laugh because the seller described the bag as " smelling like an old baseball glove and feeling like one too". I'll probably have my work cut out for me but for $28 shipped I thought I would take the chance.:smile1:
I also read your question about dunking the suede bag. I have pretty thoroughly wet the inside of a vintage Stewardess and then rubbed semi-dry with an old towel. Once it was completely dry I then used a brush to get the nap back up and it came out great (and clean). I have never dunked an entire suede bag before but if the price is right and the bag is soiled enough I would certainly give it a try.
 
I have a suede question. If you had a really dirty old suede unlined coach bag from the 70's. ...would you think about dunking her? I want to buy one that is pretty cool, but dirty. I think I'm going to chance it, because I keep imagining that OLD Coach suede would wash and look fine- as tough as those bags are... AND .... because the insides of the vintage bags I'm used to are already that unlined suede-like material so I'd like to think it would be close to the same thing??? But, I thought I"d run it by you guys since maybe you've owned or worked with the older suede bags, and I haven't. !! sooo.. be honest and give me your gut reaction....mine is YES I'D TRY IT-haha, but I'm only asking in case there's something about the outer suede that is too delicate to do, that I am unaware of. -thanks, Jess

I gave a bath to my Italian Coach Gramercy Zip bag (link below) and it is lined with a very soft suede. I tried surface cleaning but it didn't do the job so I dunked her and scrubbed her inside and out and the lining came out gorgeous!

However, the lining is a light beige so I didn't have to worry about fading, what color is your suede bag?

Bebepurse sent a colored suede bag through the washer and dryer! See the link below. Good luck!

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/now-cousin-has-come-over-italy-join-family-717893.html

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/old-bags-got-face-lifts-604656.html
 
I gave a bath to my Italian Coach Gramercy Zip bag (link below) and it is lined with a very soft suede. I tried surface cleaning but it didn't do the job so I dunked her and scrubbed her inside and out and the lining came out gorgeous!

However, the lining is a light beige so I didn't have to worry about fading, what color is your suede bag?

Bebepurse sent a colored suede bag through the washer and dryer! See the link below. Good luck!

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/now-cousin-has-come-over-italy-join-family-717893.html

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/old-bags-got-face-lifts-604656.html

Thank you for those links!! I'll read them for sure. The bag is a lighter blue color. If the Gramercy survived, then I"m feeling pretty brave. I remember reading about your rehab of that bag and it did really well!!
 
Well, my large silver sophia came in the mail today.. The handles are matte silver, so I don't think it'll be difficult to find acrylic paint to match that. The body is not too bad, considering I paid less than 90 after shipping. There were a few minor rubbed spots (particularly in the back area, where it probably rubbed from being carried), but with the shimmer and all, not particularly noticeable until I really looked. I doubt if it's an acrylic paint touch up kind of project, but I'll be on the look out for potential solutions. Silver leaf, perhaps? In the meantime, I think I'm fine with using her with just handles touched up..
 
OK....I can't believe I spent more than my usual for a rehab project, but that suede bag would NOT LEAVE MY MIND since I saw her first listed yesterday, and I was so afraid someone else would do a BUY IT NOW for this rare bag, so I went for it. The photos make her look kinda seafoam, which I was kinda "meh" about, and I wrote the seller a note and she confirmed it to be actually a richer forest green...(yay, one of my fave colors)!! I'll keep you posted on what kind of washing she needs!
this is a link. I'll post better photos hopefully later. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120886101163
 
OK....I can't believe I spent more than my usual for a rehab project, but that suede bag would NOT LEAVE MY MIND since I saw her first listed yesterday, and I was so afraid someone else would do a BUY IT NOW for this rare bag, so I went for it. The photos make her look kinda seafoam, which I was kinda "meh" about, and I wrote the seller a note and she confirmed it to be actually a richer forest green...(yay, one of my fave colors)!! I'll keep you posted on what kind of washing she needs!
this is a link. I'll post better photos hopefully later. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120886101163

I was watching that bag, it's gorgeous and unusal! I am so glad that it went at a great price to a TPF rehabber! I think you got a steal! I can't wait to see the pics!
 
Well, my large silver sophia came in the mail today.. The handles are matte silver, so I don't think it'll be difficult to find acrylic paint to match that. The body is not too bad, considering I paid less than 90 after shipping. There were a few minor rubbed spots (particularly in the back area, where it probably rubbed from being carried), but with the shimmer and all, not particularly noticeable until I really looked. I doubt if it's an acrylic paint touch up kind of project, but I'll be on the look out for potential solutions. Silver leaf, perhaps? In the meantime, I think I'm fine with using her with just handles touched up..

That's a wonderful price for a metallic sophia! I don't remember if I already gave you the link below (?) but I used acrylic paint to touch up rubbing damage on a metallic bag and it came out great. Good luck!

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/us...age-damaged-metallic-leather-pics-722169.html
 
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