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Originally Posted by Whipmaster http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Item: COACH Navy/Chocolate Signature BOOK/LUNCH Purse
Seller: sailingkylake
Item ID:
250725073348
Location: EBay

Ladies, can you let me know if you see any red flags with this one, because I've been looking for 2 days and can't find a darn thing wrong. Also in one of the photos I did notice a tiny glimpse of the YKK zipper.

This is completely NOT what I wanted for fall, but this is my purse soul mate! I would like to start bidding, and since I have not bought one purse in the last 10 days of combing EBAY my bank account is at the full mercy of this one....

Fake or Take?

The bag is fine.

But please lose the "YKK zipper" notion! Not all Coach bags have YKK zippers and existence of a YKK zipper doesn't mean the bag is authentic.

Amen to that! A huge number of the "Authenticity Guides" you find on the Internet including at Ebay and at other purse forums are completely useless and even dangerous to depend on. Their information is incomplete, years and sometimes a decade out of date, and often just plain WRONG. The "YKK myth" is a perfect example. Coach has used at least 5 different brands of zippers on their bags and accessories and a YKK stamp means nothing - fakes manufacturers can buy real YKK zippers as easily as they can buy a bowl of noodles, and they can buy fake YKK-stamped zippers just as easily. Think about it - how hard is it to copy a zipper? Unfortunately none of the geniuses who Copy & Paste someone else's "Guide" and slaps their own name on it ever bother to do any actual research or to even think something through logically.

Do yourself a favor and start going through the "Answers To Authenticity Questions" thread just a step away from this one. The older posts may not have up-to-date information but the newer ones can teach a lot to anyone who takes the time to read them.

And remember - there is NO one single detail, or even two or three, that can ever PROVE a bag or other Coach item is genuine. There are no shortcuts, and there are almost no "Rules" that don't have exceptions.
 
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I smell trouble! & Good Morning Sue !


Originally Posted by sueb Hi, I'm a seller on Ebay as well. I checked out your link and I'm just a little concerned that this seller already has a store and has a feedback score of what was it 12? Although his feedback is 100% from the 12 who gave him feedback, it still seems fishy. It is my opinion that this seller changed his/her name as if to start over being he already has established a store. I could be wrong. Good luck!
Sue

This seller has TONS of product for having 12 feedback, but in all fairness, I will give one possibility for it. Because of economic downturns, maybe they had a retail store and had to close it. Online is such an easy way to run a business...

Final answer... I wouldn't be buying anything from that seller for the reasons you mentioned, the feedback, and.... I don't like copied photos, or the original companies AD photos. I ask all my sellers two questions now, no matter what pictures they have posted

"Is the bag in the photos a model bag, or the bag we are bidding for?"
" Can you offer pictures of the actual bag you are selling?" (if they have AD photos of brand new bags)

I have also found it extremely helpful to add notes to each item I'm watching, your personal notes show up in the items box... very nice tool.

OK, I'll shut it now.... lol

If the seller had a retail B&M store, how would he get new genuine Coach bags for his inventory? Coach does not sell to independent owners of small stores, and they wouldn't allow the seller to use Coach's photos. Coach doesn't wholesale, and in the US at least only sells to their major retail distributors like Macy's, Dillard's, etc.

A new seller with only stolen (and illegal!) stock photos is a seller I'd recommend staying far away from, I don't care what kind of feedback they have. A large percentage of Coach buyers on Ebay wouldn't know a counterfeit if it flew past their noses with the word "FAKE" flashing across it in neon letters, and many wouldn't care as long as it said "Coach" on it and they could buy it cheap.

No offense meant to the members from Cali, but I think BeenBurned would agree with me that Southern California has one of the highest percentages of Ebay fakes sellers of any area in the US. New seller, only a single stolen photo per listing and a SoCal location? Sorry, that's three red flags in a row.
 
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No offense meant to the members from Cali, but I think BeenBurned would agree with me that Southern California has one of the highest percentages of Ebay fakes sellers of any area in the US. New seller, only a single stolen photo per listing and a SoCal location? Sorry, that's three red flags in a row.
BB completely agrees with Hyacinth and I recommended against the seller in my earlier post: http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-577470-554.html#post17134221

Hi, I'm a seller on Ebay as well. I checked out your link and I'm just a little concerned that this seller already has a store and has a feedback score of what was it 12? Although his feedback is 100% from the 12 who gave him feedback, it still seems fishy. It is my opinion that this seller changed his/her name as if to start over being he already has established a store. I could be wrong. Good luck!
Sue
IMO, it's probably more likely that the seller has (or had) another ID and this is the new selling ID.
 
Thanks for your help and the laugh, Hyacinth. This "old dog"just spent a long time learning how to make a link...Yippeee! so I am going to give you links to the 3 purses , the first is the small one (she said she bought this one at the Edinburg Outlet store) I was trying to identify 1) http://s1124.photobucket.com/albums/l571/gspecht8/coach1/ 2) this one I think is a Legacy Satchel in the vintage grey leather http://s1124.photobucket.com/albums/l571/gspecht8/Coach2/ 3) I think this one is the small Sabrina, it's a beautiful golden yellow. http://s1124.photobucket.com/albums/l571/gspecht8/Coach2/ Yours,....or your cohorts, opinions are valued. I hope the links will work.
 
The bags in question are not on an auction site.

Item Name Unknown, but would love to know!

Link: https://cid-f4d9071986a88a54.skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?page=play&resid=F4D9071986A88A54!241&authkey=2oZ0oYlbwBw%24

Then attach any photos: All photo's are in link.

Thanks for your help!
Sue

They both seem ok. The first one style 4156 is a Soho Belted Pouch, and the second 7586 isn't in my files but the number is in a sequence of Hamptons Leather Hobos and Carryalls so my guess would be a Hamptons Carryall of some kind.
 
They both seem ok. The first one style 4156 is a Soho Belted Pouch, and the second 7586 isn't in my files but the number is in a sequence of Hamptons Leather Hobos and Carryalls so my guess would be a Hamptons Carryall of some kind.


Thanks for your quick response. Is there a manual on the different styles with #'s. If so, how can I obtain one? Thanks again,
Sue
 
Thanks for your help and the laugh, Hyacinth. This "old dog"just spent a long time learning how to make a link...Yippeee! so I am going to give you links to the 3 purses , the first is the small one (she said she bought this one at the Edinburg Outlet store) I was trying to identify 1) http://s1124.photobucket.com/albums/l571/gspecht8/coach1/ 2) this one I think is a Legacy Satchel in the vintage grey leather http://s1124.photobucket.com/albums/l571/gspecht8/Coach2/ 3) I think this one is the small Sabrina, it's a beautiful golden yellow. http://s1124.photobucket.com/albums/l571/gspecht8/Coach2/ Yours,....or your cohorts, opinions are valued. I hope the links will work.

Yep, figuring out Photobucket and its links takes a lot of experimentation. :D

The first one is one of the MFF Optics but that's all I can tell you. Maybe someone else can give a name to the style, East-West Duffle or Pleated Duffle is the best guess I can come up with.

As for the gray Legacy Leather Medium Shoulder Flap 12654 and and the yellow Sabrina (can you post the serial number, the last 2 digits aren't clear?), I'll let the experts in the newer styles take a look at them since the recent bags aren't my specialty and I don't have any examples or photos to refer to. BTW, I corrected the link for the gray one:
http://s1124.photobucket.com/albums/l571/gspecht8/Coach3/

The Legacy Flap seems ok but Sabrinas are widely faked and should be looked at by someone who knows what to look for.
 
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Thanks for your quick response. Is there a manual on the different styles with #'s. If so, how can I obtain one? Thanks again,
Sue

No, there really aren't any resources for older names and style numbers. I've collected as many old catalogs as I could find and saved photos and style numbers from Ebay listings for a long time.
 
Thanks for your help and the laugh, Hyacinth. This "old dog"just spent a long time learning how to make a link...Yippeee! so I am going to give you links to the 3 purses , the first is the small one (she said she bought this one at the Edinburg Outlet store) I was trying to identify 1) http://s1124.photobucket.com/albums/l571/gspecht8/coach1/ 2) this one I think is a Legacy Satchel in the vintage grey leather http://s1124.photobucket.com/albums/l571/gspecht8/Coach2/ 3) I think this one is the small Sabrina, it's a beautiful golden yellow. http://s1124.photobucket.com/albums/l571/gspecht8/Coach2/ Yours,....or your cohorts, opinions are valued. I hope the links will work.

Yep, figuring out Photobucket and its links takes a lot of experimentation. :D

The first one is one of the MFF Optics but that's all I can tell you. Maybe someone else can give a name to the style, East-West Duffle or Pleated Duffle is the best guess I can come up with.

As for the gray Legacy Leather Medium Shoulder Flap 12654 and and the yellow Sabrina (can you post the serial number, the last 2 digits aren't clear?), I'll let the experts in the newer styles take a look at them since the recent bags aren't my specialty and I don't have any examples or photos to refer to. BTW, I corrected the link for the gray one:
http://s1124.photobucket.com/albums/l571/gspecht8/Coach3/

The Legacy Flap seems ok but Sabrinas are widely faked and should be looked at by someone who knows what to look for.
I don't see problems with any of them but as Hyacinth said, the Sabrinas are "well-faked."

Regarding your Sabrina, if possible, can you get a clear picture (macro/flower setting) of the plaque on the front and the hardware holding the handles onto the bag?

Is there just one hangtag? There should be 3 different sized hangtags; one brass and 2 leather.
 
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