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#826
Hi ladies. I don't have a burning desire to know, but while I was browsing eBay, I saw my envelope bag (mine is putty colored. I think.) Only this one was "eggplant" and the seller was attempting to sell it for almost $350! Did it ever originally come in eggplant do you think, or is this a re-dye?

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#827
^^^I don't know about original colors, but this bag is a Beauty, I love the color!!!!!! But, it does look as though the hangtag doesn't match the rest of the bag, so maybe a redye or some polish? I would be a little worried about the condition of the bag when I received it, due to the way she describes it in the listing. But, it certainly is a unique style and color :smile1:
 
#828
x UHOH X said:
Hi MagicMargie - yes, the photos worked. All those purses look good, but I'm not an authenticator. Here are a couple of things you can do before you post in the Authentication thread: 1.) proof read the creeds -- look for misspelled words, 2.) search the whole forum for those creed #s -- if they are common fake creed #s, the posts will pop up during that search, and 3.) weed out the blurry photos you have -- you took multiples, and you have some good ones, so once you've done those other prep tasks, you can go through the photos. If you use a digital camera, you might want to try the macro setting (the little flower setting) to get better closeups. You've done a good job of taking photos of what they need, but like I said before: the hangtags photos aren't very useful since they are removable; anybody can buy a hangtag for a real Coach and put it on a fake. It's good to keep photos of the hangtags for YOUR records, but the authenticators don't need it.

Are you also going to fix them before you list them? They all look like they're in decent condition with a little minor wear.
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This is good advice. The blurry photos are useless-retake and make sure they are clear, esp. the creed photos, and as you've been told several times, post in the Authenticate This forum, not here. The people there are super knowledgeable and helpful and will be able to tell you a lot about your bags.
 
#829
YokelMel said:
^^^I don't know about original colors, but this bag is a Beauty, I love the color!!!!!! But, it does look as though the hangtag doesn't match the rest of the bag, so maybe a redye or some polish? I would be a little worried about the condition of the bag when I received it, due to the way she describes it in the listing. But, it certainly is a unique style and color :smile1:
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Well, I think the $350 price tag kind of turned me off..especially when my pretty little (albeit abused) putty colored envelope bag was only $21. I think I like the vintage ones - gives me something to do, and reason to post in here! :graucho:
 
#830
x UHOH X said:
Well, I think the $350 price tag kind of turned me off..especially when my pretty little (albeit abused) putty colored envelope bag was only $21. I think I like the vintage ones - gives me something to do, and reason to post in here! :graucho:
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I agree! If you browse some of her other listings the prices are super high. Way too high in my opinion...I'd rather get one that I can rehab myself. :smile1:
 
#831
This may be a double post, as I can't find my original one!!! LOL

Anyway, our local Humane Society thrift shop received 11 Coach bags (which I have authenticated). I post them on eBay (some are NYC, ladies) for resale. There is one which is in what I consider terrible shape--some very dark lines on it and somewhat grungy strap and cording.

Do you think there is any hope for it?

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If so, would you start with the Dawn soak and continue through to the 2-2 conditionings?

BTW where can I buy Apple conditioner?

Thanks.
 
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magicmargie said:
This may be a double post, as I can't find my original one!!! LOL

Anyway, our local Humane Society thrift shop received 11 Coach bags (which I have authenticated). I post them on eBay (some are NYC, ladies) for resale. There is one which is in what I consider terrible shape--some very dark lines on it and somewhat grungy strap and cording.

Do you think there is any hope for it?

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If so, would you start with the Dawn soak and continue through to the 2-2 conditionings?

BTW where can I buy Apple conditioner?

Thanks.
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:smile1: I'm still new at this rehab game, but even I've seen worse that that so it shouldn't be too hard. Yes, your best bet is to start with the dunking - I like Woolite, KateV likes Ivory and Woolite. I don't think anybody really talked about Dawn, though...Not sure how that would work. You can get Apple, and even Leather CPR and BlackRocks, cleaner in a few places: on eBay, sometimes a hobby shop or a fabrics store (like JoAnn or Michaels?), but more likely at a horse-tack or leather goods store (like Tandy Leather.) I haven't had any luck finding leather cleaners/conditioners at hobby shops or material stores. Good luck!
 
#833
magicmargie said:
This may be a double post, as I can't find my original one!!! LOL

Anyway, our local Humane Society thrift shop received 11 Coach bags (which I have authenticated). I post them on eBay (some are NYC, ladies) for resale. There is one which is in what I consider terrible shape--some very dark lines on it and somewhat grungy strap and cording.

Do you think there is any hope for it?

If so, would you start with the Dawn soak and continue through to the 2-2 conditionings?

BTW where can I buy Apple conditioner?

Thanks.
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Nice bag, and there is still a lot of life left in it! I agree that I would start with a long soak and vigorous bath in Ivory or Woolite. I have never used Dawn but it is supposed to work well on grease spots - but I don't know about that. I would shape the bag and stuff it with towels while it is drying. After it is dry I would condition the leather and polish any hardware.

I buy Apple Conditioner at the Burlington Coat Factory and Leather CPR at the Tuesday Morning Store. I buy Wenol metal polish online and I get most of my other leather care products at a local tack shop (equestrian horse-riding store.)

I usually find British Tan bags like your bag quite challenging to clean and condition because it is a lighter-colored leather and it shows spots, stains, and darkening in "high-touch areas" like straps and around turnlocks and closures. Such discolorations often persist after cleaning.

I usually resort to Black Rock Leather n Rich to condition British Tan bags. It can be a little difficult to work with but it does darken leathers and that helps to even out inconsistent coloring.

The link below includes a summary of the leather care products I frequently use and my opinions and tips for their use. Good luck, that's a lovely bag so give rehabbing a try!

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/ca...oner-opinions-please-697350.html#post19580337

I didn't have much experience with Black Rock when I wrote the post at the above link but I have since learned to use it more efficiently (thanks to Docride at the Hermes forum) and now I like it a lot for bags with inconsistent coloring. Here is some more information about the best way to use Black Rock:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club-624452-37.html#post19792894
 
#834
i am definitely a rescuer. when my mother passed away, she left a treasure trove of classic coach items that my sister and i decided to keep. after all these years, the leather was still in great shape and the styling was simply classic.
 
#835
katev said:
Nice bag, and there is still a lot of life left in it! I agree that I would start with a long soak and vigorous bath in Ivory or Woolite. I have never used Dawn but it is supposed to work well on grease spots - but I don't know about that. I would shape the bag and stuff it with towels while it is drying. After it is dry I would condition the leather and polish any hardware.

I buy Apple Conditioner at the Burlington Coat Factory and Leather CPR at the Tuesday Morning Store. I buy Wenol metal polish online and I get most of my other leather care products at a local tack shop (equestrian horse-riding store.)

I usually find British Tan bags like your bag quite challenging to clean and condition because it is a lighter-colored leather and it shows spots, stains, and darkening in "high-touch areas" like straps and around turnlocks and closures. Such discolorations often persist after cleaning.

I usually resort to Black Rock Leather n Rich to condition British Tan bags. It can be a little difficult to work with but it does darken leathers and that helps to even out inconsistent coloring.

The link below includes a summary of the leather care products I frequently use and my opinions and tips for their use. Good luck, that's a lovely bag so give rehabbing a try!

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/ca...oner-opinions-please-697350.html#post19580337

I didn't have much experience with Black Rock when I wrote the post at the above link but I have since learned to use it more efficiently (thanks to Docride at the Hermes forum) and now I like it a lot for bags with inconsistent coloring. Here is some more information about the best way to use Black Rock:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club-624452-37.html#post19792894
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Welcome back, Kate! Hope you had a good holiday.

Oh, and word to the wiser-than-me: don't put your Black Rock rags in with regular laundry in the machine. It took me three washes to get the strong cleaner smell out of my sheets! :p

ClassicLeather said:
i am definitely a rescuer. when my mother passed away, she left a treasure trove of classic coach items that my sister and i decided to keep. after all these years, the leather was still in great shape and the styling was simply classic.
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Pics?! :smile1:
 
#836
x UHOH X said:
Welcome back, Kate! Hope you had a good holiday...
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It was nice, thanks for asking! It was a lot of work but everything came out okay and it was lovely to get together with family.

I got my Italian Gramercy Zip out today and tackled it again. I had given the suede lining a gentle cleaning a few months ago, but I wasn't happy with the results, so today I got more aggressive! I hope I haven't ruined it, keep your fingers crossed!
 
#837
Hi, momtok described step by step her rehab of two vintage NYC bags starting on this page, in which she used Dawn to wash her bags:

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/two-70s-80s-made-nyc-bags-going-through-658823.html

That's where I got the idea for using Dawn.

Appreciate your advice and am looking forward to starting my rehab project soon. How long does it usually take from start to finish if you work on it daily?

Thanks.
 
#838
katev said:
It was nice, thanks for asking! It was a lot of work but everything came out okay and it was lovely to get together with family.

I got my Italian Gramercy Zip out today and tackled it again. I had given the suede lining a gentle cleaning a few months ago, but I wasn't happy with the results, so today I got more aggressive! I hope I haven't ruined it, keep your fingers crossed!
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:cool: Don't forget your before and after pics! I discovered on that pink suede bag that I had to do it multiple times (letting it dry in between), plus serious scrubbing with the suede rubberized nubby-brush to get it to look decently. I'm very interested to see how you do.

magicmargie said:
Hi, momtok described step by step her rehab of two vintage NYC bags starting on this page, in which she used Dawn to wash her bags:

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/two-70s-80s-made-nyc-bags-going-through-658823.html

That's where I got the idea for using Dawn.

Appreciate your advice and am looking forward to starting my rehab project soon. How long does it usually take from start to finish if you work on it daily?

Thanks.
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It really depends on how well/quickly they dry. One of my bags dried within hours, the other took two days -- and that was including rotating new towels in to stuff and dry the insides about halfway through. Once the bag is dry again, it takes only a few days to really see results, mostly due to letting the leather cleaners do their stuff and settle/sink in/dry. Don't forget to take before and after photos. ;) It helps to show the marked differences when you're done.
 
#839
magicmargie said:
..Appreciate your advice and am looking forward to starting my rehab project soon. How long does it usually take from start to finish if you work on it daily?

Thanks.
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I usually figure a week to rehab a bag, it doesn't actually take that long but I am doing it in my spare time and I'm usually not in a hurry.

Vacuuming the bag, giving it a bath and stuffing it with towels takes an hour or two. I usually let it soak for awhile and if it is badly soiled I may wash it twice (and sometimes I turn the bag inside out to get the interior clean.)

I once bathed a bag that had been "touched up" with magic marker ink and shoe polish and I had to wash it multiple times. I really worked on it to make it stop "bleeding". A lot depends on the condition of the bag.

Rotating towels and air-drying may take a few days depending on the bag, but there is very little hands-on time during this period.

I condition and buff the leather several times over a couple/few days, letting the leather rest in between treatments.

Polishing the hardware and touching up the edging may take an hour or two.

Like I said, I figure a week on average for a rehab project. Some rehabs have taken longer and some are finished pretty quickly. Good luck!
 
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