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It would be helpful to see the markings very clearly to be sure but I don't see any issues with this necklace as is.
Dear Sadiesthegirl, here are more images to help with authentication. Do you happen to know how this design is called? Thank you in advance.
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Looks authentic to me. The way this piece is signed puts it sometime in the mid 1970's to low 1980's.

I just got a call from tiffany at ala moana....the pendant was not a tiffany & co item! It did not fit on any chains I had (the opening at the back was too small), I had a broken chain and asked if they could put it onto it and put another jump ring. They sent it to New York to be serviced. Just got a call that it was ready for pickup, but there was a note on there that it wasn't a tiffany recognized item:( man, this sucks as I have to pay $20 for servicing (adding jump ring to chain), and now the pendant is stuck on the chain!!!! Not sure what to do:/
 
I just got a call from tiffany at ala moana....the pendant was not a tiffany & co item! It did not fit on any chains I had (the opening at the back was too small), I had a broken chain and asked if they could put it onto it and put another jump ring. They sent it to New York to be serviced. Just got a call that it was ready for pickup, but there was a note on there that it wasn't a tiffany recognized item:( man, this sucks as I have to pay $20 for servicing (adding jump ring to chain), and now the pendant is stuck on the chain!!!! Not sure what to do:/

I'm shocked that they added a non-Tiffany item to a Tiffany chain during servicing. Tiffany have always called me at every step of servicing to confirm that I'm alright with what's happening. You could try to complain that you weren't made aware of the situation at a time when it could have been remedied, but I think the best case scenario is that they give you back a broken chain, a counterfeit pendant, and still charge for labour. What a shame.
 
I'm shocked that they added a non-Tiffany item to a Tiffany chain during servicing. Tiffany have always called me at every step of servicing to confirm that I'm alright with what's happening. You could try to complain that you weren't made aware of the situation at a time when it could have been remedied, but I think the best case scenario is that they give you back a broken chain, a counterfeit pendant, and still charge for labour. What a shame.

I'm surprised too....cause yes, in the past, they have called me before servicing. But I was given a quote of $20 to fix the jump ring beforehand. I also did request to have the pendant (which I assumed to be authentic), added to the chain. The seller is really defensive:
have been an licensed estate liquidator for many years and make my living researching and validating hallmarks. I hope by my feedback you can see that I do not sell fake items. I was hired by the family of the deceased, Mrs. Gloria Davis to liquidate her estate and that pendant was purchased by Mrs. Davis long before fake Tiffany jewelry was even an issue. Even with all that information I still spent time to view the mark under a microscope and research it's origins to be 100% certain. I am confident the item is authentic, there were only a handful of companies that place that clear of diamonds in a sterling piece and none of their marks are close to that rare Tiffany mark. I would be more than happy to refund your money, simply return the item to me. I hope you will consider all the evidence at hand, I am sorry you were told that and understand the concern but that pendant was made 40-45 years ago. I am sorry you are so disappointed with your purchase.

I will call this store in the morning, I would not risk my families bread and butter over a pendant. I have never intentionally deceived anyone in my life. I will call this flagship store and you are correct, they should know. To be certain, this is the Tiffany retailer in New York? I will start with the store you first took it to. I am 100% certain it's Tiffany or I would have never listed it. I believe in good customer service so regardless of what I believe I am offering a full refund even though it has been altered according to your message, I do not know what else to say until I speak with them personally.

Thank you, please have just a little faith that I know what I'm talking about. I know they should know. Life is not always simple and vintage designer jewelry identification sure isn't. If I am wrong I will make it right, just for future reference (in case you buy from a dishonest seller who doesn't believe in old fashioned customer service) once an item is altered in any way the seller is not obligated to refund. My wife bought a fake $280 ring as because I acid tested it and said so in my message we lost every penny of that $280 to a fake gold plated ring. I will be in touch as soon as I speak with someone, I'm sure I will need to email photos of the pendant and educate them regarding that obscure mark. I'm not surprised, big designer companies do not like second hand transactions, they save the customer too much money but that's just my opinion. Have a good evening, Trey S.



To be honest, this pendant had already taken up a lot of my time, I'm going to lose either way and thats ok, my wife needs to go work her RN shift and my day starts in 4 hours, its 1 in the morning here. My wife likes it regardless, I have a return policy and will honor it. I believe it's real but what does research and hallmarks mean in today's world? If they said they don't recognize it then so be it. It's marked with a Tiffany hallmark, it's sterling, the diamond is super and I have providence from the estate, what more could I have done? This could have happened to anyone but I have learned a valuable lesson about designer jewelry. If you feel like I have not been a good seller I am sorry, my best is all I am capable of. God bless and I apologize for your trouble.


Seller still claiming its "authentic tiffany", even though the flagship New York store said it was not.....lol
 
And yes, I want to get my money back for that pendant...so I've been mulling this over and want them to cut that jump ring so I can return it. I told the seller he is lucky because they buffed the pendant and it looks new now....as you see, he responded with the fact that it had been "altered" and hes not obligated to take it back lol.
 
I just got a call from tiffany at ala moana....the pendant was not a tiffany & co item! It did not fit on any chains I had (the opening at the back was too small), I had a broken chain and asked if they could put it onto it and put another jump ring. They sent it to New York to be serviced. Just got a call that it was ready for pickup, but there was a note on there that it wasn't a tiffany recognized item:( man, this sucks as I have to pay $20 for servicing (adding jump ring to chain), and now the pendant is stuck on the chain!!!! Not sure what to do:/

Its very strange that it came back unauthentic. The ‘T’ signature on this piece is a very old way of marking a handful of silver items. It was used 30 years + ago. I don’t think I have ever seen a fake with this marking. Its vintage and was used long before counterfeits were an issue like they are today. I don’t know if this piece was modified, maybe it was a pin made into a pendant or maybe a non-Tiffany jeweler placed a loop on the back and it threw off the rep at Tiffany who looked at it. I am not sure what to say on that. But to me, the marking looks real and the way it looks, to me anyway, seems consistent with a vintage item.
 
Its very strange that it came back unauthentic. The ‘T’ signature on this piece is a very old way of marking a handful of silver items. It was used 30 years + ago. I don’t think I have ever seen a fake with this marking. Its vintage and was used long before counterfeits were an issue like they are today. I don’t know if this piece was modified, maybe it was a pin made into a pendant or maybe a non-Tiffany jeweler placed a loop on the back and it threw off the rep at Tiffany who looked at it. I am not sure what to say on that. But to me, the marking looks real and the way it looks, to me anyway, seems consistent with a vintage item.

It was sent to New York for servicing....I just don't see how they couldn't identify their own piece?! If it is in fact real....
 
And yes, I want to get my money back for that pendant...so I've been mulling this over and want them to cut that jump ring so I can return it. I told the seller he is lucky because they buffed the pendant and it looks new now....as you see, he responded with the fact that it had been "altered" and hes not obligated to take it back lol.

Wait, so Tiffany buffed the piece, and added it onto an authentic chain, but then said it's inauthentic? This sounds EXTREMELY strange to me. I know for certain that Tiffany & Co. doesn't clean/buff any jewellery that's not their own. Before having them cut up the necklace again, and putting the seller through more issues, I would get a contact in the NY office and talk to them about it. It sounds like the piece was authentic but modified...the possibility that someone added the loop afterwards, or that it's so old (30 years-ish) fits with the story that you couldn't get a modern Tiffany chain with tags through the loop. The fact that the diamond is real, the silver is real, the seller is so adamant, that sadie has identified the older stamp, and that this came from a time before counterfeiting was such an issue, all seems to point to one inexperienced serviceperson in NY, or a simple mistake in communication.
 
Wait, so Tiffany buffed the piece, and added it onto an authentic chain, but then said it's inauthentic? This sounds EXTREMELY strange to me. I know for certain that Tiffany & Co. doesn't clean/buff any jewellery that's not their own. Before having them cut up the necklace again, and putting the seller through more issues, I would get a contact in the NY office and talk to them about it. It sounds like the piece was authentic but modified...the possibility that someone added the loop afterwards, or that it's so old (30 years-ish) fits with the story that you couldn't get a modern Tiffany chain with tags through the loop. The fact that the diamond is real, the silver is real, the seller is so adamant, that sadie has identified the older stamp, and that this came from a time before counterfeiting was such an issue, all seems to point to one inexperienced serviceperson in NY, or a simple mistake in communication.

I called ala moana and New York several times today. Ala moana is going to call New York and try to figure this out. It was a handwritten note by a technician, not signed or anything.
 
I called ala moana and New York several times today. Ala moana is going to call New York and try to figure this out. It was a handwritten note by a technician, not signed or anything.

Its hard to say what the issue was…..seeing something in person doesn’t compare to seeing the jewelry in hand but I do feel like this is authentic. Its very unusual, almost unheard of, for Tiffany to do some sort of service the piece however, then send it back it you. As a general rule, Tiffany won’t do anything, clean it or service it, if its not authentic.

It doesn’t happen often but sometimes vintage pieces can be challenging when they are sent for service, especially if they have been modified. I ran into this myself two years ago. I had a very old, 1970’s bracelet that I sent to New York for service. Ten years ago however, I had several of the jump rings replaced by a non Tiffany jeweler. The piece also had an ’accident’ and the area that had the hallmark signature was damaged. It was melted back into place but in doing so, it slightly distorted the markings. The bracelet sat in the New York service center 3 weeks before I got a call from a customer service rep telling me there was an issue with the authenticity. I asked for a manager explaining the issue and asked for a second opinion, preferably from a rep with experience in vintage jewelry. A week later, it was repaired without issue and sent back to me.

I agree that the techs should know and recognize Tiffany jewelry but I guess it all depends on the experience and knowledge of the tech who gets the piece to work on. If the pendant you have tests for true silver and has a real diamond then that leans towards an authentic piece. When the tech gets an older piece like this and they don‘t know its history, they need to go back into the achieves to verify that it is a Tiffany design. Since this item you have appears to have a loop on the back, maybe they were looking for a pendant. If this item was originally a brooch or pin (and I think it was. The ’T’ signature on this piece was used mainly in gentlemen’s jewelry) and they can’t match it to an original Tiffany item, that could raise a flag. If you want to pursue the issue with Tiffany, I think its an issue worth pursuing with them.
 
Can someone authenticate this Tiffany Venetian Necklace? I am concerned because the tag is missing the copyright. Also the clasp looks a little off. I can take it to Tiffany tomorrow. Does anyone know if they can authenticate immediately? I took a risk buying this from Poshmark and only have 3 days to dispute. Thanks so much!!


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Photo's are a little blurry but I don't see any issues with it. Some of the older round tags do not have the copyright symbol. From what I can see, all looks okay.
 
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