AUTHENTICATE This COACH

[DemRam]

Hi All,

This is a goodwill find. I am 99.9% certain it's authentic just want to be 100%. Also looking for proper name and age range. Thank You

Any and all information is greatly appreciated!! Thank You
Have A Great Night!!
Bobbi

If it's 13x7 inches it's a Slim Satchel Compact, although it may have been called a Handle Clutch during the earlier part of its production, style number 9425 was called by both names. DemRam might know. It's probably from between the mid-70s to about 1987.

My measurements may be off, but I have the following:

Slim Satchel Standard (13 x 9 x 3) style number 9430.

Slim Satchel Compact ( 12 x 7 x 2) style number 9425.

Edited: I have one picture where the larger one IS called a Handle Clutch. Unfortunately, I don't know what year the photo is from.

 

[BPerry5726]

If it's 13x7 inches it's a Slim Satchel Compact, although it may have been called a Handle Clutch during the earlier part of its production, style number 9425 was called by both names. DemRam might know. It's probably from between the mid-70s to about 1987.

Thank YOU Hyacinth!!! I really appreciate your time and knowledge. I am sorry for not listing the measurements because I know it's most helpful in identifying specific bags. Those are the exact measurements and 2" deep.
Have A Great Night!
Bobbi

 

[BPerry5726]

My measurements may be off, but I have the following:

Slim Satchel Standard (13 x 9 x 3) style number 9430.

Slim Satchel Compact ( 12 x 7 x 2) style number 9425.

PERFECT!! Thank YOU DemRam. Mine is the compact model. I appreciate your time and knowledge!!
Have A Great Night!
Bobbi

 

[Hyacinth]

Originally Posted by Hyacinth Unfortunately NO. Coach employees have NO experience in telling real from fake, and even less with bags that are more than a year old. In fact they are the last resource I would ever recommend for authentication, except for suggesting that whatever they tell you, the exact opposite is probably the truth. Sorry to be so negative, but we've seen that situation come up a hundred times, and 98 of the times the employee has been completely wrong. The outlet store employees are even LESS experienced and half of them weren't even born when that bag was supposedly made.

There's a big difference between "knowing" something because you sell it and knowing it because you study, analyze and discuss it 10 or 12 hours a day with other experts. The ONLY source employees have is a very limited computer system that only lists the style numbers of the bags made in about the last 10 years - and nowhere near all of those either.

In fact, Coach's legal "experts" are just as clueless. (BTW, I checked the bag when photos were still available online and it's completely genuine):
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2011/0...ales-crackdown

In fact right now on Ebay's Shoes & Purses forum there's a post about a poster gravelrd825 who claims to be a former Coach employee who not only repeatedly contacted and harrassed the seller of a GENUINE bag, but who even reported it to Ebay as fake. The post will probably get gutted or removed but here's the link. Remember some posts may already be missing:
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/topic/Sho...-Is/5200016245

Thank you for your informative replies, Hyacinth. I really appreciate the time you spent educating me about Coach, in general, this bag specifically. I appreciate the fact that you found a picture of what it is supposed to be/could be. If you ever run across a Chauncey, you'll have to let me know. I was genuinely surprised that no other opinions were put forth, given the multiple regular participants on this forum. But I imagine there are specific "eras" where some items are more familiar than others.

Keep up the good work. Looks like this forum has helped out a lot of people.

You're welcome, and thanks for the kind words and encouragement.

 

[x UHOH X]

Good evening, ladies.

I bought this bag already - even if it's not authentic, it's good leather and my young niece will like it...but...could you please authenticate/name/date it?

Thank you!

 

[DemRam]

Good evening, ladies.

I bought this bag already - even if it's not authentic, it's good leather and my young niece will like it...but...could you please authenticate/name/date it?

Thank you!

Where did I ever get this name? I have style 9167 listed as the "Legacy Top of Counter Compartment". Measurements listed as 8 x 5 x 3.

Wait for Hyacinth. I don't even REMEMBER that bag and I don't have a picture!

 

[Trajik]

Actually it's neither since it's fake. The Coach stamp on the front is fake and so is the fake creed and the fake serial number inside. I hope you didn't buy it, it's junk.

And there are other problems as well. That serial number is also in my list of fake Coach serial numbers, you might want to read and bookmark the page - 3 posts:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-37.html#post18503288

Thank you! No, I didn't buy it. I have learned not to buy anything unless I am 100% positive. And when I am not, I come here
Should I report the listing?

 

[Hyacinth]

Originally Posted by BPerry5726 Hi All,

This is a goodwill find. I am 99.9% certain it's authentic just want to be 100%. Also looking for proper name and age range. Thank You

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...6/IMG_9199.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...6/IMG_9193.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...6/IMG_9189.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...6/IMG_9187.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...6/IMG_9186.jpg

Any and all information is greatly appreciated!! Thank You
Have A Great Night!!
Bobbi



Originally Posted by Hyacinth If it's 13x7 inches it's a Slim Satchel Compact, although it may have been called a Handle Clutch during the earlier part of its production, style number 9425 was called by both names. DemRam might know. It's probably from between the mid-70s to about 1987.

My measurements may be off, but I have the following:

Slim Satchel Standard (13 x 9 x 3) style number 9430.

Slim Satchel Compact ( 12 x 7 x 2) style number 9425.

Edited: I have one picture where the larger one IS called a Handle Clutch. Unfortunately, I don't know what year the photo is from.

Your measurements may be right, it probably depended on who at Coach did the measuring. The 1985 catalog gives the same length for both but I've seen variations in measurements before. The only pic I have for it under the name Handle Clutch is this one marked as from 1975. I just checked the 1983 catalog and they say 12 inches for the length instead of 13. It's probably one of those "toss a coin" situations.

 

[Hyacinth]

Originally Posted by Hyacinth Actually it's neither since it's fake. The Coach stamp on the front is fake and so is the fake creed and the fake serial number inside. I hope you didn't buy it, it's junk.

And there are other problems as well. That serial number is also in my list of fake Coach serial numbers, you might want to read and bookmark the page - 3 posts:
answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!!

Thank you! No, I didn't buy it. I have learned not to buy anything unless I am 100% positive. And when I am not, I come here
Should I report the listing?

Yes please - you can report it as Fake style, name stamp, creed and serial#

 

[Hyacinth]

Originally Posted by x UHOH X Good evening, ladies.

I bought this bag already - even if it's not authentic, it's good leather and my young niece will like it...but...could you please authenticate/name/date it?

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ket_60760_.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ket_60759_.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ket_60761_.jpg

Thank you!

Where did I ever get this name? I have style 9167 listed as the "Legacy Top of Counter Compartment". Measurements listed as 8 x 5 x 3.

Wait for Hyacinth. I don't even REMEMBER that bag and I don't have a picture!

OKG, that's hysterical! And guess what - I have the same name!

I DO have a picture though, it's from the Wayback so it's a copy of Coach's actual web page. I'll have to check a few catalogs and see if I can find it with a different name, looks like it's from between about 1999 and 2002.

(ETA - this is frustrating, I can find all the numbers before & after it but I can't find that one. It was probably supposed to be something like a Legacy Copartment Top Zip and looks almost identical to 9164 Legacy East-West Compartment Zip. I wonder if Coach just made a mistake? I added a few pics of 9164.)

 

[lmn2222]

I will request a close up of the creed if in fact this is a valid style number. The owner emailed the numbers from the creed: C0773-F10900 but I can't find any information on style #10900. Thanks in advance for any advice!

 

[x UHOH X]

Originally Posted by x UHOH X Good evening, ladies.

I bought this bag already - even if it's not authentic, it's good leather and my young niece will like it...but...could you please authenticate/name/date it?

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ket_60760_.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ket_60759_.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ket_60761_.jpg

Thank you!



OKG, that's hysterical! And guess what - I have the same name!

I DO have a picture though, it's from the Wayback so it's a copy of Coach's actual web page. I'll have to check a few catalogs and see if I can find it with a different name, looks like it's from between about 1999 and 2002.

(ETA - this is frustrating, I can find all the numbers before & after it but I can't find that one. It was probably supposed to be something like a Legacy Copartment Top Zip and looks almost identical to 9164 Legacy East-West Compartment Zip. I wonder if Coach just made a mistake? I added a few pics of 9164.)

The Compartment Zip looks like it has higher sides (i.e. the zipper is lower between the two sides.) It also only has a single compartment with a small zipper pocket. The pic you have of the Counter Top is exactly it! Is that really an odd name? (I personally think it is, but what do I know!?) So....yes, it's authentic? Just crazy? It's very clean; doesn't even look like it was used.

 

[Hyacinth]

I will request a close up of the creed if in fact this is a valid style number. The owner emailed the numbers from the creed: C0773-F10900 but I can't find any information on style #10900. Thanks in advance for any advice!

Please don't assume that because you "can't find any information" - I'm assuming from Google - that something might be fake! Google should NEVER be used in authenticating Coach items, and neither should any kind of online "authenticity guides". Google is a search engine, not the Encyclopedia Brittanica, and older Coaches especially Made-For-Factory-Stores (MFF) items often don't show up in internet searches.

Try searching Ebay, NOT Google. There's an almost identical bag listed by an Ebay seller.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Coach-Tote-Bag-/160636834574?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2566b3930e
We'd still need to see the creed on yours but I don't see any problems that would make me thing it might be fake.

 

[Hyacinth]

The Compartment Zip looks like it has higher sides (i.e. the zipper is lower between the two sides.) It also only has a single compartment with a small zipper pocket. The pic you have of the Counter Top is exactly it! Is that really an odd name? (I personally think it is, but what do I know!?) So....yes, it's authentic? Just crazy? It's very clean; doesn't even look like it was used.

It looks authentic to me. I think maybe someone putting the website page together either just made a mistake, or someone at Coach misunderstood someone else's abbreviations or handwriting.

 

[BeenBurned]

I will request a close up of the creed if in fact this is a valid style number. The owner emailed the numbers from the creed: C0773-F10900 but I can't find any information on style #10900. Thanks in advance for any advice!

Please don't assume that because you "can't find any information" - I'm assuming from Google - that something might be fake! Google should NEVER be used in authenticating Coach items, and neither should any kind of online "authenticity guides". Google is a search engine, not the Encyclopedia Brittanica, and older Coaches especially Made-For-Factory-Stores (MFF) items often don't show up in internet searches.

Try searching Ebay, NOT Google. There's an almost identical bag listed by an Ebay seller.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Coach-Tote-Bag-/160636834574?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2566b3930e
We'd still need to see the creed on yours but I don't see any problems that would make me thing it might be fake.

I don't see any problems with that picture either but I too want to see the creed.