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View attachment 4230168 Here’s a photo for show and tell. One vintage brass hangtag, one supposed to be vintage but is a copy, being returned to the seller. The fake has a slightly rounded back, less distinct lettering, is slightly smaller, has a less pronounced eye, and the color is slightly off.
Fobs are tricky unless one does side-by-side comparisons as you've done.

On the fake, notice that the spacing between characters and words runs together.
 
I need your help with a color mystery. This cavalry bag is brighter than palomino and the bag appears to be pre tag, assuming it’s genuine, which it seems to be. There is a faint red stamp inside in the area where others have the tag. Also, based on my limited research, cavalry bags with post rivets lacking the little collar around them seem to be earlier. ??? This one has that style rivets, and they are slightly shorter than the other ones on my other bags.
 

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I need your help with a color mystery. This cavalry bag is brighter than palomino and the bag appears to be pre tag, assuming it’s genuine, which it seems to be. There is a faint red stamp inside in the area where others have the tag. Also, based on my limited research, cavalry bags with post rivets lacking the little collar around them seem to be earlier. ??? This one has that style rivets, and they are slightly shorter than the other ones on my other bags.
This is the authentication thread so I'll comment that the bag is definitely authentic.

I'm sure it's palomino. I have pictures (of my own items), both palomino but the newer duck bag is definitely brighter than the teton. (And I've also shown the tag showing that the duck bag is palomino.)
Dooney palomino duck bag.png Dooney palomino tag.png Dooney palomino teton.png
 
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I need your help with a color mystery. This cavalry bag is brighter than palomino and the bag appears to be pre tag, assuming it’s genuine, which it seems to be. There is a faint red stamp inside in the area where others have the tag. Also, based on my limited research, cavalry bags with post rivets lacking the little collar around them seem to be earlier. ??? This one has that style rivets, and they are slightly shorter than the other ones on my other bags.
Nice little bag! I agree, it's genuine. The collarless rivets were used on the earlier Cavalrys. The color seems more lemony than any other Dooney yellows I've seen (Old Gold, Yellow, Wheat, and Palomino), so I don't know what it would have been called. Maybe it is Yellow?
 

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Nice little bag! I agree, it's genuine. The collarless rivets were used on the earlier Cavalrys. The color seems more lemony than any other Dooney yellows I've seen (Old Gold, Yellow, Wheat, and Palomino), so I don't know what it would have been called. Maybe it is Yellow?

Thanks so much Catbird9 and BeenBurned. I also posted this inquiry on a FB forum. Janice Greenwell responded with a few photo of items in her collection, one of which had the label on the back with the color code YL. Her bright yellow bags look like mine rather than like the image posted above. The YL example there looks darker and less bright than the palomino example. In fact, it seems to look more like orange/yellow in that image.

I suspect that there was a db style fob with my yellow bag originally. If so, I’d buy one from eBay, but I want to be sure. I’ve noticed that all the cavalry bags with db hang tags have the collarless rivets. That’s how I guessed that indicated those were earlier bags. Some collarless rivet bags have duck hangtags, though, so they must have transitioned to the newer style fob during that era.

There are also differences in the shape and size of the fasteners on the shoulder strap. The bigger my collection grows, the more I find fascinating details to study.
 
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Thanks so much Catbird9 and BeenBurned. I also posted this inquiry on a FB forum. Janice Greenwell responded with a few photo of items in her collection, one of which had the label on the back with the color code YL. Her bright yellow bags look like mine rather than like the image posted above. The YL example there looks darker and less bright than the palomino example. In fact, it seems to look more like orange/yellow in that image.

I suspect that there was a db style fob with my yellow bag originally. If so, I’d buy one from eBay, but I want to be sure. I’ve noticed that all the cavalry bags with db hang tags have the collarless rivets. That’s how I guessed that indicated those were earlier bags. Some collarless rivet bags have duck hangtags, though, so they must have transitioned to the newer style fob during that era.

There are also differences in the shape and size of the fasteners on the shoulder strap. The bigger my collection grows, the more I find fascinating details to study.
I think either the DB fob or the duck fob would be right. It may simply come down to which one you prefer. Personally I'd go with a DB logo fob for a pre-tag bag such as yours.

The colors in that image are not the greatest...poor lighting I guess. These were posted on an old eBay Dooney guide that has since disappeared. I managed to grab the pictures before it went.
 
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Hello, please authenticate this Dooney I recently purchased.
Item: Vintage Dooney & Bourke Multicolor Leather Bucket Shoulder Bag 90's
Listing: 113322547239
Seller: Crisiantjones
I received the bag and there is no Dooney tag inside.
Thank you!
 
Hello, please authenticate this Dooney I recently purchased.
Item: Vintage Dooney & Bourke Multicolor Leather Bucket Shoulder Bag 90's
Listing: 113322547239
Seller: Crisiantjones
I received the bag and there is no Dooney tag inside.
Thank you!
I'm not finding anything with that item number.

These are the completed listings from the seller you named but there's no dooney bag listed.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_so...=1&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684


Post a link to the listing please.
 
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