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This is so interesting. I always thought the implants were the Rolls-Royce solution, for both cost and quality.

I had implants done 2 and half years ago and I could not be happier, I had caps before, you need to replace them every 15 years or so (sometimes they last 20) and I honestly wasn't happy with them, then was attacked and the guy broke my jaw and cheekbone, the crack in the jaw damaged the roots, so I got horrendous root infections and after deliberating for a while, decided to go for implants. They gave me a really big blood test to check if my bone structure is sound, a lot of questions about lifestyle, smoking (they will not do it if you are diabetic, a smoker, or more than a moderate drinker, also your thyroid has to be regulated, Vitamin D levels OK, etc.), their usual thing is that you have had to have quit smoking at least 6 months ago, since for me it's 8 years plus, it wasn't an issue. The procedure is incredibly painful (had the whole jaw done) and you will stay inside for 2 weeks or you scare children and small dogs, then for ages only softish food. I had the issue with the covering of one screw coming off, since you are going to have them cleaned once a year, it then gets replaced anyway and your dentist can always put another filling over it. It's the 1st 6 months after you get the implants that you have do be really careful, I do the regular check up every 6 months, so in case there might be anything, they can act straight away, but so far, great. I am using the water pick religiously, they honestly look fantastic, so far really no issue (knock on wood) and they guarantee you the first 5 years, if anything fails, they replace it, unless of course you started smoking, stopped taking thyroid meds despite your Dr recommending them, etc.

They are not the easy solution, they aren't cheap, but honestly, I wouldn't want to miss them, ever!

Oh to add, my aunt got some, she has a lot of problems, but she went to a local dentist, didn't research and oddly enough her dentist just went "Oh don't smoke on the day we put them in" - so she kept happily puffing away. I think a lot of it depends on your health, your bone structure, how seriously you research and follow the recommendations of a good dentist (I went to a dental clinic that specializes in implants, they do nothing else).
 
My sister's experience with her implant is more in line with Limom's. The dentist didn't check her bloodwork like Gabs007's dentist did and considering Vitamin D deficiency runs in our family that could have been a risk. Her implant is smaller than the other molars in her teeth and the shape looks fake. I also don't think there is a coating over the metal/screw. I'll have to ask. I know a decent chunk of her tooth was broken off but I don't know if it was enough to warrant an implant.

Like some other posters my sister and I thought an implant was the cream of the crop in regards to broken/damaged teeth but it looks like it depends on the situation and the dentist. Implants are SO expensive and quite invasive that you want the best of the best.

Regarding my husband's tooth, it's been filled and re-filled so many times that I think it's more filling than tooth. It's a ticking time bomb. For the past couple years it's been ok but it will often hurt while eating, 2 years ago he ate popcorn and a chunk of tooth broke off (no more popcorn for him), and a dentist will sometimes need to add to the filling (I think the original cavity wasn't fully filled and maybe some shoddy dentistry). Because of this I don't know if he'd be able to get a cap and we can't afford an implant right now. He's fine with getting it pulled and that's that but I wonder about the bone loss in his jaw because a tooth is no longer there.
 
My sister's experience with her implant is more in line with Limom's. The dentist didn't check her bloodwork like Gabs007's dentist did and considering Vitamin D deficiency runs in our family that could have been a risk. Her implant is smaller than the other molars in her teeth and the shape looks fake. I also don't think there is a coating over the metal/screw. I'll have to ask. I know a decent chunk of her tooth was broken off but I don't know if it was enough to warrant an implant.

Like some other posters my sister and I thought an implant was the cream of the crop in regards to broken/damaged teeth but it looks like it depends on the situation and the dentist. Implants are SO expensive and quite invasive that you want the best of the best.

Regarding my husband's tooth, it's been filled and re-filled so many times that I think it's more filling than tooth. It's a ticking time bomb. For the past couple years it's been ok but it will often hurt while eating, 2 years ago he ate popcorn and a chunk of tooth broke off (no more popcorn for him), and a dentist will sometimes need to add to the filling (I think the original cavity wasn't fully filled and maybe some shoddy dentistry). Because of this I don't know if he'd be able to get a cap and we can't afford an implant right now. He's fine with getting it pulled and that's that but I wonder about the bone loss in his jaw because a tooth is no longer there.
He should probably do something sooner rather than later. It’ll be expensive and painful if he gets an infection. I’m no dentist, but I think so long as the root of the tooth is sound they can crown it - modern ceramics are pretty strong.
 
My sister's experience with her implant is more in line with Limom's. The dentist didn't check her bloodwork like Gabs007's dentist did and considering Vitamin D deficiency runs in our family that could have been a risk. Her implant is smaller than the other molars in her teeth and the shape looks fake. I also don't think there is a coating over the metal/screw. I'll have to ask. I know a decent chunk of her tooth was broken off but I don't know if it was enough to warrant an implant.

Like some other posters my sister and I thought an implant was the cream of the crop in regards to broken/damaged teeth but it looks like it depends on the situation and the dentist. Implants are SO expensive and quite invasive that you want the best of the best.

Regarding my husband's tooth, it's been filled and re-filled so many times that I think it's more filling than tooth. It's a ticking time bomb. For the past couple years it's been ok but it will often hurt while eating, 2 years ago he ate popcorn and a chunk of tooth broke off (no more popcorn for him), and a dentist will sometimes need to add to the filling (I think the original cavity wasn't fully filled and maybe some shoddy dentistry). Because of this I don't know if he'd be able to get a cap and we can't afford an implant right now. He's fine with getting it pulled and that's that but I wonder about the bone loss in his jaw because a tooth is no longer there.

That was one of the issues I faced, I had a lot of dental work done, bridges and caps mainly, because due to a genetic weird thing, my eye teeth were missing, now you don't want gaps or never be able to smile, so apart from suffering as a teenager from braces (I honestly hated them) when I was I think 18 or so, I got the bridgework done, to do that, they had to file down the other teeth, then after a few years, the problems with getting infections, then new crowns and bridges, and every time they file the teeth down. The amount of money the bridges and crowning cost me, I think it would have been a medium sized house, then the problem with the roots due to the jaw fracture. I honestly had nightmares thinking about how they pulled the teeth, then drilled into my jaw to put the implants in. I visited about 5 different dental clinics, when I asked about smoking (I am friends with a dentist in LA who told me smoking and implants, the risk is so stupid, he won't do it, not even if the patient signs that it is his own risk, as this results in law suits and damaging his reputation) and they played the risk down, I knew I wouldn't go to them (despite the fact that I had stopped, I just wanted to see how ethical and well informed they are - if they play that down, I wouldn't trust them).

In the end I went with the clinic who not only did all the preliminary tests to remove the risk (and they have a success rate of 98%), offered the guarantee but who also did some serious quizzing about my lifestyle and demanded my GP, that they could request files, that I would be OK with them sending the GP the files of the bloodwork they did. I think I spent about 3 hours just discussing cosmetics, the shape, the colour, I wanted nice but natural looking, not the blinding whiter than white "give me sunglasses" look that just screams "dental work". Oddly enough while they weren't the cheapest, they were also not the most expensive ones, they offered a room where you can rest after the surgery (I was high as a kite), they did all the follow ups, since they knew I am gluten intolerant, they stressed how important it is that I keep the GF diet up and supplement with vitamin D, they even went "Your thyroid results are unusual" so I said "I am on an NDT, as I can't metabolize synthetic levo, that is why the results might be a bit odd but for the medication I am on, it is actually normal" so they were OK with that once they researched the issue. For me the idea of dentures just freaked me out, I didn't feel old enough for them, it was the ideal solution.

Would I want to do it again? Hell no, it was traumatic as hell, you are awake when they pull your teeth and drill into your jaw, the healing pain is awful, but I am really glad I did it and would do it again.

Anybody who considers implants, research the procedure, research the clinic, it's a bit like if you would get a face lift of a boob job (haven't had one of those but I would also be super careful), you want to be sure that you get the best Dr and the best results, it's your mouth, your smile, your teeth, and yep, a lot of your money. The nearest and most convenient option might not be the best (mine was several hours away and there were several trips involved).

PS: Yes timing is also important, if you are missing a tooth or teeth, the jaw bone will shrink, somehow the implant acts like an anchor, however there are different implants, apparently the best ones are the ones where they bit in the bone is titanium, as that then bonds, whereas the bit that is under the gums should be gold.
 
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My sister's experience with her implant is more in line with Limom's. The dentist didn't check her bloodwork like Gabs007's dentist did and considering Vitamin D deficiency runs in our family that could have been a risk. Her implant is smaller than the other molars in her teeth and the shape looks fake. I also don't think there is a coating over the metal/screw. I'll have to ask. I know a decent chunk of her tooth was broken off but I don't know if it was enough to warrant an implant.

Like some other posters my sister and I thought an implant was the cream of the crop in regards to broken/damaged teeth but it looks like it depends on the situation and the dentist. Implants are SO expensive and quite invasive that you want the best of the best.

Regarding my husband's tooth, it's been filled and re-filled so many times that I think it's more filling than tooth. It's a ticking time bomb. For the past couple years it's been ok but it will often hurt while eating, 2 years ago he ate popcorn and a chunk of tooth broke off (no more popcorn for him), and a dentist will sometimes need to add to the filling (I think the original cavity wasn't fully filled and maybe some shoddy dentistry). Because of this I don't know if he'd be able to get a cap and we can't afford an implant right now. He's fine with getting it pulled and that's that but I wonder about the bone loss in his jaw because a tooth is no longer there.
I went to a top dentist and was wooed by my vanity. She said that it was the superior option to maintain my jaw in the future blah, blah blah. Yet, here I am.
I don’t smoke and I am in excellent health.
The only solution is for me to go to an oral surgeon and get a graft. It is not guaranteed to last. And of course is more of an expense...
In your husband‘s case if it hurts, I would be cautious as infections are a *****. I cant even imagine during Corona times.
Best of luck to your husband and kids do not eat sugar!
 
Gabs007 you've had quite the ordeal. Thank you for all the information. My sister didn't receive half the care you did. Her implant is ugly. It's too small, oddly shaped, but at least it matches the color of her other teeth. She's going to ask if her dentist can do anything to help the appearance of it but she won't be going to them again for anything other than annual checkups. I think she needs a new dentist altogether.

Limom, thank you for your input and you've had your fare share of nonsense too and seem to have had a similar situation to my sister. Her dentist made it sound like an implant was the only option while mine talked me through all the options but felt an implant was much too drastic at this time. It should be noted that my sister and I broke the same tooth but her break was a bit bigger and we are in VERY different economic brackets, her being in a much higher one. I realize that infection is super important when considering what option to choose. After consulting with my dentist and several people with caps I chose the cap route with the knowledge that I need to take excellent care of my teeth and that I could eventually need an implant if things go bad.

I really feel like my husband will need an implant because the original filling didn't get the full cavity and they've had to go in twice in 9 years to fill it more. Then a chunk of it broke off. I feel like this pattern will continue. My husband HATES the dentist and we're in different countries right now (in the process of getting him a visa to live with me) and I doubt I'll get him to go especially during Covid. I don't really think I want him getting an implant without me there to research and ask questions. Thankfully in the recent several years, he's really stepped up his game in regards to oral hygiene so he hasn't had much problems with his teeth/tooth except for some pain. But I feel like it's just a matter of time before that tooth acts up again.
 
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@MCF For me it was the only option, otherwise it would have been dentures, when the roots of the teeth are broken, you can't cap or crown, you are basically sitting on a time bomb and an abscess that near the brain.... But thinking back, I think I wish I would have done them much much earlier,
Also, if you need the full jaw option, it might be worth going to Germany, the dental work is spectacular, top notch, and a fraction of the price of the US. I had mine done in the UK and what I paid for the upper and lower jaw, I might have gotten not a quarter of the work done in the US. Also if you need to replace caps frequently, you soon have the costs for an implant... I think you need to take allt he factors into consideration.

I would avoid a dentist who is trying to push you into one option without mentioning the pros and cons of all the options, I would rather trust a dentist who recommends a clinic than one who is trying to do it himself, it is super specialized work, you want somebody who does nothing else, and if they do not check for underlying health issues, they are just interested in quick cash, and financing the lifestyle of a dentist is not an hobby I consider worth having.
 
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I had implants done 2 and half years ago and I could not be happier, I had caps before, you need to replace them every 15 years or so (sometimes they last 20) and I honestly wasn't happy with them, then was attacked and the guy broke my jaw and cheekbone, the crack in the jaw damaged the roots, so I got horrendous root infections and after deliberating for a while, decided to go for implants. They gave me a really big blood test to check if my bone structure is sound, a lot of questions about lifestyle, smoking (they will not do it if you are diabetic, a smoker, or more than a moderate drinker, also your thyroid has to be regulated, Vitamin D levels OK, etc.), their usual thing is that you have had to have quit smoking at least 6 months ago, since for me it's 8 years plus, it wasn't an issue. The procedure is incredibly painful (had the whole jaw done) and you will stay inside for 2 weeks or you scare children and small dogs, then for ages only softish food. I had the issue with the covering of one screw coming off, since you are going to have them cleaned once a year, it then gets replaced anyway and your dentist can always put another filling over it. It's the 1st 6 months after you get the implants that you have do be really careful, I do the regular check up every 6 months, so in case there might be anything, they can act straight away, but so far, great. I am using the water pick religiously, they honestly look fantastic, so far really no issue (knock on wood) and they guarantee you the first 5 years, if anything fails, they replace it, unless of course you started smoking, stopped taking thyroid meds despite your Dr recommending them, etc.

They are not the easy solution, they aren't cheap, but honestly, I wouldn't want to miss them, ever!

Oh to add, my aunt got some, she has a lot of problems, but she went to a local dentist, didn't research and oddly enough her dentist just went "Oh don't smoke on the day we put them in" - so she kept happily puffing away. I think a lot of it depends on your health, your bone structure, how seriously you research and follow the recommendations of a good dentist (I went to a dental clinic that specializes in implants, they do nothing else).
Which dental clinic and name of dentist did you go?
Could you share what was the cost?
Thank you
 
Which dental clinic and name of dentist did you go?
Could you share what was the cost?
Thank you

It was roughly 20K (GBP) and I went to a dental clinic in Liverpool, quite a trek from where I am, but they were quite open about what they do and don't do and as I said, extremely thorough when it comes to the medical checkup, their admin however is a total PITA, but the technicians and dentists are great, and I rather deal with a bit of admin nightmare than a dental nightmare. If you are in the UK, it is EVO dental, they have a clinic in London and one in Liverpool and the dentists aren't just dentists but also medically qualified (which is not always a given in the UK).

Btw they will only do one patient per day and it is always the same team, a friend of mine had his done today and he went totally under, says he remembers nothing and so far no swelling, he's a bit older and had a few teeth missing, but he seems quite happy and chirpy, I was more like heading for the ice pack and not getting out of bed for 3 days and just mumbling because I was quite badly swollen.
 
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It was roughly 20K (GBP) and I went to a dental clinic in Liverpool, quite a trek from where I am, but they were quite open about what they do and don't do and as I said, extremely thorough when it comes to the medical checkup, their admin however is a total PITA, but the technicians and dentists are great, and I rather deal with a bit of admin nightmare than a dental nightmare. If you are in the UK, it is EVO dental, they have a clinic in London and one in Liverpool and the dentists aren't just dentists but also medically qualified (which is not always a given in the UK).

Btw they will only do one patient per day and it is always the same team, a friend of mine had his done today and he went totally under, says he remembers nothing and so far no swelling, he's a bit older and had a few teeth missing, but he seems quite happy and chirpy, I was more like heading for the ice pack and not getting out of bed for 3 days and just mumbling because I was quite badly swollen.
Much appreciated for detailing!!
I am in the US. Two of us are need teeth implants. Which should be best to do?
 
Much appreciated for detailing!!
I am in the US. Two of us are need teeth implants. Which should be best to do?

As I said, US prices seem to be off the scale, quality varies, the estimate I had in the US was 100K plus, I would recommend going abroad if it wasn't Covid times, if you can hang on, feature travel and hotel bills or short term rent in, I would look at other countries, I believe in Europe the UK is not leading, Germany has super high dental standards and very regulated but expensive but cheaper than the UK, Spain is quite famous for it too but maybe you need a bit more research, also some former Eastern Block countries are doing amazing work for a fraction of the price, but you will need to do research (it won't be cheap cheap but a few K difference but I would really ask a lot of questions), mind you, I have friends in California who went to Mexico and paid a fraction of the US prices and had brilliant work done, again, they did the ground work and research. When it first came up in the US, I was quoted over 100K which was a bit shocking and without any guarantees, I am used to high dental prices here as the routine deep cleaning and scrape and polish was in the hundreds while in the UK (where dental work is more expensive but not better than in the rest of Europe) it was 90 GBP
 
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