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Hyacinth said:
By 2003 the Dominican Republic plant was being phased out but the Z code along with the X code were still its exclusive property. The "Bellini" looks fake, not just because of the invalid plant code abut also because of that stamped impression of a solid border that you can see almost all the way around the base of serial number. The formatting of the 2003 DR plant stamp changed several times during that year but never was used by the US as far as I've been able to trace. And AFAIK the Bellini was never made with pearlescent leather. In fact I don't remember ANY Coach bags from the early 2000s in Pearlescent Green.

While there's alsways a chance that the style may have been resurrected for the outlets, the Bellini doesn't seem to have made it into the 2003 lineup. And by that time, if it had been an outlet-only bag it probably should have had a bullseye stamp.

The "elephant skin" leather on the face of the bag is another bad sign, and the Coach stamp on the front is too far away from the top edge. The hangtag isn't right either but that doesn't prove anything unless it exactly matches the bag color, meaning it was made at the same time in the same VERY unusual color. The "cocktail" bags like the Mimosa, Bellini and Martini had mini leather tags and they were NOT the old double-sided style. There are other small details like the strap stitching and placement of the strap buckles that aren't quite right either. I'm adding Coach's photo.

Here are several genuine Z plant stamps from 2003:
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Thanks for the detailed reply Hyacinth.
 
#8,677
Hyacinth said:
I don't understand why the seller uses "faux leather" in the description, unless she's clueless about what "faux" actually means. The bag seems ok to me but more opinions would help. Recent styles aren't my specialty.
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Thanks, Hyacinth! I'm thinking it's okay since an eBay search brings up a lot in a few different colors and they all look the same. I'm also thinking that the seller isn't that experienced with selling bags on eBay since the title just says "Coach tote." All of their other auctions have overly simplistic titles where people who are genuinely interested would never be able to find them.
 
#8,678
thecollector629 said:
I don't know about the hardware color, but I can tell you that I have had and handled numerous patent leather and "pvc" patent leather trimmed bags from Coach (they don't always use genuine leather) and NONE of them peel like that, ever. Worst I've seen is where the corners get scraped off. The handles get worn, but never peeling all over..that is cheap vinyl coverings.
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That's exactly what made me think it was fake. TY!

thecollector629 said:
Do you really think anybody would buy that mess?
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I hope nobody will bid on that awfulness but you NEVER know what people will buy on eBay! :shrugs:

But I will take your comment as the definitive sign I was looking for to give up on reporting it;)
Thanks TC629!

Thank you everyone, sorry to waste so much time!
 
#8,680
seacoast said:
Thank you all for looking (Hyacinth, your expertise and generosity are appreciated as always). I need to do a little happy dance, because this was CHEAP. I don't understand how they set prices at Savers.
There are two rivets joining the strap, here are some extra pictures if that would be helpful.
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Thanks for that, seacoast. It appears that they started using two rivets at a later date. I have a NYC Shoulder Sac and the rivets are right on the seam.Very poor design as one has pulled right through. I'm glad they realised their mistake and added another rivet.

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/id-coach-item-post-any-coach-item-name-355205-605.html
 
#8,681
frenchieRU said:
This one looks okay to me, but confirmation would be good. (I feel like I've seen this in factory stores fairly recently?)
Item: Coach Tote
Item #: 221587531579
Seller: cnjnails
Link: Here
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lovinglynam said:
Someone has this on a fb coach site for sale. Any thoughts on if it is authentic? The patch # is d1193-Z18389 Pics attached. She said it is older and does not have the receipt. I have tried google with no luck.
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Hyacinth said:
I don't understand why the seller uses "faux leather" in the description, unless she's clueless about what "faux" actually means. The bag seems ok to me but more opinions would help. Recent styles aren't my specialty.
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I agree that it looks fine.

JaNan16 said:
Item: Small Coach cross body type purse
I own
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Comments: I know this signature fabric is a favorite for fakes. The quality seems to be there - stitching is good - pattern is mirror image, leather is baby soft and smells good. Fingers crossed! If you guys need any more pictures of anything just let me know. Sorry, my inside purse pictures never turn out very well even on my macro setting.

No creed, I don't know name or time frame - guessing 2005 ish

Measurements: 8" tall x 8" wide x 2 1/2" depth 21" strap drop
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Hyacinth said:
I don't see any problems. More opinions are welcome.
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I agree with Hyacinth.
 
#8,683
Hyacinth said:
The seller doesn't show or mention the fact there there are probably TWO inside sections which would make it a Sheridan Glenwood, style 4225 from 1992 or 1993.

And I wish sellers who copy & paste from the Salearea Guides would at least have the courtesy to acknowledge where the information came from.
http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/salearea?uqt=g

http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Italy-Guide-Coach-Italian-Made-Bags-/10000000051492233/g.html
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Thank you so much Hyacinth!


After I posted I sleuthed a bit more, found your excellent guides, and realized that the seller quoted you in their auction text. How lucky we are to have an authority here. :-)
 
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