Beyoncé & Jay Z

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Ladybug09 said:
All of this. We have red hair on my Dad's side.








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all of this!





The law was called the Tignon law, passed in 1786. Several complaints were with the exotic hairstyles the black women wore that attracted more attention than the white woman. Another complaint was that very fair skinned women of African descent were being mistaken for white women, and white men would flirt and marry them. It ended up backfiring on the white women though, because the bright colored head wraps were often adorned and drew even more attention to these beautiful black woman.
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Correct. In the Caribbean and some parts of Latin America, Creole means a person of European descent born in the New World or, any of their mixed race descendants. The tracing of black blood only became important when it came to the inheritance of land and property. Until that point free mulattos etc and freed African were able to own land and other property and there was intermarriage with whites. When the fear began spreading of slaves and their descendants having too much power by virtue of land and intermixing, the drop of blood rule was born and exists to this day in the administrative practices of many states. That is why I am wary of some attempts to categorise race because of the sinister history such activity comes from.
 
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Thingofbeauty said:
Should also work with regard to black ancestry or any other but clearly it doesn't and I don't understand why.

I can't believe where this conversation has gone. All I will add is you can't tell race by how someone looks and in this day and age I can't believe this still needs to be said.

I also don't recall reading or hearing Beyonce claim she was a natural blonde, the way say Sofia Vergara claims and nobody is trying to hang her for. We've seen her with different colours and the blonde - WHEN IT IS DONE PROPERLY - does look good on her.

Is it boring at this point? Certainly. But jeez, in as much as we're critiquing her let's be fair.
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I have a hard time telling if people are part black.
And it does go the other way. Remember for the longest time people side eyed Mariah Carey. And Christian Louboutin also.
 
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Thingofbeauty said:
Should also work with regard to black ancestry or any other but clearly it doesn't and I don't understand why.

I can't believe where this conversation has gone. All I will add is you can't tell race by how someone looks and in this day and age I can't believe this still needs to be said.

I also don't recall reading or hearing Beyonce claim she was a natural blonde, the way say Sofia Vergara claims and nobody is trying to hang her for. We've seen her with different colours and the blonde - WHEN IT IS DONE PROPERLY - does look good on her.

Is it boring at this point? Certainly. But jeez, in as much as we're critiquing her let's be fair.
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Superficially, Beyonce doesn't look to be of mixed heritage, imo. I have never once thought she might be mixed. But you are correct in saying you can't always tell mixed race by sight, but a lot of times you can.
 
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Tivo said:
Superficially, Beyonce doesn't look to be of mixed heritage, imo. I have never once thought she might be mixed. But you are correct in saying you can't always tell mixed race by sight, but a lot of times you can.
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I haven't travelled extensively in Africa so I'm not holding myself out as an expert in any way.

But I have been to a few countries and I've observed two things:

1. What we in the West consider black is actually mixed.
2. There is no such thing as "black" features.

None of this changes the fact that we'd all love to see B in a new hairstyle though!
 
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Thingofbeauty said:
I haven't travelled extensively in Africa so I'm not holding myself out as an expert in any way.

But I have been to a few countries and I've observed two things:

1. What we in the West consider black is actually mixed.
2. There is no such thing as "black" features.

None of this changes the fact that we'd all love to see B in a new hairstyle though!
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Maybe we should all chip in and buy her a dark brown pageant queen wig
 
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Thingofbeauty said:
Should also work with regard to black ancestry or any other but clearly it doesn't and I don't understand why.

I can't believe where this conversation has gone. All I will add is you can't tell race by how someone looks and in this day and age I can't believe this still needs to be said.

I also don't recall reading or hearing Beyonce claim she was a natural blonde, the way say Sofia Vergara claims and nobody is trying to hang her for. We've seen her with different colours and the blonde - WHEN IT IS DONE PROPERLY - does look good on her.

Is it boring at this point? Certainly. But jeez, in as much as we're critiquing her let's be fair.
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I don't know that she's ever said but someone did. I wish I could remember who it was.... it was one of those E! True Hollywood Stories or Behind the Music.... something like that. And someone was describing how when she was a kid girls were jealous of her for having blonde hair and light eyes. I want to say it was her mom, but something tells me it was like a cousin or an auntie. I can't recall...but I definitely remember cause I was like HUH?
 
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knasarae said:
I don't know that she's ever said but someone did. I wish I could remember who it was.... it was one of those E! True Hollywood Stories or Behind the Music.... something like that. And someone was describing how when she was a kid girls were jealous of her for having blonde hair and light eyes. I want to say it was her mom, but something tells me it was like a cousin or an auntie. I can't recall...but I definitely remember cause I was like HUH?
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Solange. She claimed Bey was bullied for her "sandy blonde" hair & light skin. The show was called VH1 Driven.
 
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Not to stir controversy but because it's interesting convo, do we see this as different from the current trend amongst white singers of darkening skin, creating features not typical of your race etc. I know the argument is typically that the fact that they come from the dominant race means there's no comparison but in the field of rap for example, isn't that dominated by blacks?
 
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