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I do have a front load machine. There is a pre soak setting that I can use. Maybe I should try again. I suppose I have nothing to loose.
I would definitely try again. I don't even like my presoak setting..I don't know...maybe it is the "country" coming out in me but my vintage bags do best in the sink. One reason is I can control the soak - total submerge and time. I leave my front loader for my clothes or fabric bags ;)
 
Question for the experts and more experienced rehabbers:
What is your opinion on giving a black leather bag (unlined) a bath in Woolite for Darks?

I've washed my dark leathers with a woolite type detergent with no problems. I've also used other types of soaps and these coach bags are pretty resilient. You will always see a little bit of dye release, but with good conditioning it will bounce back and look great.
 
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Hey, I wouldn't use Dawn unless you have a grease/oil issue. It may dry out the bag. Dawn is used on wildlife that are exposed to oil spills to take the oil off their feathers. I would use woolite or another gentle cleaner. :smile1:

Thank you for the tip! So far I've had good luck with dawn but maybe I will switch to woolite or ivory.
 
I received a pretty chestnut Sutton today and it seems to have been sitting in a closet for 15 years or something. Green on part of the zipper, dust on the lining that looks almost like mold (?), and just overall needs a cleaning. But it's caviar leather, so no bath. I wonder if no-bleach wipes will be enough? And what about the inside?
 
I received a pretty chestnut Sutton today and it seems to have been sitting in a closet for 15 years or something. Green on part of the zipper, dust on the lining that looks almost like mold (?), and just overall needs a cleaning. But it's caviar leather, so no bath. I wonder if no-bleach wipes will be enough? And what about the inside?

Mold? That's scary! Does the bag smell like mildew? Not just dusty and musty but that nasty smell of wet towels that have been left to sit too long.

Mold/mildew is very hard to eliminate. I once successfully rehabed a mildewed bag but another bag totally defeated me. When it got wet the mildew came back with a vengence and I eventually destroyed the finish trying to get rid of it. I would be very cautious attempting to rehab another mildewed bag. And that mildew smell is very difficult to eliminate, too.

It may well be mold/mildew. The fact that the zipper has verdigris also suggests that the bag got wet when it was in storage or that it was stored in a humid climate.

Was the bag accurately described in the auction listing? If not, then you may want to contact the vendor to negotiate a return/refund. If you paid a fairly high price but you still want to keep it, then you should try and get a partial refund. Again, only if it was not accurately described and pictured in the auction.

If you decide to try and rehab it, do a search on TPF (not just the Coach forum) for advice on rehabbing a mildewed bag. Here's my advice but I am no expert in this area.

You might start by vacumning it well and then wiping down the interior with Lysol (non-bleach) wipes. Next clean the exterior with a clean, soft damp cloth.

You may have to rub harder than you wish to get rid of that caked on dust. I had to do that with my Gracie. She withstood it well but I did lose a little of the caviar pattern in the dirtiest area. Happily it was on the back of the bag.

If just using water isn't working. I would probably try Lexol cleaning wipes to clean the exterior. After using the wipes I would again wipe down the bag with a clean, damp cloth to remove any remaining cleaning solution.

I have successfully used Leather Therapy Restorer and Conditioner oil on my Italian caviar leather bags. It minimizes the scuffs and brings back the shine and doesn't leave any nasty, opaque residue. According to the label it also prevents mold and mildew so that may be helpful. The Leather Therapy oil has a persistent odor, but it is not overwhelming or unpleasant. I think it is a much nicer smell than Apple conditioner - but that's just my opinion - but it might help to mask other, more unpleasant odors.

I've never given a caviar pebbled leather bag a bath but I did give a bath to a lined, pebbled leather Sheridan bag and it came out just fine.

You can use metal polish on the zipper to get rid of the verdigris, but did any of the green staining get on the fabric or leather? That's really hard to remove. I am struggling with that problem on a bag right now.

I have never given a pebbled, caviar leather bag a bath, and I would hesitate to do so; but I did once give a bath to a lined, pebbled Sheridan bag and it came out fine. The creed on that bag also says that it has been "specially treated to retain a new appearance over time."

If I have tried everything else and the conditon of the bag is still not satisfactory, then I would give it a bath! But be careful, that might just encourage the mold/mildew to come back!

Let us know what you decide, good luck!
 
I did not notice a terrible odor, but I haven't really sat down to fully inspect yet, it's been a busy day. I will take some pics of the lining. Thank you so much for the advice!
 
I did not notice a terrible odor, but I haven't really sat down to fully inspect yet, it's been a busy day. I will take some pics of the lining. Thank you so much for the advice!

Yes, pictures may help to better advise you. I am glad to hear that you didn't notice a nasty odor. Maybe it's just really dusty. I am sorry if I painted a very dire scenario, but after my bad mildew experience, I always sniff bags at the thrift store and ask online vendors about strong smells!
 
I can't wait to see the "before" pics. I don't think I have seen caviar leather. I'm looking forward to the education.

In the early 1990s Coach Madison bags made in Italy were done with a "Caviar" leather texture. It is a shiny pebbled leather with a darker color precisely "printed" onto the tops of the pebbled leather "bumps". It is said to be a rare, expensive, and delicate leather surface.

You can see the pattern in some of the pics of my beechnut Gracie bag at the link below (she was a $2 Salvation Army Thrift Store find!)

http://s1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee413/katev2/Coach Beechnut Gracie/
 
In the early 1990s Coach Madison bags made in Italy were done with a "Caviar" leather texture. It is a shiny pebbled leather with a darker color precisely "printed" onto the tops of the pebbled leather "bumps". It is said to be a rare, expensive, and delicate leather surface.

You can see the pattern in some of the pics of my beechnut Gracie bag at the link below (she was a $2 Salvation Army Thrift Store find!)

http://s1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee413/katev2/Coach Beechnut Gracie/
$2 that is insane!!!! I wish I could find a bag like that for such a great price! Unfortunately I don't have any salvation armies in my area. : ( is that your favorite consignment shop BTW? If not, where is your favorite place to go find vintage coach bags? Also how often do you find yourself going?
 
I received a pretty chestnut Sutton today and it seems to have been sitting in a closet for 15 years or something. Green on part of the zipper, dust on the lining that looks almost like mold (?), and just overall needs a cleaning. But it's caviar leather, so no bath. I wonder if no-bleach wipes will be enough? And what about the inside?

I have been looking online for the same thing since I have two amazing bags needing some mildew removal. This link looked promising.
http://www.blackmoldmildewremoval.com/2011/05/10/removing-mold-and-mildew-from-leather/ I've been reading a lot of web sites about this to compile my own "best of" plans to attempt to fix the bags. Can't wait to see how yours works out!!
 
Ok so I checked out the lining of my Sutton in brighter light, I don't think it's moldy, I think it was just a combo of lots of dust, some small pulls in the fabric, and of course, pen marks. WHAT IS UP WITH PEOPLE LEAVING UNSECURED PENS IN THEIR BAGS?? God.

Anyway, I am going to try to find Lexol wipes to clean the outside and I will wipe down the lining with a regular non-bleach cleaning wipe. Then to take on the verdigiris (sp?) on the zipper. It's a nice bag of course, it just wasn't "babied", poor thing, as it deserved to be in its youth.
 
In the early 1990s Coach Madison bags made in Italy were done with a "Caviar" leather texture. It is a shiny pebbled leather with a darker color precisely "printed" onto the tops of the pebbled leather "bumps". It is said to be a rare, expensive, and delicate leather surface.

You can see the pattern in some of the pics of my beechnut Gracie bag at the link below (she was a $2 Salvation Army Thrift Store find!)

http://s1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee413/katev2/Coach Beechnut Gracie/
What a gorgeous leather!!! Did you have to rehab that bag? If you did, what did you use?
 
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