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Wondering about authenticity of these as well.
(Sorry, birthday shopping for sister)

COACH Small Black Leather Handbag
321242752499
millenniumtextile
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Small-Black-Leather-Handbag-/321242752499?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item4acb8f65f3
different color leather creed/zipper inside than outside bag, J

Coach leather handbag
181251420983
ealexanra44
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-leather-handbag-/181251420983?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2a336d3337
looks off, seller states she doesn't know if real or not

COACH BLACK SOHO LEATHER SATCHEL STYLE # H04S-9550
190954751202
brighton_village_boutique
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-BLACK-SOHO-LEATHER-SATCHEL-STYLE-H04S-9550-/190954751202?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2c75ca44e2
seller states bought at coach store but creed has bullseye -am I being nit picky?am I off here?

TIA
 
Wondering about authenticity of these as well.
(Sorry, birthday shopping for sister)

COACH Small Black Leather Handbag
321242752499
millenniumtextile
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Small...499?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item4acb8f65f3
different color leather creed/zipper inside than outside bag, J

Coach leather handbag
181251420983
ealexanra44
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-leath...983?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2a336d3337
looks off, seller states she doesn't know if real or not

COACH BLACK SOHO LEATHER SATCHEL STYLE # H04S-9550
190954751202
brighton_village_boutique
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-BLACK...202?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2c75ca44e2
seller states bought at coach store but creed has bullseye -am I being nit picky?am I off here?

TIA
#1: authentic but probably dyed. Seller should have disclosed that it's been polished or dyed because the treatment can damage your clothes.

#2: fake -- I think this is the first time I've seen a fake with this type of style number: 8A09 (I've added an image of the creed). This fake is a fairly "good" fake, in that the style (sort of) matches what it's trying to copy.


#3: Authentic. The Coach outlets ARE Coach stores and that's probably what she meant. It's not a MFF bag though.


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Wondering about authenticity of these as well.
(Sorry, birthday shopping for sister)


Coach leather handbag
181251420983
ealexanra44
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-leath...983?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2a336d3337
looks off, seller states she doesn't know if real or not
TIA

#2: fake -- I think this is the first time I've seen a fake with this type of style number: 8A09 (I've added an image of the creed). This fake is a fairly "good" fake, in that the style (sort of) matches what it's trying to copy.


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FOLLOWUP: DO NOT BUY FROM ealexanra44. In addition to the bag you asked about, she also sold 5 other fake Coach bags. (And she knows the difference. Every fake had an authenticity disclaimer.)

In addition, ealexanra44 and another buyer/seller, sis7733, also from the same part of Wisconsin have bought from and sold to each other.

This one as a similar phony serial number as the above. But instead of prefix T4H, this one has TH4.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-signa...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

$%28KGrHqFHJBUFJv6zvdC9BScsmw8k%28w%7E%7E60_57.JPG



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-handb...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Wrist...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-handb...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
 
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Good morning!
I won this bag on ebay and got it today.
I did not think there were any "pre-creed" fakes,
can anyone confirm that or say otherwise?
That is why I did not ask BEFORE...lol.
So the leather is lighter in weight than I expected it to be
I do have another one of these in a different color and it is heavier.
Also, the trim on the straps and around the edges ends in strange spots.
I can post more pics if anyone needs them, but let me know if you can
figure anything from the listing itself.
Thank you.

Ebay Auction #301008074053
Seller: firemanswife522
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Bonni...E2iOlj8%2BvBnLcRwrd64%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
 
At least that strap looks like a Coach replacement. And I agree, none of them are Bonnie Cashin designs, they're at least 10 years too late for that. They ARE neat-looking bags though.

The one thing that you should check on that one when you get it is to make sure the leather has been over-conditioned, it seems pretty shiny for a vintage leather.
Here is another twin clutch pre-serial with the thin double strap and dog leash clip.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Authenti...US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3cd7494d7d&_uhb=1
 
#1: authentic but probably dyed. Seller should have disclosed that it's been polished or dyed because the treatment can damage your clothes.

#2: fake -- I think this is the first time I've seen a fake with this type of style number: 8A09 (I've added an image of the creed). This fake is a fairly "good" fake, in that the style (sort of) matches what it's trying to copy.


#3: Authentic. The Coach outlets ARE Coach stores and that's probably what she meant. It's not a MFF bag though.


$%28KGrHqRHJEsFJmNijd1iBScsSzG%28Yg%7E%7E60_57.JPG


$T2eC16ZHJIUFHIDlfZUCBScrsBCNmw%7E%7E60_57.JPG
Thanks again, BB.
Glad you pulled some pictures because ealexanra44's listing "disappeared".
I was so ready to report! :censor:
RE: millenniumtextile's possibly dyed bag, is it true in general that the inside leather should match or at least be complimentary to the outside?
TYVM.
 
Here is another twin clutch pre-serial with the thin double strap and dog leash clip.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Authenti...US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3cd7494d7d&_uhb=1

It's possible that Coach may have made it that way for a short time. The few catalogs I have all show a single strap. Or it's possible there was an earlier version with slightly different details.

EDITED TO ADD:
The one in the above listing is much older than the olive one we talked about before and probably IS a Cashin-era bag, judging by the very old-style Coach tag inside. That style seems to have been discontinued some time before the mid-1970s according to the catalogs I've seen, and then re-introduced around 1984-85. There's no sign of it in the 1976, 1981, 1982 or 1983 catalogs, and it reappears by 1985. The tan one from Azuremerekat also may be Cashin-era, but the olive one had a full stamped creed and serial number and would have to have been from the mid-80s. The two earlier bags seem like they should have had the same length straps.

The questionable strap we talked about a few days ago from azuremerekat was also a LOT shorter - the seller listed it as a 13-inch drop, which no one except a hobbit would ever have have been able to wear cross-body, but the pics in the listing you just mentioned show a much longer strap that can be worn cross-body. I'd guess the drop on that one to be at least a 17 to 20-inch drop, which would fit with the size(s) available at Coach.

I can't even imagine that style being made with a 13-inch drop strap. Not only would that NOT have been the fashion so many years ago - going back to the 60s and 70s a "Shoulder bag" didn't mean a purse with a short drop that was carried under the arm and close to the body like it does today. It meant a bag with a very long strap, like what we'd call a Crossbody today, that hung straight down from one shoulder and fell usually from just below the waist to the lower hip. Hanging straight down was much more common than crossbody, which was thought of as more of a military look.

I also can't imagine a double-turnlock bag like that being carried right under the arm like most bags today (what I always think of as "armpit bags", sorry!) since it seems like the back turnlock would be constantly digging right into your ribs. So it's hard to see a double-turnlock bag with a 13-inch drop being practical, especially 30 or 40 years ago.
 
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FOLLOWUP: DO NOT BUY FROM ealexanra44. In addition to the bag you asked about, she also sold 5 other fake Coach bags. (And she knows the difference. Every fake had an authenticity disclaimer.)

In addition, ealexanra44 and another buyer/seller, sis7733, also from the same part of Wisconsin have bought from and sold to each other.

This one as a similar phony serial number as the above. But instead of prefix T4H, this one has TH4.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-signa...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

$%28KGrHqFHJBUFJv6zvdC9BScsmw8k%28w%7E%7E60_57.JPG



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-handb...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Wrist...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-handb...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Awesome sleuthing powers, BB!
Will stay far away from bad seller ealexanra44
Thanks!
 
#1: authentic but probably dyed. Seller should have disclosed that it's been polished or dyed because the treatment can damage your clothes.

#2: fake -- I think this is the first time I've seen a fake with this type of style number: 8A09 (I've added an image of the creed). This fake is a fairly "good" fake, in that the style (sort of) matches what it's trying to copy.


#3: Authentic. The Coach outlets ARE Coach stores and that's probably what she meant. It's not a MFF bag though.


$%28KGrHqRHJEsFJmNijd1iBScsSzG%28Yg%7E%7E60_57.JPG


$T2eC16ZHJIUFHIDlfZUCBScrsBCNmw%7E%7E60_57.JPG

Thanks again, BB.
Glad you pulled some pictures because ealexanra44's listing "disappeared".
I was so ready to report! :censor:
RE: millenniumtextile's possibly dyed bag, is it true in general that the inside leather should match or at least be complimentary to the outside?
TYVM.

I'm not BB, but in general, the inside patch and trim should usually match the outside. There may be a few exceptions but none come to mind at the moment. This style is NOT one of the exceptions - all the other black ones currently listed on Ebay have black creeds and trim.
 
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