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SEWDimples said:
Hi Hyacinth,

My I ask you a question about Taft handbag I purchased on *bay a few days ago?

The seller sent me a message that she did not ship the bag because she thought it was fake.

So I asked why did he/she think it was fake and here is the response:

"the leather looks great, nice and thick. The stamp also looks real but the buckle has no stamped logos"

Did Taft handbags have the Coach logo stamp back then? I believe the bag was made in 2001. I have several other style bags from 1996 and 1998 and they do not have the stamped logo.

I've attached the link again.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/coach-purse...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


Let me know what you think. I really want this bag in this color.

Thank you in advance for your time.
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I'm not Hyacinth, but generally a bag is more likely to be fake if the hardware is stamped with a logo, especially older styles. I don't see any other authentic Tafts on ebay that have a logo on the hardware. Why don't you direct your seller to Hyacinth's response authenticating the bag?
 
#6,797
Hyacinth said:
The correct name is Barclay Tote, or search for style 9896. They show up fairly often on Ebay.

There are two versions, the one in the listing is the older one from the early 1990s and has what Coach called a Springlock. The locks occasionally broke so it's always important to ask a seller if the lock's working correctly, since I don't know if Coach still has replacements available.

A newer version with a standard Coach turnlock came out a few years later, still called a Barclay Tote but with a style number of 9096. You may want to look for both numbers. A photo of that version is below.
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Thanks Hyancinth. What colours do they come in?
 
#6,798
noshoepolish said:
You can search for Barclay Brief or Barclay Briefcase - there was another flap brief called Barclay so you may get that one in your search too. This is a nice heavy duty bag that wears well. Make sure you get it authenticated. On this style bag you want to watch for water/liquid marks and stains. Also they tend to have been dyed or shoe polished by their owners so make sure you ask the seller.

I think silver coach sells the spring locks.
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Thanks noshoepolish. It's always useful to know specifics to look for and ask about. I'll try to be patient and wait for 'the right' one to become available!
 
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SEWDimples said:
Hi Hyacinth,

My I ask you a question about Taft handbag I purchased on *bay a few days ago?

The seller sent me a message that she did not ship the bag because she thought it was fake.

So I asked why did he/she think it was fake and here is the response:

"the leather looks great, nice and thick. The stamp also looks real but the buckle has no stamped logos"

Did Taft handbags have the Coach logo stamp back then? I believe the bag was made in 2001. I have several other style bags from 1996 and 1998 and they do not have the stamped logo.

I've attached the link again.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/coach-purse-/251352074597?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3a85c04965&nma=true&si=NejWQFZ%252F4bnG2vIFS9i2XHUNCbI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


Let me know what you think. I really want this bag in this color.

Thank you in advance for your time.
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Absolutely NOT. Taft Bags - in fact all of Coach's "classic" and vintage styles from the 70s, 80s, and 90s, should NEVER have the name stamped on the buckle or any other hardware. The only exceptions are the Sonoma pebbled leather styles that use a mini version of the Coach hangtag in brass as a zipper pull.

Coach didn't start stamping some buckles until toward the end of the 1990s and it was usually just on a limited group of newer styles mostly with nickle hardware. Even on modern bags, Coach doesn't slap their name on every piece of metal on the bag, no matter WHAT those useless online "authenticity guides" claim. The more times the hardware is stamped, the better chance it is that the bag is fake. ANY Guide that claims you can tell a genuine Coach because the name is stamped on the hardware, OR because it has YKK zippers, is completely useless and a pile of misinformation and just plain LIES.

Tell your seller you want the bag and you'll take your chances. Also refer her to this post, along with my suggestion that she throw any links to any "guides" with similar information into the Recycle Bin, and read a set of Guides that's actually correct. I'd suggest starting with the ones from Salearea on "Authenticity Guides - Facts and Myths" and "The YKK Zipper Myth". But all the Salearea Guides are accurate, and so is the Daria48 Fake Serial Numbers list. These are the only Guides that I know for sure are accurate, because I did the research.

SALEAREA GUIDES:

http://search.reviews.ebay.com/memb...&pr=salearea&uaid=41262657&uan=salearea&uqt=g

YKK Zippers:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-and-the-YKK-Zipper-Myth-the-Basic-Facts-/10000000040073710/g.html

Authenticity Guides:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Authenticity-Guides-Facts-and-Myths-/10000000062607882/g.html

DARIA'S GUIDE:

http://www.ebay.com/gds/fake-serial-numbers-and-counterfeit-coach-bags/10000000002744619/g.html
 
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Hyacinth said:
Absolutely NOT. Taft Bags - in fact all of Coach's "classic" and vintage styles from the 70s, 80s, and 90s, should NEVER have the name stamped on the buckle or any other hardware. The only exceptions are the Sonoma pebbled leather styles that use a mini version of the Coach hangtag in brass as a zipper pull.

Coach didn't start stamping some buckles until toward the end of the 1990s and it was usually just on a limited group of newer styles mostly with nickle hardware. Even on modern bags, Coach doesn't slap their name on every piece of metal on the bag, no matter WHAT those useless online "authenticity guides" claim. The more times the hardware is stamped, the better chance it is that the bag is fake. ANY Guide that claims you can tell a genuine Coach because the name is stamped on the hardware, OR because it has YKK zippers, is completely uselaee and a pile os misinformation and just plain LIES.

Tell your seller you want the bag and you'll take your chances. Also refer her to this post, along with my suggestion that she throw any links to any "guides" with similar information into the Recycle Bin, and read a set of Guides that's actually correct. I'd suggest starting with the ones on "Authenticity Guides - Facts and Myths" and "The YKK Zipper Myth". But all the Salearea Guides are accurate, and so is the Daria48 Fake Serial Numbers list. These are the only Guides that I know for sure are accurate, because I did the research.

SALEAREA GUIDES:

http://search.reviews.ebay.com/memb...&pr=salearea&uaid=41262657&uan=salearea&uqt=g

YKK Zippers:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-and-the-YKK-Zipper-Myth-the-Basic-Facts-/10000000040073710/g.html

Authenticity Guides:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Authenticity-Guides-Facts-and-Myths-/10000000062607882/g.html

DARIA'S GUIDE:

http://www.ebay.com/gds/fake-serial-numbers-and-counterfeit-coach-bags/10000000002744619/g.html
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Thank you so much Hyacinth. I was really hoping you were going to say this.

I want this bag and I'm going to ask her to send it.

Thanks for your time and expertise. :D

whateve said:
I'm not Hyacinth, but generally a bag is more likely to be fake if the hardware is stamped with a logo, especially older styles. I don't see any other authentic Tafts on ebay that have a logo on the hardware. Why don't you direct your seller to Hyacinth's response authenticating the bag?
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Thanks whateve. I appreciate your feedback as well and had the same feeling.

You guys are the best. :urock:
 
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whateve said:
To report this fake, click on "see original listing." Then on the right side of the screen, just above the description is a "Report item" button. When you click on it, it will give you several options. For category, pick "Copyright and Trademark," then "counterfeit Item or authenticity disclaimer," then "counterfeit, fake or replica items." In the description section, you can say serial number not in correct format, or creed says made in US and of glove tanned leather, neither of which are true, or pattern mismatched at seams. You have to be creative to fit it in the limited number of characters they allow.
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Thank you Whateve! Great info. It really bugs me when a seller claimes that they bought the bag at a specific coach store and the bag is an obvious Foach!:rant:
 
#6,806
ElizabethB said:
Listing: Coach ~ Vintage ~ Apple Green Leather Ergo Hobo Shoulder Bag #9033 ~ Nice~
Seller: thecoachexpress
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/390677161184?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Comments: Authentic? ....and if so, what was the color? Don't believe I've seen an Ergo 9033 in this color before.

Thanks!:wondering
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I haven't seen a bright green like that before either "Leaf" is the only green I can find and it's a lot more muted. But not all colors made it into the catalogs.
 
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Hyacinth said:
I haven't seen a bright green like that before either "Leaf" is the only green I can find and it's a lot more muted. But not all colors made it into the catalogs.
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I'm wondering if it's been redyed, the wear around the corners and other areas looks more like Leaf underneath, the top zipper is awfully light to go with that bright green, and the inside of the bag also looks more like Leaf. All the "Leaf" pics look similar to the one below.
 

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