Blocked from shopping online at Nordstromrack.com and Hautelook.com

TPF may earn a commission from merchant affiliate
links, including eBay, Amazon, and others

I can totally see how someone can have a high return rate from online purchases. I’ve been a Nordstrom customer for eons; the max limit on my credit card with them terrifies me, it’s so high. I’ve been dieting for health reasons. I’ve lost weight. I needed new denim. My go to is the Topshop Jamie jean. A few months ago they had a sale on Jamie jeans, which are a high waist ankle grazer. I bought 5 pairs of 30W 30L Jamie jeans, all denim, figured surely, they will all fit and I will be done needing to buy jeans. Nope. The five pairs showed up. I pulled them all out and tried them all on. One fit perfectly, like the other pair in my closet at the time. Two other pairs were too small. One of the too small pairs was so small I could not get it over my hips. The other two pairs were huge. I could stick my entire fist in the waist of the jeans. I looked at the tags. Same fabric blend, all five pairs. All various shades of blue denim. All high rise. All the size I had bought. Lined them up on the bed to see if there was a difference in length between the different kinds. There was. I had to return 4 pairs of denim. That’s an 80% return rate for one purchase. All because Topshop can’t figure out how to consistently size jeans.


Went through the same thing last week at an actual Nordstrom store with the Topshop Sidney jean (mid rise ankle grazer). One pair was huge. The other so small I had to suck my stomach in to zip them up. At this same store I tried on the Good American brand good legs jean in three different washes. I was a size 6 in two pairs and a size 10 in another pair.


As for Nordstrom Rack I just ordered some stuff from them. All of it was Free People. I love Free People, but their sizing is all over the place. Nordstrom Rack claimed on their website that two of the blouses I ordered (same blouse, two sizes, this is Free People and who knows what size I am in this particular blouse) was embroidered. The blouses I received were both beaded. Heavily beaded. Two other blouses were made of thin, cheap jersey fabric that I have never seen before in Free People clothing. I bought two different kinds of boxy, frilly blouses in this order. One of them the small was too tight. In the other the medium was too huge. I’m keeping a small in one and a medium in the other. In total I bought 8 items. I’m keeping 2 of them. Two of the items I’m returning the quality just isn’t there and two others the item was misrepresented by Nordstrom Rack on their site.


And while there is a size guide on internet sites its the same worthless one that is in old school catalogues that no brand has used in eons. It is not accurate at all. And on most sites there are no measurements of the garment, so it is hard to tell how it will fit.


I think it is harsh to penalize customers for a high rate of returns for online purchases. The sizing is inconsistent across brands and even within brands. I’ve just named three brands sold by Nordstrom and NR that have inconsistent sizing across their own lines. I don’t see a 95% return rate as excessive at all for online shopping given the sizing inconsistencies, poor and inaccurate product descriptions, and poor quality that isn’t obvious until the item arrives.


Are there people who abuse the return policy? Sure. I used to see it all the time when I worked at Macy’s.
 
This topic reminded me of this story:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...D-shirt-sends-manager-hilarious-meltdown.html
(If they only waited 3 more years it would be vintage and they could sell it for double on eBay! :)
Seriously, returning 95% of what you buy?! This is mind blowing for me... This would never fly in Europe. And who has the time for this?! I live off on-line sales, if people returned 95%, I would die of hunger. Returns are even starting to get tricky on Amazon, third-party sellers can slap you with up to 50% restocking fee.
I'm happy to pay custom charges for about a third of the things I order internationally, so I research and do my homework before I buy. If it doesn't fit, I gift it or resell it. It's a nightmare to try and get your customs fee back after you prove you have indeed returned the thing.
If you have the possibility to visit the physical store and see in 3D HD the things and try them on, why would you order online, only to return 95% and waste everybody's time...
I understand returning some clothes and shoes but what I find truly amazing is when I hear about people constantly returning used and abused make up and cosmetics that they can try in the store, get a sample of and/or even read some reviews online. Returns for BS reasons like: "it's not my colour", "it didn't work for me", "my husband/sister/mother-in-law/dog doesn't like it on me"
How can they look the SAs with a straight face, I don't know! They have no choice but to throw away perfectly good products, and make no mistake, the rest of us all end up paying for them...
 
Seriously, returning 95% of what you buy?! This is mind blowing for me... This would never fly in Europe.
If you have the possibility to visit the physical store and see in 3D HD the things and try them on, why would you order online, only to return 95% and waste everybody's time...

Love our European TPFers, but I think many don't understand what type of store Nordstrom Rack is. It's a discount store, most of the stock varies by store and online, lots of one-offs etc. It's not a normal dept store or designer branded chain store. As you can see from many prior commenters, those who tend to shop online can't find their size in the store and try things on, hence the problem.
 
Oh dear I better watch out! I have been doing a lot of returns at Nordstromrack.com, Bloomingdales, AND Revolve. I have been invited to a lot of weddings and special occassions this year. There is nothing more dreadful than trying to find the perfect dress in stores. I find shopping online to be so much better and has a much bigger selection. I like Nordstromrack and Bloomingdales because I can return my online purchases in stores. I've always been honest, and return things I don't like/fit right away.

I stopped shopping at Saks.com because I was concerned about their policy. Even though it is easy to return in stores, I know they are strict and keep track of customers (read this years ago here on Purseforum).

Anyone else get the warning? Did people that get the warning have a card with Nordstrom? I have a Nordstrom Visa doubt they would threaten me?
 
Oh dear I better watch out! I have been doing a lot of returns at Nordstromrack.com, Bloomingdales, AND Revolve. I have been invited to a lot of weddings and special occassions this year. There is nothing more dreadful than trying to find the perfect dress in stores. I find shopping online to be so much better and has a much bigger selection. I like Nordstromrack and Bloomingdales because I can return my online purchases in stores. I've always been honest, and return things I don't like/fit right away.

I stopped shopping at Saks.com because I was concerned about their policy. Even though it is easy to return in stores, I know they are strict and keep track of customers (read this years ago here on Purseforum).

Anyone else get the warning? Did people that get the warning have a card with Nordstrom? I have a Nordstrom Visa doubt they would threaten me?

I'm a level 3 Nordstrom Visa member and still got the warning.
 
NR and Nordstrom are separate, so having a Nordstrom card won't help you.
Well NR purchases do count for rewards on your Nordstrom Visa. But clearly they are not looking at larger factors such as whether you might be pissed at the parent nordstrom company, and are narrowly looking at your NR/HL online purchases and returns for this purpose.
 
OK I have a different perspective. Holding out a policy on returns--setting a window, offering free return shipping--these huge corporate stores SET the policy. Why ban someone for using it? I don't understand that, and I disagree that they are losing that much money. In the big picture, it doesn't cost them much.
I already don't shop much at nordstrom, and I'm getting sick of NM. I have gravitated toward Saks, which doesn't have a free return policy ... it makes my shopping more contemplative.
 
  • Like
Reactions: lulilu
OK I have a different perspective. Holding out a policy on returns--setting a window, offering free return shipping--these huge corporate stores SET the policy. Why ban someone for using it? I don't understand that, and I disagree that they are losing that much money. In the big picture, it doesn't cost them much.
I already don't shop much at nordstrom, and I'm getting sick of NM. I have gravitated toward Saks, which doesn't have a free return policy ... it makes my shopping more contemplative.
Yes, it does seem to be mixed messages, doesn't it.
Actually... thinking more abt it, the real problem is lack of communication. One msg is missing. They've omitted the ratio formula for accepted returns vs purchases. Currently, it's up to their discretion. And as long as only they know those damning parameters, they remain in control and customers remain afraid to return. JMO
 
OK I have a different perspective. Holding out a policy on returns--setting a window, offering free return shipping--these huge corporate stores SET the policy. Why ban someone for using it? I don't understand that, and I disagree that they are losing that much money. In the big picture, it doesn't cost them much.
I already don't shop much at nordstrom, and I'm getting sick of NM. I have gravitated toward Saks, which doesn't have a free return policy ... it makes my shopping more contemplative.
Notice the final sales now on some saks.com sale items? Definitely makes me really think before purchasing.
 
  • Like
Reactions: lulilu
Yes, it does seem to be mixed messages, doesn't it.
Actually... thinking more abt it, the real problem is lack of communication. One msg is missing. They've omitted the ratio formula for accepted returns vs purchases. Currently, it's up to their discretion. And as long as only they know those damning parameters, they remain in control and customers remain afraid to return. JMO
I know they can see your return ratio number internally- but they don't show it to us.
I returned a high $$ item after Anniversary sale. It seemed like they were going to give me a hard time about it, until they asked for my cell# and looked up my account. After that, it was no questions asked.
They should at least make this value available to us. And tell us what the calculation time window is, does it reset every year, etc?
 
Im sure they feel alarmed when all you do is return and rarely keep. I do return things often. I am very picky. But, I also do have moments where I buy something and keep it. I think Nordstrom def monitors their customers closely to make a profile of them.

I think also if you return a lot of premier designer things they get alarmed.
 
See, for those of us with hard to find sizes or similar issues, online shopping began as a blessing. I wasn’t finding things in-store—especially in 1 state where I live part time. They’re also behind of what’s current so the selection is awful. So no, I don’t buy in-store from Nordstrom often.

I do buy online, especially during sales. I usually have specific things I look for, but not having seen them in person, the last time I ended up returning a backpack I’d wanted for months. It just didn’t look good on me.

Then I got a dress as a gift. I didn’t have the receipt, but it still had the Nordstrom tag so I took it back. A gift card was fine with me. The girl doing the return on that goes, ‘I don’t assume you’d like it to go back on the gifter’s account, would you?’ Um. No? Why would I? It wasn’t my style, I wasn’t going to wear it, so why would I not just take a gift card & use it on things—even over a period of time—that I need or want?!

It was strange & I felt totally uncomfortable. It feels like you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

I will say, I was banned from Kindle returns after using them as a library. I totally knew I deserved it 100%. I read insanely fast & so I’d read a book in 2-3 hours & return for another one. I was living on a limited income at the time & it was the wrong thing to do, but there you go. I’m admitting it. This was back in like 2015. I’ve not returned/tried to return since so I don’t know if there’s a time limit or anything.
 
Top