Chanel’s Rise & STALL: Defects, Difficulties & Deflection (formerly the 19 tote saga thread)

[sweetpea_2009]

They could make plastic garbage sacks, and everyone would buy them. Which, they actually have w/ the 22 so the jokes on us

I happened to catch this commercial on TV this morning and it immediately made me think of the 22. I had a good chuckle about it.

 

[TraceySH]

I happened to catch this commercial on TV this morning and it immediately made me think of the 22. I had a good chuckle about it.

OMG I just spit my coffee hahahahhahahahahahaha

 

[zaraha]

I happened to catch this commercial on TV this morning and it immediately made me think of the 22. I had a good chuckle about it.

Omg this looks just like my pink 22 ha ha ha…. Now I need to find similar pink dress. hilarious our phones and tv are tracking everything we say and do.

 

[Izzy_w]

@TraceySH I nearly passed out seeing all those pics of you experimenting on your 19!!! But thank you very much for sharing! I have 3 C19 and I feel they are made very well...not like the 22.

 

[tulipfield]

Amazing thread, thank you so much OP for your daring! I kind of decided I was done with Chanel a few seasons back when I bought and returned two pairs of forties-style platforms with faulty straps and buckles (one fell clean off!). So I felt even shoes weren’t safe.

A couple of you have mentioned problems with RTW… the one thing I did still have my eye on was a Chanel suit, I’ve just been waiting for one to come along that I especially like. Would I be better served going the vintage route for suits as well?

 

[Model T]

As someone who has only recently started buying and learning about luxury bags (past 3-4 years, relatively recent to many people on TPF), it was apparent to me fairly quickly that Chanel is not what it used to be. It’s upsetting that I wasn’t around for the vintage days but that’s a matter of birth lol. Either way, within a short period of time I saw the most crooked flaps that would even make the SA cringe. I’ve also seen stunning classic flaps in the St Tropez boutique and been able to have my pick of three amazingly crafted bags. Sad to say, I have a feeling that depending on the country you’re in, Chanel quality can largely differ. Also sad to say, but if you don’t have a good relationship with a store or SA then you’ll often be stuck with only one of an item and be forced to either live with the poor quality or defect or say no to your dream bag because of how they’re restricting as of late (at least in the US).

There’s SO much valuable information on here (thanks to all the OGs) that can help new consumers be aware and mindful! Honestly after only a few months I started looking to H because the difference in quality was striking. I agree with @TraceySH - there are still really well made pieces from Chanel, including bags, but you have to be willing to look for them and have your eyes open enough to see the flaws. I bought two bags just this month and the first thing I did upon opening the box was a thorough inspection, before getting attached, and IMO they are both gorgeous and well made.

Just like any other big business, there is a TON going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about (manufacturing wise, etc). Just go into it like any other purchase from a big machine, with a touch of skepticism. Don’t let Chanel pull the tweed over your eyes, so to speak.

 

[TraceySH]

@TraceySH I nearly passed out seeing all those pics of you experimenting on your 19!!! But thank you very much for sharing! I have 3 C19 and I feel they are made very well...not like the 22.

I think they are well made. I don't think 100% leather, BUT there are some good tradeoffs to that (as you can see from my fun videos haha).

 

[TraceySH]

Amazing thread, thank you so much OP for your daring! I kind of decided I was done with Chanel a few seasons back when I bought and returned two pairs of forties-style platforms with faulty straps and buckles (one fell clean off!). So I felt even shoes weren’t safe.

A couple of you have mentioned problems with RTW… the one thing I did still have my eye on was a Chanel suit, I’ve just been waiting for one to come along that I especially like. Would I be better served going the vintage route for suits as well?

I'd go vintage all the way here....those were made to last for generations. Today's stuff really is just expensive fast fashion...and no more handmade lesage either...

 

[zaraha]

I happened to catch this commercial on TV this morning and it immediately made me think of the 22. I had a good chuckle about it.

I had to add my version, was gonna photoshop but don’t have that kind time now. Dont have pink dress to match but chanel tweed will do ha ha.
Feel free to express, I am not offended lol. After all chanel is about trash fashion not about quality anyway.

 

[TraceySH]

As someone who has only recently started buying and learning about luxury bags (past 3-4 years, relatively recent to many people on TPF), it was apparent to me fairly quickly that Chanel is not what it used to be. It’s upsetting that I wasn’t around for the vintage days but that’s a matter of birth lol. Either way, within a short period of time I saw the most crooked flaps that would even make the SA cringe. I’ve also seen stunning classic flaps in the St Tropez boutique and been able to have my pick of three amazingly crafted bags. Sad to say, I have a feeling that depending on the country you’re in, Chanel quality can largely differ. Also sad to say, but if you don’t have a good relationship with a store or SA then you’ll often be stuck with only one of an item and be forced to either live with the poor quality or defect or say no to your dream bag because of how they’re restricting as of late (at least in the US).

There’s SO much valuable information on here (thanks to all the OGs) that can help new consumers be aware and mindful! Honestly after only a few months I started looking to H because the difference in quality was striking. I agree with @TraceySH - there are still really well made pieces from Chanel, including bags, but you have to be willing to look for them and have your eyes open enough to see the flaws. I bought two bags just this month and the first thing I did upon opening the box was a thorough inspection, before getting attached, and IMO they are both gorgeous and well made.

Just like any other big business, there is a TON going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about (manufacturing wise, etc). Just go into it like any other purchase from a big machine, with a touch of skepticism. Don’t let Chanel pull the tweed over your eyes, so to speak.

All really great points here!

 

[TraceySH]

I had to add my version, was gonna photoshop but don’t have that kind time now. Dont have pink dress to match but chanel tweed will do ha ha.
Feel free to express, I am not offended lol. After all chanel is about trash fashion not about quality anyway.

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This is great Friday stuff right here. Your pinks are really gorgeous tho...

 

[tulipfield]

I'd go vintage all the way here....those were made to last for generations. Today's stuff really is just expensive fast fashion...and no more handmade lesage either...

Well that makes my decision easier, can’t beat the prices on vintage pieces either. Can you elaborate about the Lesage embroidery? Is it reserved just for haute couture now?

 

[mzbaglady1]

It's hard to stomach the fact that CHANEL is fast fashion for the rich. I myself, like @TraceySH, have tried time and time again to convince myself otherwise, but this whole thread has made me a more conscious, informed consumer.

To me, fast fashion is churning out 8 collections a year (Spring/Summer, Fall/Winter, Spring Pre-collection, Fall Pre-collection, Cruise, Métiers d'art, Coco Neige and Coco Beach) plus 2 couture shows.

Sharing the image below to remind us all that Fashion is fashion, and not necessarily quality (or taste).

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LOL!!!! I immediately thought of Jim Carey on the show in Living Color. He did a skit in a bikini that's Hilarious!

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[gail13]

Cardigan & purple classic flap are GREAT. No issues at all! There are some amazing items in all this mess, I think you just have to look for them & be pretty careful. Remember the teddy sweater? I had 6 of them. And one day I was like...wait WHAT IS THIS...(so weird stuff has been going on for a few years for sure now). Those were all tags on, same size...look @ the lengths of sleeves...

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Oh, you took advantage of the elbow length, bracelet length and wrist length sweater options.....I think QC missed a few things.

 

[gail13]

I had to add my version, was gonna photoshop but don’t have that kind time now. Dont have pink dress to match but chanel tweed will do ha ha. Feel free to express, I am not offended lol. After all chanel is about trash fashion not about quality anyway. View attachment 5578273

Do you think Hefty will get sued for trademark infringement? Or if they were first maybe Chanel committed the violation.