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Item: sheridan Monticello
Listing number: not available
Seller: VintageBaublesandBags (aka jude309 on ebay)
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/187728538/vintage-coach-pebbled-taupe-court-bag?ref=shop_home_active_7

Comments: Was interested in this, and I asked the seller for the coach creed but received no reply. However, the more I observed it, the more I feel that this bag is fishy. The colour is weird. And the hardware is different from my monticello that Hyacinth had authenticated. Like the strap clips and turnlock. The bottom of the bag is also different from mine. My monticello's bottom is split into half like this:
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while the one listed looks different.

But I may just be mistaken. The authenticators here have much more experience.
And once again, :ty:

Without any kind of photo of the inside showing the creed or the lining there's NO way I'd consider buying that bag.

Straps with clips can be changed and can't be depended on but the turnlock seems slightly wrong even for a later Monticello, both the turnlock plate and the leather around it. The color seems off too although you can't depend on colors to be reproduced accurately, but that greyish tint is something that I saw in another fake Sheridan that I bought years ago. And there's no reason that a genuine bag would have a different bottom seam.

I'd bet you a bucket of grickles that the creed says it's made in Korea.

Speaking of her JUDE309 ID at ebay, if you search the main Coach forum here at tPF you'll find a TON of posts about this scammer. I would NOT advise buying from either JUDE309 at Ebay or from VintageBaublesAndBag at Etsy under ANY circumstances! She seems to make a habit of hiding or blurring creeds in questionable nags too. Start reading here:

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/id-coach-item-post-any-coach-item-name-355205-537.html#post26213451

BUT WAIT !!! THERE'S MORE !!!
She has ANOTHER fake currently listed on Etsy - a known fake serial number that's in Daria48's Fake Numbers Guide with fake overstamping lines AND THE WORD "SCRTCHES" MISSPELLED:
Authentic Vintage Coach Large Dark Green Leather Flap Patricia's Legacy Shoulder Bag

https://www.etsy.com/shop/VintageBaublesandBag

https://www.etsy.com/listing/187738...coach-large-dark-green?ref=shop_home_active_6

Etsy members, please report if you can. AND DON'T BUY FROM THIS SELLER AT EITHER OF THESE IDs

Thanks Hyacinth. :hugs: your wealth of information about not only Coach but also online scammers is astounding!
Thank god I did not buy it! I will report it.

Edit: reported both fake bags in Etsy. Hope Etsy will do something about it.
I found another questionable (at best) listing on Etsy. This bag has a J4H "too perfect" serial number.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/193258321/vintage-coach-black-leather-equestrian?ref=related-3

This is jude309 aka VintageBaublesAndBag creed:
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And compared to another J4H creed, there are huge differernces.

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ETA: And since we're reporting the fakes on Etsy, here are the same ones on ebay -- for those so inclined to report:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fabulous-Vi...586?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3a923e028a
 
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Sorry, not a lot of info to go on. I don't have this item on hand. Someone at my BF's work is trying to sell this. Please see attached photos. Thank you! :smile1:
 

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Oh no...please tell me the weston bag I bought from her is authentic...

Item: Weston Bag (in my possession)
Item Number: 261479483434
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261479483434?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Seller: jude309

here is an additional photo of the creed

The Westin Shopper you received looks ok.

Even though the serial number of the bag you got matches the one in her photo, it does NOT match the number posted in her listing. She qoutes "X8G-9021" in the bag's description. If she mistakenly used a template from a previous Westin Tote (maybe the one she sold in February?), the bag with that serial number would have been fake, "X8G-" would NEVER have been a valid prefix. So you dodged a bullet but once again it shows how completely untrustworthy she can be as a seller. And if she "borrowed" that listing template and description from another seller, that's just as big a problem.

And the one you got is still four years away from being "vintage". She's also one of the sellers who falsely describes generic Coaches as "Bonnie Cashin" when most of them weren't even made until at least 10 or 15 years after Cashin left Coach, which is false and deceptive advertising.

Once again, a reminder to everyone to NOT buy from JUDE309 at Ebay or VINTAGEBAUBLESANDBAG at Etsy. Seller mixes real with fake and does NOTHING to authenticate what she's selling even after multiple reports and removals by Ebay.
 
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The Westin Shopper you received looks ok.

Even though the serial number of the bag you got matches the one in her photo, it does NOT match the number posted in her listing. She qoutes "X8G-9021" in the bag's description. If she mistakenly used a template from a previous Westin Tote (maybe the one she sold in February?), the bag with that serial number would have been fake, "X8G-" would NEVER have been a valid prefix. So you dodged a bullet but once again it shows how completely untrustworthy she can be as a seller. And if she "borrowed" that listing template and description from another seller, that's just as big a problem.

And the one you got is still four years away from being "vintage". She's also one of the sellers who falsely describes generic Coaches as "Bonnie Cashin" when most of them weren't even made until at least 10 or 15 years after Cashin left Coach, which is false and deceptive advertising.

Once again, a reminder to everyone to NOT buy from JUDE309 at Ebay or VINTAGEBAUBLESANDBAG at Etsy. Seller mixes real with fake and does NOTHING to authenticate what she's selling even after multiple reports and removals by Ebay.
Thank you very much. Warning noted and glad I ended up being lucky.
 
seller gaon_feli
COACH Mini Shopper Leather Purse Bag Cross Body MINT GREEN RARE 9993 90s VTG BAG
item 151331794528
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Mini-...528?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item233c13ee60

The creed looks really puffy. Did Coach even make this bag in mint green?

Thanks.

Not as far as I know. And they sure wouldn't have been making it in 2003. Besides, the S plant code was being used ONLY for China as early as late 1995. Hangtag color doesn't match either, and the seam of the piping around the base is in the wrong place.
 
seller gaon_feli
COACH Mini Shopper Leather Purse Bag Cross Body MINT GREEN RARE 9993 90s VTG BAG
item 151331794528
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Mini-...528?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item233c13ee60

The creed looks really puffy. Did Coach even make this bag in mint green?

Thanks.

Not as far as I know. And they sure wouldn't have been making it in 2003. Besides, the S plant code was being used ONLY for China as early as late 1995. Hangtag color doesn't match either, and the seam of the piping around the base is in the wrong place.
Thanks. It's gone already.

Another thing I noticed is that the handle hole is shaped differently from the other 9993 bags on ebay.
 
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