Chanel’s Rise & STALL: Defects, Difficulties & Deflection (formerly the 19 tote saga thread)

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#76
If there was no CC on this bag and people knew it was bonded or whatever leather it is, it wouldn't sell for more than a few hundred dollars if that. What about the quality or design of this makes it worthy of being called luxury, this is a very sad view IMO. I was just looking at the Karl Lagerfeld site assuming that maybe he would have used some of the similar materials. I see one of the lambskin bags says it is to be wiped clean.
 
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#77
mpacia said:
I said almost all their lambskin is delicate, with the exception of the 19. I don’t recall if I disclosed that, but I believe I did. I know that’s the only Chanel lamb that isn’t. I said almost all lambskin is extremely delicate, that’s a fact.

I’m not saying Chanel doesn’t have issues, they absolutely do!!! But to make a blanket statement that their bags are all made from bonded leather, etc, I believe is false. There’s a difference here. I have purchased SO many Chanel bags. And a lot of people have owned Chanel for a long time with no issues on their bags.

I’m not going to keep going back and forth with you. Stop buying Chanel then. You’re complaining about your one lamb bag being treated so much that you’re questioning the material. To me the original bag you posted doesn’t look anything like the 22 bag issues, it looks like the rubbing of your clothes ripped the lamb off.

I only came on here originally to say something about all the fake leather statements. I never said you were wrong. But I’ve literally never had your experience with chemical smelling products either.

I don’t think you want to see the other side to your argument. Just stop buying the bags and be done with it.
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Thank you for stopping by ;)
 
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#78
TraceySH said:
Did I just hear a request for acetone? Here you go!

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Wow , I stand corrected. I’ve never owned a Chanel 19, but it being able to withstand acetone is strange. I’ve seen repairs/craftsmen using acetone (a lot of it) to dissolve resin/wax coatings or oils accumulated from use. It can polyurethane (fake or the stuff that coats bonded) leather.

Not discounting your experience or anything. It’s just so perplexing wth is going on with these bags.
 
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Yhte123 said:
Wow , I stand corrected. I’ve never owned a Chanel 19, but it being able to withstand acetone is strange. I’ve seen repairs/craftsmen using acetone (a lot of it) to dissolve resin/wax coatings or oils accumulated from use. It can polyurethane (fake or the stuff that coats bonded) leather.

Not discounting your experience or anything. It’s just so perplexing wth is going on with these bags.
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Hey, me too. That’s why I posted and for no other reason. I want to know what I’m buying. It shouldn’t be this hard to find out.
 
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missD said:
This thread is the highlight of my day.

Thanks for the mind blown info and the photos OP. You have a set of ⚽️⚽️ to do that to your Chanel! LOL

Will you still buy Chanel? Or will you really be more picky moving forward?
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I don’t know. I’d like to see an overhaul of their quality, transparency and engagement with their clientele. For now, I will take a hiatus. I have plenty of bags right now & this whole process has motivated me to get back to houses like Delvaux or Moynat. And no better customer service than LV. So I’ll go where my principles take me & if something changes in the future? Great. I’ll have a look :)
 
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#82
@TraceySH, thank you for being the Nancy Drew of Purseforum. I really mean it. This whole thread is eye opening. Thank you.

TraceySH said:
even the diamonds that come in their fine jewelry (color? clarity? no disclosures)
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Although not disclosed on CHANEL's website, any knowledgeable SA with fine jewellery training will tell you that CHANEL uses diamonds of VVS clarity, color F to G. Allegedly. That's pretty good in my view.

At least this is what my SA told me.
 
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JamaisAssez said:
@TraceySH, thank you for being the Nancy Drew of Purseforum. I really mean it. This whole thread is eye opening. Thank you.



Although not disclosed on CHANEL's website, any knowledgeable SA with fine jewellery training will tell you that CHANEL uses diamonds of VVS clarity, color F to G. Allegedly. That's pretty good in my view.

At least this is what my SA told me.
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You know I asked and was told that BUT …. I am a super diamond expert & they just didn’t look like that to me but hey. Not the biggest of issues.

And. Thank you. I know I started a brouhaha, but I think we need to demand MORE. It’s time.
 
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#85
kanelbuelle said:
This whole photo series is insane! Love that you take one for the team by testing these crazy things out. For everyone with an open mind this allows to ask important questions. Was researching a little bit today myself and was surprised how little information about the leathers being used by various fashion houses is openly disclosed. Thanks OP!
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Yes! And that’s all I am hoping for. Transparency and information.
 
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@TraceySH thank you for demonstrating and taking your bag for intense “test drive”. I think maybe many of us are happy to contribute go fund me page “ further disect your bag ha ha. Would love to see a leather/cobbler can tell what’s inside outer layer. Any leather expert here has done this? Maybe material they used from Mars. I love this thread…. Keep contributing us with more valuable info plz.
 
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#88
stylequake said:
She never said "all". I hope you find peace today lol
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Dramatic much? I’m at peace, thanks. She said the “bags are made of bonded leather.” She didn’t have to say “all” to make a blanket statement. She’s clearly referring to Chanel bags and generalizing. I never said some Chanel bags can’t/don’t have quality issues. She just refuses to acknowledge the flip side of her pov.
 
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zaraha said:
@TraceySH thank you for demonstrating and taking your bag for intense “test drive”. I think maybe many of us are happy to contribute go fund me page “ further disect your bag ha ha. Would love to see a leather/cobbler can tell what’s inside outer layer. Any leather expert here has done this? Maybe material they used from Mars. I love this thread…. Keep contributing us with more valuable info plz.
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I am dying to get inside that thing! But I also really like the dark grey one. I clearly woke up in a sassy mood, maybe the next one will involve a lil surgery lol
 
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#90
mpacia said:
Dramatic much? I’m at peace, thanks. She said the “bags are made of bonded leather.” She didn’t have to say “all” to make a blanket statement. She’s clearly referring to Chanel bags and generalizing. I never said some Chanel bags can’t/don’t have quality issues. She just refuses to acknowledge the flip side of her pov.
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SMH again. I think I’ve acknowledged the “flip side” by spending millions of dollars with Chanel, no? And 50k this month? No?
 
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