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Hey all - I have 3 tonight:

Name: saddle bag? (don't know if this is the actual name)
Dimensions (in inches):
- height = 9
- width = 10
- depth = 4
- strap drop = 20 (at longest)

Color appears to be "grey" from the 1986 summer catalog - Never seen it on a bag before!
 

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Name: convertible clutch
Dimensions (in inches):
- height = 7
- width = 11
- depth = 2
- strap drop = 20
 

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Name: slim satchel? (not sure)
Dimensions (in inches):
- height = 13
- width = 7.5
- depth = 2
- strap drop = 3.5

Pretty sure the zipper pull is missing the leather tab on this one too ...
 

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Item: sheridan Monticello
Listing number: not available
Seller: VintageBaublesandBags (aka jude309 on ebay)
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/187728538/vintage-coach-pebbled-taupe-court-bag?ref=shop_home_active_7

Comments: Was interested in this, and I asked the seller for the coach creed but received no reply. However, the more I observed it, the more I feel that this bag is fishy. The colour is weird. And the hardware is different from my monticello that Hyacinth had authenticated. Like the strap clips and turnlock. The bottom of the bag is also different from mine. My monticello's bottom is split into half like this:
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while the one listed looks different.

But I may just be mistaken. The authenticators here have much more experience.
And once again, :ty:
 
Item: sheridan Monticello
Listing number: not available
Seller: VintageBaublesandBags (aka jude309 on ebay)
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/187728538/vintage-coach-pebbled-taupe-court-bag?ref=shop_home_active_7

Comments: Was interested in this, and I asked the seller for the coach creed but received no reply. However, the more I observed it, the more I feel that this bag is fishy. The colour is weird. And the hardware is different from my monticello that Hyacinth had authenticated. Like the strap clips and turnlock. The bottom of the bag is also different from mine. My monticello's bottom is split into half like this:
AFsLO4n.jpg


while the one listed looks different.

But I may just be mistaken. The authenticators here have much more experience.
And once again, :ty:

Without any kind of photo of the inside showing the creed or the lining there's NO way I'd consider buying that bag.

Straps with clips can be changed and can't be depended on but the turnlock seems slightly wrong even for a later Monticello, both the turnlock plate and the leather around it. The color seems off too although you can't depend on colors to be reproduced accurately, but that greyish tint is something that I saw in another fake Sheridan that I bought years ago. And there's no reason that a genuine bag would have a different bottom seam.

I'd bet you a bucket of grickles that the creed says it's made in Korea.

Speaking of her JUDE309 ID at ebay, if you search the main Coach forum here at tPF you'll find a TON of posts about this scammer. I would NOT advise buying from either JUDE309 at Ebay or from VintageBaublesAndBag at Etsy under ANY circumstances! She seems to make a habit of hiding or blurring creeds in questionable nags too. Start reading here:

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/id-coach-item-post-any-coach-item-name-355205-537.html#post26213451

BUT WAIT !!! THERE'S MORE !!!
She has ANOTHER fake currently listed on Etsy - a known fake serial number that's in Daria48's Fake Numbers Guide with fake overstamping lines AND THE WORD "SCRTCHES" MISSPELLED:
Authentic Vintage Coach Large Dark Green Leather Flap Patricia's Legacy Shoulder Bag

https://www.etsy.com/shop/VintageBaublesandBag

https://www.etsy.com/listing/187738...coach-large-dark-green?ref=shop_home_active_6

Etsy members, please report if you can. AND DON'T BUY FROM THIS SELLER AT EITHER OF THESE IDs
 
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Without any kind of photo of the inside showing the creed or the lining there's NO way I'd consider buying that bag.

Straps with clips can be changed and can't be depended on but the turnlock seems slightly wrong even for a later Monticello, both the turnlock plate and the leather around it. The color seems off too although you can't depend on colors to be reproduced accurately, but that greyish tint is something that I saw in another fake Sheridan that I bought years ago. And there's no reason that a genuine bag would have a different bottom seam.

I'd bet you a bucket of grickles that the creed says it's made in Korea.

Speaking of her JUDE309 ID at ebay, if you search the main Coach forum here at tPF you'll find a TON of posts about this scammer. I would NOT advise buying from either JUDE309 at Ebay or from VintageBaublesAndBag at Etsy under ANY circumstances! She seems to make a habit of hiding or blurring creeds in questionable nags too. Start reading here:

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/id-coach-item-post-any-coach-item-name-355205-537.html#post26213451

BUT WAIT !!! THERE'S MORE !!!
She has ANOTHER fake currently listed on Etsy - a known fake serial number that's in Daria48's Fake Numbers Guide with fake overstamping lines AND THE WORD "SCRTCHES" MISSPELLED:
Authentic Vintage Coach Large Dark Green Leather Flap Patricia's Legacy Shoulder Bag

https://www.etsy.com/shop/VintageBaublesandBag

https://www.etsy.com/listing/187738...coach-large-dark-green?ref=shop_home_active_6

Etsy members, please report if you can. AND DON'T BUY FROM THIS SELLER AT EITHER OF THESE IDs
Thanks Hyacinth. :hugs: your wealth of information about not only Coach but also online scammers is astounding!
Thank god I did not buy it! I will report it.

Edit: reported both fake bags in Etsy. Hope Etsy will do something about it.
 
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Item: vintage Coach satchel
Item no: 181439345674
Seller: Toni1972sing
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Coach-...05&prg=10177&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=131215128013&rt=nc
Comment:This doesn't look good

No it doesn't. The serial number font is wrong, the "No" has the too-big o with the too-long underscore, and the J6D- prefix is TWO YEARS too early for a Beaumont Satchel, which wasn't introduced until the Fall 1998 catalog.

Also the tabs on the purse that the horsebit D-rings are mounted to aren't correctly centered on the seams - in fact in the last photo the right one looks like it's sewn on an inch higher than the left one - and the strap clips are too small
 
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