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Originally Posted by Hyacinth 
And here's another L6C- with some of the same questions as the white one - questionable, or just mistakes made at the plant?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-L6C-99...item33755bbbf8
It's really hard to use odd stitching on older bags as an authenticity proof, there was just too much variation. And even with the 3 bags mentioned in the posts that all apparently cam out of the same plant within a month or two of each other, there are differences.
Without having a bag that's absolutely certain to be genuine to use for comparison, and without knowing with absolute certainty that Coach did not make any production changes at that plant within that month (including hiring people who were still learning their jobs) it's impossible to ever be sure that those small differences mean there's a problem. There's a lot more precision found in the recent bags than could ever be found in the older ones.
Authentication older bags is almost as much guesswork as it is experience - not just knowing what Coach actually did, but making educated guesses about what they MIGHT have done. And the longer you do it, the more you keep being reminded that "the one consistent thing about Coach is its inconsistency".
And here's another L6C- with some of the same questions as the white one - questionable, or just mistakes made at the plant?http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-L6C-99...item33755bbbf8
Thank you Hyancinth, you are incredibly helpful! I don't know how you do it.
I won't post any scathing feedback on the seller's profileI am glad I asked for help here first. When I saw that seam/stitching in the strap I thought for sure it was a fake, so thanks for letting me know that it's inconclusive.
It's really hard to use odd stitching on older bags as an authenticity proof, there was just too much variation. And even with the 3 bags mentioned in the posts that all apparently cam out of the same plant within a month or two of each other, there are differences.
Without having a bag that's absolutely certain to be genuine to use for comparison, and without knowing with absolute certainty that Coach did not make any production changes at that plant within that month (including hiring people who were still learning their jobs) it's impossible to ever be sure that those small differences mean there's a problem. There's a lot more precision found in the recent bags than could ever be found in the older ones.
Authentication older bags is almost as much guesswork as it is experience - not just knowing what Coach actually did, but making educated guesses about what they MIGHT have done. And the longer you do it, the more you keep being reminded that "the one consistent thing about Coach is its inconsistency".
Originally Posted by ZSP
Thank you so much for all the hard work...I appreciate each and every one of you. Below is my original post about the Madison Pierre Handbag. But, I have one more question about the age, year it was made, etc. The Creed reads...L4E-4406
I understand the L signifies December and the E as Italy...is the "4" the year 2004, 1994...???
Thanks so much.
Asking your help once again...
Item: Madison Pierre Handbag
Listing # 261003407909
Seller: texasbaglady2
Listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-VINTAG...#ht_6113wt_952
Comments: In an email, the seller says this bag has tiny screws holding the hardware on the bag. Thanks for your help.
Originally Posted by Hyacinth
Genuine. And on the Madisons the squared rings holding the strap ends WERE fastened with tiny screws.
Thank you so much. I'm going to go for it!
Thank you so much for all the hard work...I appreciate each and every one of you. Below is my original post about the Madison Pierre Handbag. But, I have one more question about the age, year it was made, etc. The Creed reads...L4E-4406
I understand the L signifies December and the E as Italy...is the "4" the year 2004, 1994...???
Thanks so much.
Asking your help once again...
Item: Madison Pierre Handbag
Listing # 261003407909
Seller: texasbaglady2
Listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-VINTAG...#ht_6113wt_952
Comments: In an email, the seller says this bag has tiny screws holding the hardware on the bag. Thanks for your help.
Originally Posted by Hyacinth
Genuine. And on the Madisons the squared rings holding the strap ends WERE fastened with tiny screws.
Thank you so much. I'm going to go for it!
I know...and the long/short story is that she's friends with my boss and when I emailed her questioning the authenticity she emailed MY boss and wanted to know who did I think I was questioning her obviously authentic bag.....LOL
Sorry about that. I wasn't sure how to post a pic from my phone. Is this what you need?
Sorry about that. I wasn't sure how to post a pic from my phone. Is this what you need?
Thanks!
There aren't any pictures of that style in my files, but the details look ok. More opinions are welcome.
Please check the Salearea Guides posted at Ebay for a guide on how to find the production information from a serial number.:
http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/salearea_W0QQcpnameZmembersQQprZsaleareaQQuqtZg
It's authentic.
The bag is from 2002 so you won't find a 10-year old bag on the Coach site and there probably aren't a lot of them on ebay.
It's authentic.
There are fakes of that style and in many cases, the fakes have a valid (or semi-valid) serial number. But no worries with this one!
Sorry about that. I wasn't sure how to post a pic from my phone. Is this what you need?
I agree that it looks fine.
Coach Wine Red Leather Shoulder Saddle Crossbody Bag Nipple Flap
Seller:678jingwei
Item number: 320898838045
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Wine-...045?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item4ab70fae1d
I know that there are not enough pics to authenticate this bag, and I’m not actually interested in bidding on it, but I have a couple of questions.
When I saw this bag I thought it was a small hippie but the vendor lists the serial number as: N2-JOD-9135 and I know that any coach with a 3-part number is a fake. But then it occurred to me that it may actually be “No JOD-9135” and the seller misread it, what do you think?
My other question is “Do they really call it a “nipple flap”?!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Seller:678jingwei
Item number: 320898838045
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Wine-...045?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item4ab70fae1d
I know that there are not enough pics to authenticate this bag, and I’m not actually interested in bidding on it, but I have a couple of questions.
When I saw this bag I thought it was a small hippie but the vendor lists the serial number as: N2-JOD-9135 and I know that any coach with a 3-part number is a fake. But then it occurred to me that it may actually be “No JOD-9135” and the seller misread it, what do you think?
My other question is “Do they really call it a “nipple flap”?!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I've been seeing several listings with No. copied (incorrectly) as either N2 or N9. They're misreading the underscore as part of a number.
As for authenticity, wait for someone who knows better than I.
The creed and serial look almost worn away, and English is obviously not the seller's first language. So it's probably a safe bet that she read "No" as "N2" and "Hippie" as "Nipple".
As we've said before, never expect a seller to copy a serial number correctly. And the two incorrect letters in the names are very easy for someone unfamilar with the European alphabet to get confused, she probably has no idea what a hippie actually is.
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