CITES, travel and exotics

[papertiger]

The Ostrich issue is confusing to me. One of my closest friends picked up a B25 recently and remarked to me that there wasn’t a CITES and she has had to keep requesting it - for most people, I would explain, but her collection is huge and she says she has always received CITES from H for her Ostrich bags. Did they used to give CITES regularly and stopped more recently?

The law changed regarding ostrich which is why you are seeing a discrepancy versus a few years ago.

Hermes use farmed South African ostrich Strutho Camelus or common ostrich so you do not need a CITES.

It may have been different years ago. There is one now extinct species of ostrich - the Arabian S. C. Camelus but unless H used those birds before the middle of the last century it's doubtful H had any connection.

The ostrich is a success story of conservation, mainly because the birds can be farmed there's a good market for feathers (one of the chief reasons ostriches were over-hunted) skins, eggs and meat. SA even allows hunting wild birds year round, Namibia by hunting season.

 

[JelenaTasker]

Guys - does CITES show bag code? In other words how do you connect CITES with a specific bag? I am asking because I am considering buying one from a resale market and it does come with cites, but how can I know that that CITES is not some random piece of paper from some random bag? I looked through the CITES they claimed is attached to the particular bag, but I cannot see how to verify the connection.

 

[Siu2786]

Hello everyone, seeking your input on the below. I’m buying a second hand alligator bag Y stamp 2022 receipt from the reseller. When I asked for cites, they said it was in the receipt. The receipt had the cites number but not a different cert. is this true?

 

[FrenchNewbie]

Hello everyone, seeking your input on the below. I’m buying a second hand alligator bag Y stamp 2022 receipt from the reseller. When I asked for cites, they said it was in the receipt. The receipt had the cites number but not a different cert. is this true?

There should be a seperate form.

 

[allanrvj]

Hello everyone, seeking your input on the below. I’m buying a second hand alligator bag Y stamp 2022 receipt from the reseller. When I asked for cites, they said it was in the receipt. The receipt had the cites number but not a different cert. is this true?

CITES is a separate document. it looks like this:

 

[Siu2786]

CITES is a separate document. it looks like this:

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There should be a seperate form.

Thank you both

 

[BalletDream]

CITES is a separate document. it looks like this:

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Do you know if a copy of CITES (like the one in the picture) is good enough for traveling with an exotic leather bag? Or do you need the original?

 

[FrenchNewbie]

Do you know if a copy of CITES (like the one in the picture) is good enough for traveling with an exotic leather bag? Or do you need the original?

tbh, most "originals" look like copies anyway--so you should be fine.

 

[allanrvj]

Do you know if a copy of CITES (like the one in the picture) is good enough for traveling with an exotic leather bag? Or do you need the original?

Not sure. But if I were traveling with an exotic bag, the original should always be with the bag. Because that’s its only purpose. For traveling

 

[vintage.elegance]

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[pheebspurse]

Hi, I've been lurking and reading all about CITES for exotics and this had me wondered; if I travel with a mini exotic bags tucked in to my carry-on luggage, would it be a problem still? (not visibly wearing it nad have it packed in my cabin luggage)

I'm thinking of getting a secondhand Fendi micro peekaboo made out of phyton but the consignment I'm dealing with doesn't have the CITES for it. I feel it's kinda unwise to get the bag, but I really looove the color/size of it.

Thanks in advance!

 

[FrenchNewbie]

Hi, I've been lurking and reading all about CITES for exotics and this had me wondered; if I travel with a mini exotic bags tucked in to my carry-on luggage, would it be a problem still? (not visibly wearing it nad have it packed in my cabin luggage)

I'm thinking of getting a secondhand Fendi micro peekaboo made out of phyton but the consignment I'm dealing with doesn't have the CITES for it. I feel it's kinda unwise to get the bag, but I really looove the color/size of it.

Thanks in advance!

Travel domestically or internationally?

I have traveled internationally and have never EVER been asked to look inside my carry-on luggage, so I don't think you would have a problem.

 

[pheebspurse]

Travel domestically or internationally?

I have traveled internationally and have never EVER been asked to look inside my carry-on luggage, so I don't think you would have a problem.

Hi, I’m thinking internationally! And glad to hear about your experience. I was worried their luggage scanner would be able to somehow detect exotics (?) hence a lot in this forum suggest against travelling with it without having CITES haha but I guess it’s only if you’re visibly wearing it, then you’d want to have the documents

 

[WhiteBus]

Hi, I've been lurking and reading all about CITES for exotics and this had me wondered; if I travel with a mini exotic bags tucked in to my carry-on luggage, would it be a problem still? (not visibly wearing it nad have it packed in my cabin luggage)

I'm thinking of getting a secondhand Fendi micro peekaboo made out of phyton but the consignment I'm dealing with doesn't have the CITES for it. I feel it's kinda unwise to get the bag, but I really looove the color/size of it.

Thanks in advance!

You are most unwise to go against your instincts.
Whatever other people's experiences might be, there is no guarantee that yours will be the same.

 

[QuelleFromage]

Hi, I've been lurking and reading all about CITES for exotics and this had me wondered; if I travel with a mini exotic bags tucked in to my carry-on luggage, would it be a problem still? (not visibly wearing it nad have it packed in my cabin luggage)

I'm thinking of getting a secondhand Fendi micro peekaboo made out of phyton but the consignment I'm dealing with doesn't have the CITES for it. I feel it's kinda unwise to get the bag, but I really looove the color/size of it.

Thanks in advance!

It will be a problem if 1) you are selected for secondary screening (also known as the "quad" or the "snake" for the SSSS code on your boarding pass) - in which case your carry-on will be inspected and there is a chance your bag gets noticed (in the US, this is TSA not CBP so they are looking for dangerous items, not exotic skin contraband) 2) something flags your bag at TSA, same deal 3) customs does a random inspection on your arrival or return from an international flight.

Depends where you live, too. Category II items are fine to bring into the USA IF they are already owned and used personal effects and you don't have more than (I think) four of them (I would recommend no more than one). However, the rules in California are different. If you live in Cali I wouldn't travel with anything python.

I have an exotic bag without CITES and I only travel with it where it's legal to do so.