Chanel’s Rise & STALL: Defects, Difficulties & Deflection (formerly the 19 tote saga thread)

TPF may earn a commission from merchant affiliate
links, including eBay, Amazon, and others

#378
Swanky said:
I'm right there with you! I prefer lamb all day and I have had no quality issues in any of mine; I've been buying since about 2006.
I've bought 5 in the last 3 months, they're all delicious in my opinion, which is the only one that matters to me lol
Click to expand...
I’m with you.
Swanky said:
I'm right there with you! I prefer lamb all day and I have had no quality issues in any of mine; I've been buying since about 2006.
I've bought 5 in the last 3 months, they're all delicious in my opinion, which is the only one that matters to me lol
Click to expand...
bagsaremyjam said:
You’re forgetting I also referred to usage in those statements. To someone with discerning attention to detail and extensive bag experience I believe that comparison can me made, yes. And even to those that don’t, I still believe it. But there are a lot to people who haven’t been around luxury and can appreciate it fully until they’ve had experience with it.

What you’re not understanding about what I’m saying is there are people who blindly buy who don’t appreciate the way things are made, so they’ll just go in and buy a bag because of the name. They may never have owned a luxury bag at this point. They’ll think it’s nice but know nothing about what they purchased or what the material means in relation to wear, etc. They just purchase without even remotely educating themselves.

I have friends who like luxury but don’t purchase the way I do. They purchase because they like it and what the brand means to them. But do they all examine the design and quality like I do? Not at all. There are very few of my friends who purchase luxury who do. They just don’t have passion for or value design, bags, luxury goods and materials the way I do, which is how I found myself on TPF as a teenager. A lot of people really can’t tell you in detail the difference between a regular contemporary bag and a designer because they’re not passionate about it or aren’t detail oriented in regards to that kind of stuff.
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
#380
Swanky said:
IG is funny that way. . . my algorithm is enticing me with baby and kitty pics, and a few random make up tutorials lol!
Click to expand...
I’ll take dogs and other animals over grown women doing 15 minute unboxings any day. If you have a bag or shoes, show them. We don’t need to see the whole unboxing.
I don’t know, maybe it’s me but seeing dog videos is far less childish than watching someone open a box. I’m sure you’d agree.

Swanky said:
IG is funny that way. . . my algorithm is enticing me with baby and kitty pics, and a few random make up tutorials lol!
Click to expand...
The edited makeup and hair tutorials just kill me.

waterlily112 said:
Lmao! Same...my IG algorithm is full of kitties and puppies having nicer hair than me :noworry:
Click to expand...
The animal videos I have to admit, I love. The edited makeup and supposedly easy hair tutorials. Those are just crazy. for some reason the cake decorating videos soothe me even though I don’t love cake.
 
  • Like
  • Insightful
Reactions: Bagatha Christie, JoeyLouis, BorntoRunandShop and 6 others
#382
bagsaremyjam said:
You’re forgetting I also referred to usage in those statements. To someone with discerning attention to detail and extensive bag experience I believe that comparison can me made, yes. And even to those that don’t, I still believe it. But there are a lot to people who haven’t been around luxury and can appreciate it fully until they’ve had experience with it.

What you’re not understanding about what I’m saying is there are people who blindly buy who don’t appreciate the way things are made, so they’ll just go in and buy a bag because of the name. They may never have owned a luxury bag at this point. They’ll think it’s nice but know nothing about what they purchased or what the material means in relation to wear, etc. They just purchase without even remotely educating themselves.

I have friends who like luxury but don’t purchase the way I do. They purchase because they like it and what the brand means to them. But do they all examine the design and quality like I do? Not at all. There are very few of my friends who purchase luxury who do. They just don’t have passion for or value design, bags, luxury goods and materials the way I do, which is how I found myself on TPF as a teenager. A lot of people really can’t tell you in detail the difference between a regular contemporary bag and a designer because they’re not passionate about it or aren’t detail oriented in regards to that kind of stuff.
Click to expand...
You’re a Camellia client too?
 
#383
To continue to go OT (sorry), but you know what else is odd to me?? The recent minis with charms are priced higher than a regular lambskin mini and the reg lamb minis are, arguably, because I’m arguing it, WAY higher in demand. It’s like Chanel is playing in your face saying “Oh you want this mini? Well let’s make it even harder for you to get because we’re restricting stock BUT because we know you’re sooo thirsty for us we’ll sell you a different bag that’s MORE expensive and it clangs when you walk. That sound good??” :lol:

I personally sympathize with people who do not research all that could be wrong with an $8k+ bag. When a brand has a reputation of delivering high quality goods or services you really shouldn’t have to. Further, I think anyone paying that much has the right to voice their discrepancies all day if they please, but I urge my friends to remember to protect themselves first and research what to look for so you don’t go in with rose colored glasses. Also, I would presume to guess that many of the people purchasing these pieces work 60+ hours a week. I wouldn’t expect them to spend what’s left of their free time stalking PF to play the game of What’s Wrong With This Chanel Collection. I use At&t for my internet, because they advertise that they can provide me with internet access, not because I’ve researched how wifi works.
 
  • Like
  • Haha
  • Insightful
Reactions: C.Ly, Bagatha Christie, MiSa2019 and 16 others
#384
GucciGoneWild said:
To continue to go OT (sorry), but you know what else is odd to me?? The recent minis with charms are priced higher than a regular lambskin mini and the reg lamb minis are, arguably, because I’m arguing it, WAY higher in demand. It’s like Chanel is playing in your face saying “Oh you want this mini? Well let’s make it even harder for you to get because we’re restricting stock BUT because we know you’re sooo thirsty for us we’ll sell you a different bag that’s MORE expensive and it clangs when you walk. That sound good??” :lol:

I personally sympathize with people who do not research all that could be wrong with an $8k+ bag. When a brand has a reputation of delivering high quality goods or services you really shouldn’t have to. Further, I think anyone paying that much has the right to voice their discrepancies all day if they please, but I urge my friends to remember to protect themselves first and research what to look for so you don’t go in with rose colored glasses. Also, I would presume to guess that many of the people purchasing these pieces work 60+ hours a week. I wouldn’t expect them to spend what’s left of their free time stalking PF to play the game of What’s Wrong With This Chanel Collection. I use At&t for my internet, because they advertise that they can provide me with internet access, not because I’ve researched how wifi works.
Click to expand...

I would also say there are diminishing returns when it comes to price vs quality (if we disregard marketing). For example, I can definitely distinguish between an $8 white t-shirt and an $80 white t-shirt (how it looks and wears), but my untrained country bumpkin eye :biggrin: can't tell the difference between that $80 t-shirt and $800 t-shirt with a logo slapped on it. At that point the markup is for the brand.
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Reactions: Penelopepursula, pjrufus, lovieluvslux and 9 others
#385
Coach Superfan said:
The MJ Collection is what I was referring to and it sounds like you're describing the Stam, which is only one bag out of his well known collection and featured a kisslock closure on top. The "classic" line in its heydey included but is not limited to the more popular Stam, Venetia, Blake, Stella, Sophia, Elise models. They came quilted, patchwork, or smooth. The prices ranged from like $900 and up depending on the size. I think the Stam started around $1600 but there was a much higher priced rare ostrich version. There was even a quilted flap bag somewhat resembling a Chanel CF. His lower line also available at that same era is/was Marc by Marc Jacobs, which I'm not sure is still in production.
Click to expand...
Digressing but I loved MJ when he first left LV to start his own line. I so loved the bags in the main line and the lower priced line but more than anything I loved his RTW. The leather was great but ironically I stopped buying bags because they became too heavy for me. I have hoarded one small pochette and the leather on it is amazing. What I loved the most was his RTW. I have hoarded so much of MJ sweaters and t-shirts it’s scary. Too bad he had to scale back so much on design and quality. But I so loved his aesthetic.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bagatha Christie, lovieluvslux, jenna and 1 other person
#388
fantajisan said:
I would also say there are diminishing returns when it comes to price vs quality (if we disregard marketing). For example, I can definitely distinguish between an $8 white t-shirt and an $80 white t-shirt (how it looks and wears), but my untrained country bumpkin eye :biggrin: can't tell the difference between that $80 t-shirt and $800 t-shirt with a logo slapped on it. At that point the markup is for the brand.
Click to expand...
And you would be shocked how much this happens. I have shopped the LA Garment District for years and talked to countless merchants who sell to all kinds of people. You can buy stuff for $10 that resells for 10x the price and no one has any idea. And yes, the perceived brand perception is what sells it, not the actual quality.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bagatha Christie, Glitterbomb, lovieluvslux and 7 others
#390
fantajisan said:
I would also say there are diminishing returns when it comes to price vs quality (if we disregard marketing). For example, I can definitely distinguish between an $8 white t-shirt and an $80 white t-shirt (how it looks and wears), but my untrained country bumpkin eye :biggrin: can't tell the difference between that $80 t-shirt and $800 t-shirt with a logo slapped on it. At that point the markup is for the brand.
Click to expand...
Definitely agree!! However I think it might be more obvious on shirts where you can easily check the tag and see what the item is made of (polyester vs cotton vs tencel vs etc) than a CF for instance. To the untrained eye, they all look good, or at least they all did when I started buying! But now I know better. Not saying that their price reflects their quality, but most people would assume it does if they didn’t look into it, you know?

SN: I’m absolutely loving this thread
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bagatha Christie, tulipfield and baghabitz34
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top